Best Albums of 1986, Ranked

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Hey y'all, welcome to Past Times at 80s High. Gonna do another uh a fan favorite today. We're gonna go back to our decade series where we're gonna do our top 10 favorite albums from 1986. Amazing year. Uh before we do, I just wanted to give a shout out to we're getting some new listeners out there, and we can't thank you enough for all the downloads. But we have some new people. We got one from Houston, Texas, Castro Valley, California, someone from Tennessee out there. Thank you so much. And a ton of people were noticing from the UK. So that's exciting, you know. That's Australia, dumbass. Which we also have some listeners from Australia from down under, too. That's amazing. But of course, uh today, Brother Mark has the honors. Uh, first, let me introduce everyone as always. Brother Mark, how are you? I'm doing great. Lovely, dongo. Hey, how you doing? Good man. And Kevin? Feeling good, Billy Ray. Yeah, looking good, Lewis. And I am AJ, of course. Uh, as always, we start off with a quick news story at the beginning of these. So, Mark, off to you to get her rolling.

Plug your ears if this is gonna be too painful for you. It's gonna be hard to talk about. We're talking about the 1986 World Series. And they did it in the uh the ALCS, they came back with one strike away. And then this happened in game six. The Red Sox took a 5-3 lead on a Dave Henderson Homer, and then a double from uh Wade Boggs. They had the bases loaded, Greenwell struck out. We go to the bottom of the tenth inning. I think his name was Willie Bachman, fly it out to Jim Rice, and then uh Kevin Mitchell line deep, but Dave Henderson caught the ball. One strike away. Oh, there goes Big Al with the doggone champagne bottle, opens it up. There's Wilkham Boyd sitting in the dugout with a champagne bottle. They put up congratulations, world champions, Boston Red Sox, and Bruce Hurst was named the series MVP. Well, okay. Was it uh oh yeah, Gary Carter, the catcher, comes up, a soft little single. After that, it was uh Kevin Mitchell, he singled, it was two outs, and then you get a single, another single, and then another single. So there's a run-in, and Calvin Sheraldi was pitching, and so they brought in uh Bob Stanley and Mookie. I mean, uh yeah, Mookie Wilson comes up and he ends up there was a wild pitch from Bob Stanley, which brought the tie and run in, and then there's a ground ball to Buckner, and it gets through the it gets through his line.

It's not Buckner's fault, though. His fault. He should have had he should have had it, but I understand the game was tied at that point. Because he had been taken out for defensive purposes in the past. And and yeah, and Dave Stapleton was coming in. Right, they left him in just because, just because, but Oh, it was F. But that wasn't I mean, that wasn't it. That was games that brought in the run. But I mean it wasn't everyone says Buckner, but he he took a bad rap. No, he took a bad rap. But they had another game after.

Yeah, and they had a three-nothing lead in that game. Yeah, Bruce Hurst was pitching because they had the rain out. Heartbreaking. Yeah, and uh and then he got hit his shoulder got sore. They had McNamara came and took him out. That was the curse.

But that was the moment. Yeah, everybody remembered the almost you know, because it was what I mean, how many years was it as that at that point?

That was 68 years. Ironically, they reversed that number in 86 years. So, I mean, it was almost I almost think the curse went until 2000 because all of a sudden they've won four World Series and you know, up through 28 years.

Up until that point, the Patriots made it into the Super Bowl, which they shouldn't have. I mean, they they squished the fish, and that was awesome. It was all psyched, and then they got smoked by the Bears. Oh, that was brilliant. Anyone was gonna the Bears were awesome that year. You know, they were doing like, you know, the Super Bowl shuffle stuff.

Well they call me sweetness, and I'm gonna go.

But anyway, we won a lot of Super Bowls after that. I mean, and uh World Series. So that's that's what I'm going with. I don't want to talk about it.

Then we went into the glorious times. Yes. I mean, we had 20 years of pure bliss, pure love.

Yeah, so generation uh now it's over Z and the before then the millennials, that's all they know. So but that's mine.

Right now, to interrupt, not to interrupt, I guess I'm up next, but before we move on to mine, that World Series, I had our cousins over, and they're from Queens. They're from Queens, and we watched game six together, and I wanted to kill my cousin Stevie. Stevie Kellan, that's you, my good man. But he was so ecstatic, and I couldn't have been more evil. But anyway. All right, I'll make mine pretty quick. Um, very sad story. I know Mark was being a bit little sarcastic when he said it was heartbreaking, which it really was. But this is, I think, a bit more serious, and this was January 28th of 86, and that was the space shuttle challenger blowing up. Just it was, I believe it was 46,000 feet into the air over the Atlantic, and it just disintegrated with seven crew members aboard. Um, obviously tragic. Um and uh we're all from the Northeast. So Krista McAuliffe was on that space shuttle, a teacher from Concord, New Hampshire, and you know, so everyone around the country, because she was gonna go up with that, um was watching it in school. Yeah, we were watching elementary school. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like JFK, you know, how everyone, you know, always remembers when where they were when these things happened. And I was in math class at Hinsdale High School. I was in math class too. Weird. Yeah, it was just the teacher just looking around, not knowing what to say. Like all us kids are like, what the fuck just happened?

Well, that's become a funny like Gen X thing where we're like, we were watching the Challenger disaster and they blew up right in front of our eyes and they told us to go back to class.

Okay, open your books to page 32. Right, right, right. I'm like, was that a to work? Was that a solid rocket? What was that's not that's not real? That didn't happen. Yeah, you're trying to justify it and figure out your mind. No, that's not that's not what I'm seeing.

There was no there was no like counselors or anything like that, yeah. Right? They were just all like, whoa, what the hell just happened? All right, let's go back. Roll the TVs out of the room and back to it.

I was at um, I went, I didn't watch it live, but I remember the store, AJ, down the road, Mortz. That was a great store. Yeah, I loved it. And and the woman was just like look so pained. She was in, she was so upset, and I'm like, what happened? She told me, and it's like, oh my god. Yeah, it was brutal. All right.

To put a fun spin on that, if anybody likes to dabble in the conspiracy theories, they are out there where they have people with the same names of the people that were on that flight 20, 30 years later. Saying that's that same names, and they look at them and I mean who knows with CGI and whatever else in AI now. But there's crazy there is, and it's been going around for a few years. There's a little conspiracy thing that shows like Krista McAuliffe and and then Chris Christine C. McCulliff, who has the same um doctorate that she had and whatever else, it's living somewhere else. But anyway, just right.

We saw it before our eyes came in. Yeah, but how do we know they were on there, brother?

Right.

Well, I mean, that's the reality of it. If you weren't on the ship, then you don't know. You know what you were told.

You know what you said.

And I'm not saying that's I'm not saying it's true or not. I'm just saying that unless you were sitting there, who knows?

Yes. I do believe it did occur.

I've seen it with my own two eyes. So do you, Dungo?

All right. So on April 26th, 1986, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant disaster in Ukraine, of all places, uh, which is interesting that they were trying to lob girt uh fucking mortar shells at it just recently. You know, it's like, uh you idiots. Because it is still it's still in meltdown. I mean, it's got a cement dome over it, but it that thing's still cooking.

The outfits are still in there.

Yeah. Back then, not knowing how serious that could have been and was, it destroyed the area, you know, destroyed the surrounding town, and obviously. Could have been, you know, a lot worse. So it's uh what caused it to blow? Um, you know, poor maintenance standards, and you know, they were kind of cutting corners here and there, but it'll do it every time.

So not to go too far into it, but I just watched that documentary, not too not the documentary, the the the uh the dramatization, and it was the uh it wasn't Teflon, but it was something on the outside of of the cores that cooled it, and they were two years late for a test. And they were so they were rushing to test it. The guy that was pushing them to do it pushed it beyond the limits. And so what happens is when they take those cooling cores out. Yeah, it was the cooling rods. The cooling rods. When they take the cooling rods out, the temperature changes, and when they put it back in, that coating on it creates a much bigger reaction than what should happen, and that's what basically caused it. But then they just continued to make bad decisions after that.

No, that didn't happen, that couldn't happen to us because we're perfect, right? And uh, not to cut you off, Donald, but just something I wanted to say because that was a great dramatization. Oh, that movie was great. Yeah, Skarsgarden when they're in the when they're in the helicopter and he's trying to get them to fly over it. He's like holds a holds a gun to the the pilot. He's like, you need to fly over that now. And the scientist isn't in the back who's in the back. He's like, if you fly over that, you'll be praying for that bullet in 24 hours or something like that. Because they're all gonna die if they did.

And I think the thing that struck me about that in the in the show, anyway, was that they were all talking about like at one point the guys that were trying to tunnel underneath to get the cement slab in there to stop the meltdown had taken all their clothes off, and the scientist freaked out because he they needed that clothing protection to slow down the radiation. So, but everybody was dying at different degrees. Oh, yeah, because at the same time, every single one of them was smoking butt after butt after butt. So it's like where are you on the timeline of injecting cancer into yourself? Is it making it worse with your clothes off or smoking eight packs of cigarettes a day or whatever? You know, yeah. Everyone watching. But I mean, that had all of them.

It had the alpha, the beta, the gamma. You know, alpha you can wear clothing and it will protect you, but the gamma, nothing's protecting you but lead. I mean, like six inches of lead. Right. Um, so yeah, they all died. Most of them died. Yeah, plus pretty awful to town. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like that roof where they had to get the stuff in into the pit where it exploded, and they could only the only way they could do it, they had robots, but the robots wouldn't operate. The only way they could do it is send a guy out for like what are they send him out at 20 seconds a time at a time?

To reduce the exposure is like ridiculous.

Madness.

Such a horrifying yeah, and and then not too, you know, recent past the Fukushima in Japan. Yeah, and that was because of a tsunami. Yeah, tsunami. But I mean, nuclear power is great, but it is not without risk. No, not to be fucked with not to be fucked with at all.

At all.

All right, Kev, awesome.

All right, and I just want to finish that with that, you know, nothing that bad has happened to Ukraine since Zelensky. But anyway, uh so I'm gonna go with um uh 1986, it was started in 1983, but they finally get underway. It's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, and they inducted their first class in 1986. It included the likes of Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray Charles, Sam Cook, Fats Domino, Everly Brothers, Buddy Hawley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, and Elvis Presley, marking the last time that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted rock and rollers. Yeah, pretty much. Because now they take just people that have nothing to do with rock and roll. They suck. It was a good idea, but I just I'm not into it anymore.

They have an agenda at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I think their agenda is to bring as many people under the tent as they can. The problem is, anybody that's a real rock and roll fan has now left that tent. Change the name, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Music Hall of Fame. That's right. Whatever. It's not rock, it's not rock and roll. Right.

It's not the hip-hop rock, you know, Hall of Fame.

And even some of those, I was looking through it like, okay, I saw like the first one that I saw that was in that hip-hop was Grandmaster Flash. I'm like, okay, I can see an argument for him being there, but I don't see an argument for what's her name, the Swifty girl or Lady Gaga or whatever else. That's not that's not rock and roll. That's pop music. That's you know, and I know, I know they sell out bigger tickets, which blows my mind. Ed Shireen has been like the top grossing act. I'm like, who wants to do it?

Him and his pedals, you know.

Yeah, exactly. Like he he should be in there at some point, but not, you know, I mean, like I I guess I don't know.

I just think he's a lot more rock than uh what they're putting in. Well, true time, true. This year was the music hall of theme. Right. This year was the best rock year for you know, in what 20 years. You know, bad company finally got in, uh, Foreigner last year.

And I guess the dance thing is yeah, right. And that's the I think that's the biggest thing is never. You're the rock and roll hall of fame. If you want to widen the tent, but you know, let's get Ted Nugent in there first. Let's get there. Is a I mean, did Priest make it in?

Uh I just imagine why they wouldn't because Maiden hasn't. Maiden, I mean, come on. And they don't give a fuck. They have their own fucking plane. Yeah, exactly.

Until Ted Nugent gets in, then I have zero responsibility.

Well, not I will tell you right now, not in 10 million years will it ever happen because of his politics. Yeah. All right, Mark. Well, that's number 10 to you then.

All right, I'm going with Van Halen5150. Obviously, this is a very huge change in the band at the time. David Lee Roth had left the band, Sammy Hagar comes in, and their sound changed a lot too. Oh, hell yeah. You know, and the the good thing to me about it, Sammy Hagar was also a guitar player. The big hits, I mean, was uh why can't this be Love and Dreams and Best of Both Worlds? But it's a decent album. I usually when I when there's a Van Halen album out, it's up on the list more, but I had to put it on because it I mean it showed versatility. Yep. So it's my 10.

All right. Well, my number 10 is the only one that I'm probably not gonna ramble on long about because you wouldn't even call this a one-hit wonder, and I know nobody else is gonna have it, but I had to take this for a certain ironic reason, and that is came out September 24th. It's Alice Cooper's Constrictor.

Oh, no.

Frankenstein, right? Well, no, it's not the the big hit Frankenstein. It has teenage Frankenstein on it. That's I know what you mean. Yeah, not feed my Frankenstein.

Frankenstein. The local food with the twisted fly. I'm a Frankenstein.

And I had to take it was I was a big Friday the 13th guy through the 80s, and this had the man behind the mask on it. You know, he's back, the man behind the mask, if I'm saying it properly. The irony of it for me is later in life, now I love Alice Cooper, but that was my pretty much my introduction, if you can believe that. And later in life, my brother David, God rest his beautiful soul, as I always say, uh, was in a tribute band for Alice Cooper called Billion Dollar Babies. The fact that this album that honestly, I don't love the album at all, but that meant a lot to me. That that was my introduction. So I'll simply leave it at that.

I just find it funny that you know his catalog, it's like, hey, do that Frankenstein song. No, no, not that one. The other one. The other Frankenstein song.

But yeah, so anyway, after that I'll probably ramble a little more, but off to you, Dungo.

Cool. Great memories of going to Alice Cooper with David. Oh. And us getting pulled over on the side of the road in Massachusetts. And I had like beer cans in my sleeves. Did they did you get away with it? We got away with it. Yes, of course. We had to dump out some, but we had you know, and that was back when they would tell you to dump stuff out. Were you underage at the moment? Yeah, they just during billion dollar babies?

Oh, I can't remember what you were not underage in 1990.

Donnie was underage at this point.

Yeah, not during billion dollar babies.

The band or or the no, he's talking about really seeing Alice Cooper at the Boston. Oh, the actual band. Okay, never mind. It was as a matter of fact, that's the show that Ace Reely was supposed to open up Fraley's Comets. Yeah, Fraley's Comets. Got to show up.

And I David was baked. I mean, I I remember that about it. Because like VJ's like, hey, you gotta see this. And I was just like in that like I need to sleep mode.

Well, the drinking with the mix probably had to do that. Yeah, that didn't help. Yeah, exactly. Go on, no.

Don't don't mix. Nope. Sorry, Darnold. Anywho, so uh I'm going with, and this is a weird one to start off with, but I'm going with Raising Hell from Run DMC. This is May 15th of 1986. And the reason why I picked this one is I know we've talked about this pat in the past, but I I I like the fact that they kind of resurrected Arosmith. Yeah, you know, with rock and rap, baby. Yeah, I thought that was good. The walk this way, that was like a clever video with the smashing the wall between the studio. Yeah. Walk this way, and actually had him on the album. That was great. I thought it was awesome. And it's tricky.

It's tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky.

Okay, they'll do this. It's tricky.

Remember David on that interview one? I do, it's on the video. Yeah. No, I do not like run DMC.

That's what he said. I'll never forget that.

I was the interviewer. They weren't like hardcore uh hip hop. No, they weren't. They were more mainstream stuff, but it was fun. It was fun music. Yeah.

That's kind of back when I didn't hate it. Yeah. You know, then they just got violent and miserable and got hijacked. It was fun.

Wasn't Penn and Teller weren't they in the video for It's Tricky? I think they were at the beginning where they were doing like car tricks or something like that. Just shows that moment of time that you've got Aerosmith, Runde MC, and Penn and Teller. Three of these things don't go together.

All three of them don't go together. But I definitely like the Aerosmith. Yeah, that was a good thing. And that kind of brought I don't know if that was the impetus that brought them back. Well, sure.

Well absolutely. I I believe that was the spark that reignited there.

Right. Yeah, but to me that they were already. Well, absolutely.

I mean, good for good for them, and you know, a little a couple more rehabs and some albums and billions of dollars. But no, my point is not too much after that. Like we've talked about permanent vacation, was where I took a permanent vacation from Aerospace.

But I mean they did have a different group of fans, I guess. Oh my god, massive.

Do you know when they played uh when they play South America, they wouldn't even do the old hits because down there they didn't even know them. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. We played this song back in the saddle. Never heard it. Is that a new one from Aerosmith?

What is that?

Was that off honking on Bobo? The masterpiece. All right. You good, Dongo? Yes. All right. Off to you then, Kev.

Well, I'm gonna follow my brother Mark's footsteps. Because my number 10 is 5150. It was kind of an odd choice for me because I've been pretty vocal about not being a big Van Hagar fan. But I thought that album was fantastic. I know Mark mentioned the hits off it, which were not the songs like Dreams. I could live my life without hearing dreams. Love Walks In, okay, but it's like Summer Nights and and some of the you know 5150, the the title track were just great songs. I think the difference is because I feel like every album after that, Eddie's originality dissipated. I think that he became a shadow of himself. Would that have happened with Roth? I don't know. I think Hagar is a great songwriter, but he's strongly in pop. And that's not what David Lee Roth was, and that's what I I loved. But I think the difference is on 5150 and a little bit of OU812, Eddie still had swing.

Right.

I can't describe it any other way than swing, and I think he got it from his father, who was the clarinet player and and and big band musician. But I think that's what it is. I think that's what makes the difference because by the time Carnal Knowledge came out and balance and whatever else, it just sounded like Eddie Van Halen playing over all the other schlock that everybody else did. You know, there was nothing that really differentiated the songs, and that was I think what was missing.

I mean, I think if I was hanging out with somebody, I'd rather hang out with Sammy than Dave.

Oh no, I'd much rather you're gonna have some fun. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know, but he's Dave's insane. Yeah. Unless you're Sammy. Yeah. Because he would never hang out with Sammy. No, right. Sammy talked when they did the Sam and Dave tour, which I did see, he'd say Sam said, I'd I'd go and knock on the door and he'd not come out and whatever else. He wouldn't even go on the stage with him or whatever. He just he was he ghosted him completely on the same tour bus basically.

I'm just you're being honest. That's how I feel, you know. I was just gonna say you can never say Dave's not his own man.

Oh no, absolutely. But and it's well, we'll talk about that later. It's one of the things that struck me and reading about is I remember I saw that show when they first toured for 5150. Yep. And uh I did too. And and Sammy told the story about how it happened, and that was he went to his his mechanic, who was the same Lamborghini mechanic that Eddie had, and he kind of put them together, which is weird because back in 77, when they were first when Don Landy and Ted Teleman were first producing and developing Van Halen, there was some serious questions about Roth's singing.

Oh, hell yeah.

And they had talked, the two of them were like, you know, you should call Sammy Hagar. Like this is in 77. And it wasn't until that on the breaks that Templeman started talking with Roth and realized what a brilliant guy he was, as far as I mean, intelligence and stream of consciousness, because he he'd go from he'd he'd go from what did he say from Tom Sawyer quotes to comic books. Right. He went he went everywhere. But what really saved him, and thank God, because even even Templeman says now that would have been the biggest mistake in all of rock and roll history. Oh god. If he had if he had fired Roth.

He could think when he wanted to, though.

Well, at that time, no. According to Templeman, no, he couldn't. Definitely wasn't a vote. I mean he could affront me. Yeah, I know. But he couldn't carry a tune. They he he would go off key really badly. And according to Tempelman, I again I wasn't there. The lyrics.

Oh god, that's what like can you imagine nothing between you know I and Halen one and then 1984. Yeah, right.

So I think it was Templeman. Templeman quotes the line, you but you get to bleed for it. And he realized that that's who Roth was. Roth was a guy that was gonna lay it all out on the table, and of course, that's exactly who he was.

So absolutely.

But I did love that album, the guitar work. I remember being at the drive-in theater. We used to walk down the railroad tracks and then sneak into the drive-in theater from there, and you could always hear the the sound coming from somebody's car near you or whatever else. But we had uh we had a half gallon of Jack Daniels and a bottle, uh, two-liter bottle of Pepsi. Needless to say, the Jack Daniels ran around twice, the Pepsi went went around one and a half times. And I learned how to chase Jack Daniels with Jack Daniels. Um, but that was the first time I heard what was the uh Get It Up? Was that the the one on there where he's just like it's like lightning fast? It's like you listen to it and you're like, did they just speed the track up or what? Right. Um Van Halen was playing some monster speed at that point. So great work on that album. I I I love the album and I thought there was great promise. I was sorely disappointed.

As they went forward. Yeah. Okay, Mark, number nine. I'm going to nine. I'm going with the bangles. The bangles. Different light. I I didn't see that one. Yeah, I mean them up. Um, there's another one that I didn't see till uh another choice on my list that anyway. You know, Susanna Hoffs. Is it Hoff with a yeah? I just had a thing for her, as we know. It was just you.

Yeah, it wasn't every other 16-year-old boy in the country.

I said, Yeah, I I understand that. I mean, you my favorite song was Manic Monday. I mean, it had a it had a little bit of a piano part that sounded like the doors. A baby light you might fire.

Yeah, that kind of that baby light you like. And what is a kid gonna do? But do you know who wrote Manic Monday? Was it oh god, Prince? It was. Yeah. It was.

Yep.

How cool is that?

Yeah, that is cool. I mean, walk like an Egyptian was a kid. She knew what she wanted.

Um, her face on that video is just like in impregnated into my brain.

When she looks left, yeah. And she looks left as she's like, exactly sexy as all my god, it's like those eyeballs and beauty feeling.

Yeah.

But it was, I mean, they had a lot of problems after this record, you know, a bunch of women together and all. But yeah, but it was fun music. It was really a lot of fun. And that was a sound. A lot of my choices tonight are gonna be uh soundtracks of that year. Yeah, that was a very memorable year for me. It was my first year that I lived on my own.

Great pick, though, Mark. I don't know how I overlooked that one. I did it never even popped up too.

Probably one that I overlooked too, that one of you guys will pick, but whatever.

Well, number nine to me. This is Van Hagar. So I'm not gonna go too in depth about it, just two quick things. One is summer night. That song made me think of, I mean, summer nights.

It just gave us that summer feeling.

How ironic is that? Yes. Kick ass. But uh just what you were saying about Dave in the beginning there. I think the boiling point where they were like, We need Dave. This he's the guy, is when they learned he could write a a song in five minutes in the hallway of the studio. Right, yeah, exactly. Um, it is to me just a different band altogether. Also, exactly on 324 Donald, your birthday.

Yeah, precisely which is why I'm using that as my number nine. Okay, so off to you. Yeah, right, is Van Halen 5150. And we've talked about it extensively, but yeah, it was March 24th, 1986. And the personal memory to me is that was the first concert I ever went to. Really? You went to Van Hagar? Yep.

Van Hagar in Worcester Central. Oh, I was gonna say if it was if it was Cumberland County Civic Center, I was there with you, brother.

I was in Worcester, and I remember driving back, which is kind of ironic. The Aurora Borealis was visible that per the filming today, tonight, uh supposedly the Aurora will be visible from New Hampshire.

Oh, nowhere full circle. Yeah, it's supposed to clear up too, I think.

So I assume it was Bachman Turner Overdrive, was the opening band that night. Yeah. It's who it was when I saw them. I don't think they change opening acts, most likely between Portland and and Cumberland County.

Although you gotta remember, sometimes they would do Worcester and then finish their two worlds and then come back around.

So I don't remember when it was. I I really don't.

I'm sure we could look that up quick enough. Unfortunately, when this is launched, nobody will be able to see the lights. So true. Awesome. That's a good point. All right, so number nine, do you guess?

All right, so since everybody picked 5150, I'm gonna move on to David Lee Roth's Eat Him and Smile because that was where it splintered, and that was the direction you took. And honestly, a lot more critical acclaim, a lot more people in the David Lee Roth camp at that point when when they split up. Oh, yeah. Uh, but you also have to look at the band that was with him. Oh man. Bissonette, Sheen, and and Stevie Vi, who, you know, had always already done his time with Zappa, which is, you know, I mean, that's that's no easy cutting your teeth right there. Uh didn't realize this until I started doing my research. Vi also played on uh Johnny Rotten's Public Image Limited.

Really? Is that the guy from uh Sex Pistols? Sex Pistols.

Absolutely, which is which is kind of neat. The the other thing that we all endear, I mean, the songs were great, they were fun, they were loud, they were you know everything that we came to expect from David Lee Roth, but the greatest part for me was the videos.

Give me a bottle of anything and a glazed donut to go.

And the videos were supposed to be a movie. That was so he was already working on Crazy from the Heat was gonna be his movie. CBS had given him 10 a $10 million budget, and that was the flash point where he left Van Halen. Because I remember hearing from Eddie that David walked into the studio, like, hey, listen, guys, I'm gonna take a little break, I'm gonna do this movie and put out an album and whatever else. And they were all like, You're gonna what? You know, you can't, you know, you can't be in another band while you're in this band. We're Van fucking Halen, and you can't be in a so he's like, Cool, I'll see you later then. And that was it. And he went off on his way. But can you imagine the CBS ended up pulling the $10 million budget? They decided to go in a different direction. I'm thinking maybe it's probably better that way because we have those great videos.

I don't know if that would have not been a movie.

I don't think it would have made a 90-minute movie or even a 60-minute movie, but we'd be annoyed by the end. Yeah, they were tell me about it.

Forget about it.

Yeah, tell me about it. But they were great as the fabulous Picasso brothers, and it was just, I mean, again, my doctor says I have to take some laxative. Nothing in my story, you don't do it. Nothing my story you don't do, but uh our lips are so Brethman and our lips are so close. Not if you were the last immigrant gross on earth. They say, anyway, they say that Dave is a brilliant guy, and he's got that almost Robin Williams kind of stream of consciousness. That doesn't necessarily translate to a large audience. That's a that's a small audience kind of thing.

An acquired taste, if you will.

An acquired taste, yes, thank you. Perfectly put. But anyway, I I love that album. I I love those videos for what they were. I I don't know if it would have been so endearing if it had gone beyond. But what I mean, what a great band. Um I guess the on the um skyscraper tour, they there was a there was a rumor that there was a duct tape line on the stage that the other musicians could not go past.

And he could go in front, right?

So Dave could go and Billy Sheehan said that wasn't true on the Eat Him and Smile tour, but it had a lot to do with why he left for Skyscraper. Yeah. So see you later by. If I'm the hired help, yeah, I yeah, no worse.

I'm not playing. Not a fan as him of him as a person, at least I haven't met him either. David Lee Ross.

I mean, I would I would he's eccentric. He's he's definitely a unique rocky person.

He would drain my energy right out of my soul. I just hanging out with him too long. Right.

I get a kick out of the people that's what I get out of it. Try to take him seriously. Oh, he's such a jerk. I'm like, how can you even he doesn't take himself seriously? How could you and the other thing, and I think I've said it before, is that how can you be as rich as and successful? That man has made so much money, had so many great hits, and been with so many women, and when you see him today, still he is like starving for attention, yeah. Which has got to be some kind of like really uncomfortable as a human being. That's what I gathered.

All right, so that's oh, number eight to you and that would be the moody blues, the other side of life where he's picked. Yeah, um, that you have the title track, you also have your wildest dreams. Two massive hits this year. I love their smooth way of singing, and it it was a soundtrack. This is also a soundtrack going around. I think I was working with uh uh Natural Surroundings Landscape and Company, and uh I heard this over and over again, and I really liked it. And great being really smooth. I mean I wasn't a big I mean I didn't know much about the Moody Blues. I mean, obviously I like Tuesday afternoon and nights in white satin. I mean, that was a long time before that, but so yeah, but they were still a a great band.

And was that was that yeah, 86, was that before or after Asia?

Because those guys have been around for a long time.

No, Asia's been around. I was talking about the continent, I was talking about the. That's Tartaria.

But anyway, no, the band Asia was was wasn't it Justin Hayward? Wasn't he one of the singers?

I mean, I've I don't have a lot of knowledge on this band at all. Okay. I don't even know can't name one member, but I remember the songs. It's great songs, that's what matters.

Yes, all right. We're we're at eight. I am correct there, right? Yeah, yeah, that's right. All right, so this one, May 23rd, and that would be Poison's Look With the Cat dragged in.

Did you see the album cover of that? I know a lot of people. I thought it was a girl band.

So did everyone else for a minute. Have you seen my high school uh seen the picture? I look like a girl.

I'm a dude! John, you could have been on the cover. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, go on. It's just a I I mean, people out there, you know, and and this is my I always have a KISS connection when I do things. I find poison to be a lot like KISS, where they, you know, they weren't virtuosos for the most part, they were fucking fun.

I'll screen you that.

I will say that Brett Michaels, to me, even to this day, is one of the best performers out there, one of the best frontmen, because he's so frigging genuine. He really seems to care about the fans, he eggs everyone on. I think they're I won't say underrated as musicians at all, but I mean there's no denying their MTV, you know, they were a staple. Yeah, I mean, just incredible. And then I have to look at my notes here because I go blank once in a while. I want action is on this album. I won't forget you. Talk dirty to me. Just, you know, these were huge, huge hits. I had to go with it. That's that. That's all stable.

I mean, to to to cut it up or to simplify it, AJ. I I think what you're trying to say is that Brett Michaels is not looking for anything but a good time.

Nothing, nothing but a good time. And that's a great fun fucking. Exactly. So anyone out there who has an argument with me, so yet.

Okay, AJ, you're getting defensive. You're judging the audience. Uh, I know. But anyway. So, anyway, can I argue with you about it? I'm only kidding. Go on.

To you, Dongo for number eight. So I'm gonna just continue with uh Eat Him and Smile. I love it. I love that album. Yeah, I I think David Lee Roth won that that year. I agree with you. Um, you know, I've watched Saruman Contact. It was so much fun. The music was fun, the band, I love Stevie Vi, um, Yankee Rose, Shy Boy. I mean, that album kicks ass. I love that album, and the videos are so funny. So fun. Give me a bottle of anything and a glazed donut to go.

Go, go, go, go. This is my honeymoon. I'll only have three or four more of these in my whole life.

Yeah, he just won that. I mean, I saw them in Manchester on the river. I was at that show. Yeah, was that before you with me on that one? Might have been. Yeah. I that's a long time ago.

Well, you were you were luggage agent that was, yeah. Yeah, I was at that show. And he at the end he had the David, Lee, Roth, lights in the back.

Yeah. So we had a lot of fun going to that show. I yeah. I saw him there. I think I saw him in Worcester too. So yeah.

Portland, if you were with me. Yep. Oh, you were at the Portland show?

Oh, wait, that was David Lee Roth. So the David Lee Roth one I didn't get to go to. I had the Worcester tickets.

He came out on the surfboard. Yeah, I know, but I didn't make it.

I didn't make I can't remember if that was the one where my parents wouldn't loan me the car a day after I got my license to go to Worcester. And you passed out behind a tree? Or the night that we lost the tickets and I passed out behind a tree.

You lost the tickets? Yes. What do you want? But the show uh Detroit Rock City, what's the matter with you?

There was a Dio show and a and a and uh uh David Lee Ross show that I did not make it to, which is like even more infuriating at this point in my life. Right. But do you remember who opened for him?

I don't know. I think it's Cinderella, maybe? Maybe maybe don't get too deep into that.

Yeah.

All right. Wrap up number eight, Kev. Okay, the end of eight, I gotta go with because it was one of the almost a resurgence um to goodness was the ultimate sin, Aussie. I mean, that one really came flooding back and kicked ass and took names.

It was we love that album. I know.

It's a it's a great album. I was listening to it on the way here. Oh, yeah. And there's so many good songs, and it just warms my heart to know that you know, all the work that Jake E. Lee put into that, that he just got compensated. Jake Lee was badass. I'm being sarcastic because we know that he got he got a folded up paper check written. Because I mean that was like 80s.

It was 80s, like he was doing 80s music, but he still was badass. Like he still kept it hard.

Yeah, that's if you listen to his guitar parts, it still had that Aussie feel, but there was that, you know, the the the high bends, the Stevie Vi kind of bends and and high notes that that became very popular at that area era. So it did. It stayed rooted in Aussie, but it also moved on into what was popular at the time without selling out and becoming something that ages badly because it doesn't. It it aged well.

Jakey Lee was he he was the muscle head, wasn't he?

No.

Which one was the muscle head?

Zach Zach Wilde. Zach was a rail, though, in the beginning. Yeah, so now he's like now he's yeah. Did he have any help with that? He's fucking awesome. Yeah, he's a good guitar. No help with that. No steroids? No, he's not a muscle head, he's just bigger. He got older, like all of them. I think if it was anything, it was he's just Zach Daniels. Yeah, exactly. Black Label Society, right? Awesome, awesome. So that's number seven to you, then, Mark.

Okay, I'm going with Pete Peter Gabriel. Ah, nice. So uh yes, another soundtrack of my year of 1986. You have Sledgehammer. Big time. In your eyes, and uh yeah, he was the original singer. In your eyes. I've never heard of that one before. Yeah. Yep. And uh he did a song with uh idiots, don't give up with uh Kate Bush. That was a really sweet tune that he did. But uh as you know, I'm talking about the original singer of uh Genesis. Yes, sir. Oh yeah. And this was just I mean, he was this is at it when he was at his heights. Oh, this album was fantastic. It wasn't it though. It was it was incredible. And um and it got a lot of airplay, and I never really got sick of this one.

Super talented.

Yes, very talented. And uh so that's my number seven.

And um nice Mike, you're going off on genius, you're not. Picking the ones I thought you would be today. That's great.

Well, no, they'll they might come up. I don't know. There's some that I might not even I might have on my list that I don't really like.

And that any more kind of favorite albums, there's some I don't like.

Well my point is I did like it when I was growing up age. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Some of these I like now, which and some are vice versa, right? Exactly. All right. So number seven and me. Big surprise, everyone. I have Eatem and Smile. All right. Who did that? All three of you pencil neck geeks. Up against 5150. I also went with this album, you know, in the big race between Dave and Sammy. Just incredible that they both were able to get very successful with both albums, you know, just different bands. Band, I mean, what can you say about Dave's band here as well as Van Halen? Just fucking amazing musicians. It's another album to me. I don't know if it's firecracking in the 4th of July, but it also makes me feel summery. Yeah, it's a very summer-like album.

It came out on a surfboard, like you said, you know?

Absolutely. But great album. Uh, I would just wanted to say we already talked about the big hits on it, you know, Yankee Rose, Shy Boy, going crazy. But I always loved Ladies' Night in Buffalo.

It's still the only song I know. It's 21 traffic slow. Another ladies night in Buffalo.

That on when you listen to that, that almost could have been on um Main Streets. Yeah, it could be. It had that feel of that era.

On Van Halen 1, you mean?

No, no, Van Halen um Fair Warning.

Fair warning, thank you.

Thank you. Jesus, it sucks getting old.

I know.

But yeah, doesn't that song feel like a fair warning song? Absolutely.

It could fit anywhere in a Dave. Oh, Catalan, yeah. Absolutely. But I won't go any further on it because we've talked about it, as Mark would say, ad nauseum. So do you, Donald? All right, I'm gonna go with Bruce Hornsby.

Bruce. Babe Bruce. Stop what you want it to stop your big Bruce. And that's the way it is.

Some things will never change. That's just the way it is.

Wasn't he a baseball player? Go on. Yeah. No, I just remember that song, like hit me at the right time. Um do you, right?

Yeah. These are big. Yeah, and that was that was everywhere. That was big. And and he actually had another hit at that time sung by somebody else that I'm not going to mention because they might come up on the I actually had a a deep love affair with Bruce Hornsby's music after he left the range.

God you said music, right?

Yeah, did you find him attractive? No, not at all. He's a goofy looking bastard.

So, but what was his biggest hit? I mean, in that album, Donnie, because I don't know much about him. Maybe the way it is. Yeah. How did it go? Mandelin's singing it.

Was I just the way it is? Do-do-doo. Oh, doo-doo doo.

Things will never change.

That's just the way sometimes that happens. But don't you believe it?

Dean Eddie used to sing that all the time. Yeah. Hi, Dean.

That's uh seven then, Kev. Seven, Kevin. All right. This is a band that I saw them open for Bon Jovi, and I almost left when Bon Jovi came out because these guys blew him off the stage. I'm talking about Tom Kiefer and Cinderella. These guys were again one of not as not as cursed as Skid Rowe, but they like got to the party and everybody left. You know what I mean? They had two really great albums. Or thank you, Grunge. Thank you. And then the yeah, the the Nirvana Gate thing came in. And but oddly, Bon Jovi, because they were under the same label, he did sing two tracks on that. Um on that album. Night Songs, right? Which is no, it was um Night Songs is the name of the Night Songs is the name of the album, absolutely. But and I'm gonna put this up on our pages, our socials, because one of my favorite things that I found out later in the information age about Cinderella is there was a hot dog stand in Philly where they used to go after shows, and sometimes they'd have no money, and the dude would hook them up and give them chili dogs at three o'clock in the morning after party and it were Pat's so they did they wrote a song, they did a commercial, they filmed it in three hours at like O Dark 30. They had like the hot dog stand owner's nephew was a little kid in it, and whatever else, and Keefer's out there singing Pat Dogs, and it's just it's just such a beautiful thing that they were like they were on, they already got the contract, they were on their way, and they were like, you know what? Didn't forget we just starved to death if it hadn't been for Pat and his chili dogs, and probably some bad he lost his voice eventually.

That sounds pretty fucking good right now, too. A chili dog so good.

So that's I mean a great album, a great band. I actually kind of like this the album that came out after this. They they went a little more bluesy and had a horn section and really wrote some great music.

But yeah, so AJ can attest to this, like they were better than their own.

Some AR guy convinced them that you have to look like well, that's it. Is it is they because I mean that's what happens to these guys, and we've talked about this. Hey, we got 10 great songs. Great, we're gonna make 12 albums out of it.

Right.

You know, we're gonna put one good song on each album, then write 10 more shitty ones, and we want you to dress up with put on makeup and wear purple sequence stuff and we're gonna go.

They're the scum of the year if these people do these debates.

When you're a band and you're begging chili dogs off Pat on Tuesday night, and somebody waves $10 million in your face, yeah, I would probably put on.

Yes, absolutely. Grumble grumble. Grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble. So where are we here? Number six.

Yes, well, I'm going with uh an album that I really loved when it came out. It's Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet. Um, I don't care if I hear any one of these songs ever again. Not a single song on the record, but at the time, this was absolutely massive and everyone loved it. I mean, I don't even have to bring up the songs, everyone knows the songs. And uh, but again, I don't care if I hear one of these songs ever again.

And you know, now is it are you fatigued or you just don't care for them? Or both?

I was uh I would say more fatigued and and I don't know. Not a big fan of Bon Jovi.

No, but I mean they were there was something to those songs. I didn't buy any of the albums, but they were, you know, totally goodness.

It was the timing was perfect. And uh no, it was an incredible record. Incredible, and at the time I loved it.

I mean, you have to respect their I mean, you may not they're they were awesome, you know, at that time. They were good musicians.

I mean, I actually liked his earliest stuff a little better, but you know, and I will also say that in 1986, in terms of dating and the opposite sex, if you had a choice of going to an Aussie show to meet somebody or a Bon Jovi show.

That's an easy one.

You know you're gonna find well, go to a Rush show. Yeah, no, right, right.

A bunch of dudes with glasses, yeah.

They got Getty Lee's wife up back locked up so none of the men can get to her because she's the only female on the show.

And that really sucks because I absolutely love Rush, but let that go.

All right. So we're going to my number Mother Fing Six. Okay, don't get angry angry. Which Ming. I actually have a chance to say something that's been picked up. Let me just say this first. Yes.

Kidding.

All right. Uh October 24th, this band is called Striper, and the album is to hell with the devil. I am a Christian, in fact. And I'll make it the day that my sister got me in. Well, she didn't get me into the band, but she told me this Christian band was going to be on TV. I watched it and I was sold right away. And it wasn't because of my beliefs, it was because they kicked fucking ass. They were incredible. And this album A Cussing Christian. What'd you say? I'm sorry.

A cussing Christian. There's plenty of us out there. Called you a cussing Christian.

So this is um a big thing for them because this is the album that really, you know, was their break. It took them off. They were massive on MTV. They are, as a matter of fact, they're the only band to ever have three songs make the top ten on MTV. And they're also the only band to have two songs in the top ten at the same time. And that was uh free and honestly, and Calling to You was the third. Okay. Just all amazing songs. I like the title track. Michael Voice, yeah. Michael Sweet's voice is amazing. The title track to Hell with the Devil's Incredible as well, which they also had a video for, I believe. This band to me is really big. Now they're you would call them metal now. Back then I would have said hard rock. Now I would call them metal. I always say this the one song that I love from now, or I say now, it's probably five years ago now, but it's called Blood from Above. Oh, that's right. Give it a listen. An amazing band, amazing musicians. Uh Robert Sweet is the drummer that came up with the sideways drum set. So you could be somewhat seen. It was a neat, neat, neat way to go about it. Yeah, absolutely. But Michael Sweet's voice is amazing. Yeah. And they write great songs. It's obvious because if a Christian band tried to make it on MTV, they'd get shot down right away unless the music was great. Well, they wouldn't, even if the music was great.

In 2025, if the music was great, if it maybe was the best music that anyone's ever heard, would not get played on MTV. Well, zero. Nothing that's not played.

That's a very good point. For them to hit it at that time meant they were good. Fucking right. You got it. They sure were.

So number six to you, Don.

Cool. I'm gonna go with a simple one. Rat dancing undercover. Yeah. Um, just because that was the sound of the 80s, you know. They were right in that 85, 86, you know, they came out with uh Invasion of Your Privacy in 1985, which was awesome. The bathroom album. Yeah. And then Dancing Undercover came in 1986, slip of the lick, slip of the lip.

That was a little slip of the lip.

Body talk. Just make my great song.

You know, good good tunes, fun. Great. Is there a talk box in that body talk, or am I thinking of something else?

I don't believe so, but I could be mistaken. I might be thinking about the colour. Way Cool Jr., I think. No, no, that was on that album.

That was on the not the last one, but the last one from the era.

I don't know if that had a talk box, but no, but I just remember we went to we tried to go to like every rat show there was, and for whatever reason, that was right when we were in high school. We tried to go to every show there. Yeah, regardless who was putting but it was like rat poison. They were always seeing penetration.

Well, that kind of goes right into it. Yeah, you have chickens. Do you like rats?

Not really.

Yeah, you can you and you gotta put rat poison out, but you can't let the chickens get into it.

Good, good, uh, good. I like where you're going with that.

Hey, you know, hey, I have chickens, I have chickens, you know.

Hey, yeah, uh moron and the rats down in Manchester area, man, they're they're big. They're brutile. Yeah, brutile. We've got some pretty big ones down there. Yeah, they're like the size of cats.

One thing about rat as you're on that, if you go back and you think of the amount of hits that they had, yeah, and the fact that they became a headliner for like three months. Seriously. And that was it. Like to have that many amazing. Yeah, they had a lot of hits. They had a lot of hits. I did hear Steven Pierce, he pretty much sucked live, and he was not good when I saw them, but maybe he's come along. He actually was not that bad at when I saw Eddie Trunks 40th in Vegas. All right.

Well, again, again, you have to also figure into the fact that I mean, I think Di Martini graduated high school last year. So no, he was just didn't he he had not finished high school when he joined up with them.

Wow. Awesome. Great baby. So uh six to you, Kev.

Alrighty. Well, I have to go with it because it was it was there. It it was that album. Go ahead. No, I'm the longer you try to get me to say it, I'm not gonna. Uh I'm going with course Master of Puppets. Ah, yeah. Because it was like the culmination of everything and still kind of the end of everything, because as we talked about, that's where we lost Cliff. Just a couple interesting notes because I feel like maybe somebody else might care about this album. At one point, they were talking to Getty Lee from Rush about producing it, which would have been really wow, that would have been bizarre. Yeah.

The long songs.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yes, exactly. Yep, that prog rock. But again, that would have been that's one of those things you look at like, hmm, what would that album be like with Getty Lee producing it? But I think also Getty had enough of an ear to realize who they were. And let's not try to make Metallica sound like Rush. I don't think that would have been his. But anyway, and then the other thing that stuck out at me, just because myself and well everybody else on the planet makes fun of Lars and his drumming or lack of ability to drum, or whatever you want to call it. But he on that he had a snare, a very rare Ludwig snare that he borrowed from Rick Allen from Def Leopard. Really?

Which I thought the foot snare.

Well, 86, so no, right?

When was I not sure?

I can't remember when the when the accident I saw. Well, maybe that's why Rick wasn't using it. I'm not using the snare so much right now.

You could just keep that.

Hey, you know that snare you borrowed? No, actually, he'd be using the right. It's the left he lost. So anyway. Glad we can make fun of the man losing his arm. Go on. So bad. No, that's it. That's all I had to say. I just say I I mean that album isn't iconic. It's fantastic. I love every bit of it. And back to you in the booth.

All right. That's number five to you, then, Mark. Okay, I'm going with Megadeth. Peace sells, but who's buying? Yes, sir. I mean, just absolutely searing, bone crushing. Just I don't know what to say. I'm recently starting to get into Megadeth. You know what started it? Uh, I was I was on, I think, Gateway Pundit, and there's an interview with Sean Ryan. He's has his own podcast, and he he uh Mustane was on there talking about um um putting hexes on people that he got into witchcraft for a while. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, you saw yeah, and he definitely regretted it.

Yeah.

And he's now a Christian, he's also a cussing Christian. Right. But uh yeah, it's an incredible interview. He also talks about when he was in Metallica. That was a good interview. Oh, you watched it for over three hours.

I didn't Christian, that's why I didn't cuss. She gave me a lot of the follow-up on it, so I'm gonna definitely listen in.

Yeah, it's it's a long interview, but yeah, when he's talking about Metallica, he also they were driving from California to New York, and Mustaine was driving. He hit a patch of black ice, but this isn't the Cliff Burton one, I don't believe. No, that was an actual no, that's a Metallica. I know, but he was in Metallica when this happened.

That's my No, he was not in no, I'm talking about the Cliff Burton. He was like, Yeah, Mustaine was in Metallica, correct.

But um, but yeah, he was talking about that, and they at they said that you're fired. They got to New York and says, Yeah, you're you're not in a band anymore.

Well, that's where I was gonna butt in and say that's one place where I know Mustaine wasn't driving because they threw him on a bus, like passed out in the morning, and shipped him off to California. Yeah, from New York.

I I don't know what he says in that interview. It's probably fairly accurate. I've heard like 17 different stories. I know. They got up and left and left him in the hotel room, passed out and whatever. But we all know that's kind of horse hockey that he got thrown out of alcoholica.

And that's what he said in the interview. Yeah, that's what he was saying.

Everyone else was getting hammered all the time. Exactly. It's just that I'm imagining he was pretty annoying, drunk, because he's pretty annoying sober. Yeah, who?

Mustane?

Mustane, yeah. Well, yeah. I appreciate the hell out of his guitar work, but his voice too. And his writing and his writing too, but I think it's unbelievable. Peace sells. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean brilliant song.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, and right, right on point. Like it's there's there's all kinds of like clips out there of people doing what is it that me kill me, yeah.

It's like, geez. I okay. Let somebody else sing, please. All right, so he's he's no Bob Dylan, okay? He's no Bob Dylan, but you have the conjurant. But yeah.

He's like a cartoon character.

Sorry, Dave. Love you, buddy. I can't say it properly as I am not French, but Le Tout Melot. A cheapur?

Oh my god.

Moose have a rod up your hooper.

Please refer to the SNL episode. Anyway. All right. So what was the La Tout Melot?

Oh, it's a great it's a mega-des song. It's fucking incredible.

I thought it was a fine French wine.

He claims that uh Metallica took a lot of his rifts and wrote songs out of it.

There could be that. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Yeah, they actually admitted that like Master of Puppets was like the first album where there was definitely no Dave Mustaine influence ideas or whatever else. That was all theirs, whereas Ride the Lightning and Kill Em All, there was still some of his. But I mean, again, how do you like you know what I mean? You have ideas as a band, you take things and and whatever else, but it's just you're gonna pick up on shit, right? Exactly. Oh, yeah.

And I'm sure there's a lot of audience members, or some that are already rock stars, are gonna take my riffs and go try to go right hits out of them. Right?

Exactly.

Yeah. Gotta copyright that shit. Yeah, yeah. All right. So we're the number five for me, which is actually my number one for a certain reason, which we won't go into. How can it be your number one? Shut up and listen to me. It's number 5150. All right, and that's gonna be, and I can never say the album properly, that's gonna be Tesla Mechanical Resonance. Yes, you said it. Thank you very much. This to me is very important because it carried me through a time in my life which many of you have probably already heard, if you've heard previous episodes, but I love this album. I find it to be one of the greatest debut albums of all time. Pure blues rock. Uh Donnie mentioned Cinderella earlier with the purple and all that. These guys, these guys came out in their jeans and just ripped it, man. Easy come, easy go, you know, coming at you live, getting better. Uh Little Susie, which I believe is a cover, if I'm not mistaken. Right? All right. But modern day cowboy, we're no good together. Changes really carried me through a tough time in my life. So this I the second I saw it, I mean, I struggled with this one because I thought it was eighty seven when we talked about something in the last cast, and you brought it up that it was eighty six, but it was eighty seven when I was really into it and listening to it. But yeah, it came out on December eighth of eighty six. So, so important to me. And that's all I'll say about it. But we needed to get one in there. Great album. You chomped it, didn't you? You had to do it. You had to do it. I did. I had to modify the list.

To you, Dongo. I stay right to I always true to my list. If somebody picks it, Soviet. Yes, exactly. Precisely.

All right, Don. Alright. So I'm going to go with one that it's weird because like I didn't, I can't name a song off the album, but I just remember hearing the album. And it's Ingve Malmstein.

Wait, what about Ingve Ingve Malmstein?

Or is that Ingve J Malmstein? Or I need to go a little further on this. I apologize, Donald. Or is it Ingve Malmstein?

The album's name is Trilogy. And this album was like very big for those who like to shred guitar. He was a shredder. Hell, you know. So I respect him. I liked it. It was part of the what was going on at the time where you had to like, okay, Ng Vay's doing this shit. You gotta do it, you know. And you know, so it was like iconic for that time, but I don't necessarily like it that much.

So those are the guys that like influence other people. So they can go. But he influenced somebody that became and made great music later. And it was, and I'm sure he's got a huge fan base. But I think we're all guitar players. We've talked about this before. That like for me, as much as I I respect and appreciate Vi for what he's done, I've never bought any of his albums. I like some of the people he's played with because of the diversity. That G3 tour with Eric Johnson, Stevie Vi, and who was the other one that was Satriani.

Satriani.

I mean, Satriani has never done anything for me. To me, it's like, okay, you know all your modes and your scales, and now you're just jerking off with your guitar in your hand. Because it's the only ones getting off on it in my world is you, and I'm not interested. It's like there's no melody there. There's no melody, there's no song to it. It's like and then what was the one? Was it Dover? The Satriani one with the with the digital clapping in the back. Oh my god, there's nothing worse than substituting drums for a digital clap noise. I hate it.

I did like Cliffs to Dover by uh Eric Johnson. Was it Eric Johnson? I was like a half. Yeah, that was yeah, that was actually kind of pop. So, what was the one?

Because I'm sure I'm sure there's a subsection of people out there that hate me right now, but I just never, and I get it. I know who Satriani is, I know who Satriani is. I understand where he was. I mean, a lot of people became better guitarists because he taught them. I know all of that, but he's never did anything. You like what you like, yeah. He just never did anything where like, oh, I gotta hear that, or oh, I gotta see that. I was like, is this song over yet?

I I am not, and I know Mark is, I am not a fan of instrumentals for the most part. I am, but hence your name.

But my name is Mark Instrumental.

But anyway, I couldn't come up with the name of this group, you know, the super group, uh, last time when we were talking about something, but it's Generation Axe, and it's Zach Wilde, it's Nuno, Ingve, Jay Malmstein, yeah, Jay, um, Stevie Vi, who he's the master of it, and then a few other guys that are not popping in my head right now. And it's actually fucking incredible to watch because they're popping in your head. They're actually um well, I noticed you doing that all day, Kev, talking about talking with my hands out there for those that can't see me. Um, at least me talking with my hands is not coming through the microphone. However, uh Do I knock? You were doing it quite a bit. It was funny. Um it's a joke. But anyway, um, back to Generation X. They actually put vocals into the guitar. So, like one of them is actually playing the vocals. I mean, you're obviously not hearing the words, but check out uh uh Bohemian Rhapsody when they do it, because they're doing you know what I mean, like hearing the vocal parts with the guitars, which actually makes it that much more interesting. So, but that's a in-veze in that, like I said, I gave you the list of names, it's worth checking out, even if you're not an instrumental guy like me. But anywho, we are at number five to Kevin, if I'm not mistaken.

Number five to me, and I'm glad that you jumped your cog to put in mechanical resonance because it was I was gonna go one way or the other with this one, and you went that way, so I'm going this way. Another album that we've talked about many times on here, Fast Ways Trick or Treat, which is just a fantastic that was 86. That was 86, it was 86.

However, it's a soundtrack. Go on.

It's not though.

I know it's not, but it I scratched it. Go ahead. Sorry, soundtrack. Okay, so let me teach you.

I'm glad you're talking about there's songs from other albums. Okay, I want you to do this. But if you want me to, I can go back and do mechanical resonance and shit on you. No, I'm just kidding.

I want you to do this because I didn't, and it's the way I look at it is it's fast way. It's right.

It's fast way, it's 1986. It was there, we were listening to it. Yeah. Again, it was that thing like when we talked about Prince, like Prince was a movie that went with a soundtrack, that went with an album. Right. This is an album that stands on its own. It wasn't that didn't the a movie didn't go anywhere. And the movie really should have re-released it to your play. Exactly. You are correct. You said that before that they should have, because the album was way better than the movie. And the movie kind of killed the album. Right. Um, but again, we've talked about it so many times before, and it is such a great album. And if you're if you've looked at the album cover and went, why the fuck would I want to listen to that? Go back and dig it out because there's some great, great tunes on there. And Fast Way was just, I mean, it was their peak game, and they and they got their legs swept by a crappy movie with Skippy.

Yeah. Skippy. That started out all right, but it the rest of it was a disaster.

Well, like I say, when the when the when the guy came prancing around as as the uh Sammy Kerr. Sammy Kerr. That's it. I mean, I was on the edge, or I'm like, man, maybe this isn't so bad. And then he comes out mincing around on stage and you're like, Ruins everything. Ruined it. And then the only other thing I can say about that is I still find it amazing that years later I have a cousin that's younger than I am was talking about how great this band flogging Molly is, and they had a couple big hits in in the late 90s, I think it was, maybe early 90s. I mean I've heard of them. Yeah. Well, the lead singer is Dave King from Fast Way.

Nice. Oh, wow. Yeah.

So he had a whole second career totally removed from the Fast Way, which is pretty amazing to reinvent yourself as a different thing.

And for those of you out there that don't know who that is, that's Fast Eddie Clark and Pete Way. So it's incredible musicians, incredible band, incredible album. Their previous album, too, was fucking awesome. That had uh what's the big song off that?

Say what you will. Say what you will.

Yeah, awesome.

Fucking and and how often is there a band where two guys in the band have last names that match together so perfectly to come up with a band name? The last one I remember is uh Fahrenheit.

I'm pretty sure though his name is not Fast, but I gotcha.

Yes. Fast Eddie Felsen.

Awesome. So we are up to number four, Bradhare.

Okay, I'm going with Genesis, Invisible Touch. Another soundtrack album. This reminds me when I work at the Summit Resort in uh Laconia, closer to Weirs Beach. Donnie loves it up there. You know, you have the title track, you have tonight, tonight, tonight. My favorite song on the favorite song on the record is Land of Confusion. And then uh throwing it all away. You know, I remember driving around with my buddy Dean Eddy. We used to listen to Phil Collins all the time, and uh or maybe, I mean, when we had the radio on, we would start singing all the time. And I think this is pretty much at their peak.

I mean the amount of hit they had and then he had on his own.

Yeah, they just pushed out hit after hit after hit.

Yep.

And I really enjoyed this. And he was the funny thing is that just didn't fit the part. When you yeah, when you look up, I mean when I was looking up 1986, I never saw Genesis, and then I finally I said, Okay, Genesis 1986 album release. And I saw it, it's like, oh my god. Not only is I am I picking this, it's gonna be way down on the list or up at you know what I mean.

Incredible album.

So that's what I meant.

They and he were a machine at that time, like you said, with the solo albums to have hit solo albums while you're having hit albums, but then you think of the fact that he was the drummer, yeah, and he replaced Peter Gabriel, who was like it was like, how is Genesis gonna go on without Peter Gabriel? Oh, we'll just bring the drummer up and give him a mic and whatever else. And then they went from doing epics like Lamb Lies Down on Broadway to doing tight pop songs that were incredible more than just a pop song. I mean, just a great pick.

I mean, I this is a song that is not on this record, but I got a job to do, I'm coming after you. That what is the name of that film?

It's a great song. I love it.

I got a name, and I got a number.

I've got a line on you. Now, see, one of the ones that I mean, as far as Genesis, and there are so many songs to love, but must be some misunderstanding. Or misunderstanding whatever that song is like, and that's almost got that early 80s kind of like some some is such a great must be we'll have some reels, Kev.

Yeah, absolutely. All right, well awesome pick though, Mark. Thank you. All right, kudos. Number four to me, I got another kiss connection foreign. But uh already been picked, and that's Bon Jovi, slippery when wack.

He's gonna talk about crazy nights.

You wait. Negatorian. Oh, all right, but um if you joined to and you walked on him. It was undeniable at the time. You couldn't uh it was as the emperor would say, it is unavoidable. It is unavoidable. But just I mean, incredible. You give love a bad name, Live It on a Prayer, uh Wanted Dead or Alive. And then my uh Living on a Prayer was written by you know with Desmond Child. Desmond Child, all right. The first song he ever wrote with anybody was I Was Made for Loving You Off Dynasty. So he holds Paul Stanley in a special place, but actually you can take that however you want.

But anyway Is that a whip in the background?

Just to tie in, and but it was huge. Another MTV staple. I I always loved the uh Wanted Dead or Alive video with the bus being on tour, Steel Horse. I ride.

Was it you give what was the one that Sam Kennison did? He was like out he was out in the audience or or stupid stupid Sarah did too, but no, he was like, We're gonna make our own video, and they gave everybody cameras and the whole thing. I think it was you give Bull of a bad name or something in there in that era, but I do not recall. But I just always remember, oh, we're halfway there. We got Bon Jovi hair. I just hope that uh because that's as far as we go.

We didn't have the skill. I hope she grew up to be a lot smarter than they thought. Sarah. Okay. Again, a different SNL Ice reference. I I get it, but uh I just uh yeah, okay.

All right, don't lead if you must.

40 UI soul. That it is dongo. So I'm going back to another one that we've picked already, and it's the ultimate sin from Aussie. Love that album, great album. Love Jakey Lee. He's probably one of my favorite. I mean, I love Randy Rhodes, he's always in my heart as the best Aussie guitarist, but Jakey Lee's number two and then very close tied to Zach. Zach Wilde is awesome. Uh he had the best fucking guitarist ever. Just yeah, he picked that guy. That's his knack is to pick a good guitar player. But Jakey Lee was like kind of like he flew under the radar a little bit. Like people didn't really give him the credit that he deserved, including Ozzy and Sharon. Yeah. Oh, but go on, of course. But you know, I love Killer of Giants, is such a good song. Oh, you know, The Ultimate Sin's great, it's a great song, but I love Killer of Giants.

Shot in the Dark is on that record, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Such a great song. So I love it. Oh, awesome. That's where I'll go with that.

Nice. So number 40 you, Kevin.

And I will just throw in that uh Brad Gillis also at the last moment after we lost Randy coming in, was no slouch either. Oh I think Brad Gillis is a highly underrated guitarist as well. Oh I love Brad. Yeah, I don't think he ever recorded with Ozzy, but he was definitely toured with him, I think.

Yeah, so he's it's like a they didn't like each other, I think.

Yeah, he's on Spi uh Speak of the Devil, the the double live is is him, I think, in most parts. But anyway, again, has Ozzy had a bad guitarist? No. That's his niche.

When you start your world with Tony Iom, right, right, you know, and it just and it goes out for a while. I wonder if that really was like, you know, I have to now.

Well, you know, there's there's a lot of pressure that when you leave a band like that, you need somebody that's a juggernaut and not somebody that's already identified, which is why Randy finding Randy was amazing and and who was a oh like and David Lee Roth leaving Van Halen. You have to have Stevie Vi. You can't you can't get freaking drippy dick in the painful discharges to back you up and be you know and and and and and expect to compete with Eddie Van Halen. You need Stevie Vi, right? Damn right has to happen.

But I mean, I I that's Ozzy's niche. Like he can pick out like whether he's sitting in a I don't know how it went, where he had multiple coming in and auditioning, and he just has that ability to be like, this guy's got something here, you know.

Yep. Um as a matter of fact, we talked about this before you go, Donald. Billy Corgan, who I know you still don't love, Kev, because you haven't really listened. I love Billy Corgan. I'm I'm I'm not great. Great, great, he had Zach Wilde on last week. I love uh Eddie Trunk said Zach was cocked one night, and the interview is mentioning it, and he's like, You asked for Zach Wilde, not Zach Mild. But anyway, um he talks about his audition with with Ozzy, and he has this joke where he like Ozzy would like go up and poke him in the eye and be like, make me a ham sandwich. I can't do Ozzy's voice, but and light on the mustard, because it was Coleman's, which I love Coleman's mustard. Yep. But anyway, it's interesting because he does talk about the audition because he was the only one that like sent a picture of him and he saw him, and Ozzy was like, This guy must have loved Randy. And I don't know if that had anything to do with the final decision, not to mention Zach's fucking incredible.

You gotta grab you gotta grab people's attention. The other thing of that too, it's it's like when when the Patriots had their area, everybody wanted to come and play for Bill Belichick. And I think after Randy Rhodes, yeah, okay, you've established Tony Iomie, Randy Rhodes. So the next guy is like, you know, you don't really have to go out and scout, you gotta scout him, but you don't have to go look for him. He's looking for you now. Moss, absolutely.

I hope they uh get that with Mike Grable. I mean, getting off topic. You mentioned the Patriots. I hope players want to come to New England again.

So anyway, I like very you know, Randy Rhodes, you know, Jakey Lee, Zach Wilde, they're they're completely different players, which is amazing. They're not all in the same vein. You know, but the albums are all unique in their own way.

But all those albums are identifiable as Aussie albums, right? Right, yeah. And not just the distinct vocals, the sound and the and the and the guitar as well. You you know an Aussie song when you hear it. Oh, that really is.

But you could totally be like, that's Zach Wilde, and that's Jakey Lee. And you know, just by you know, Zach's a rough, bluesy kind of, you know, battle dirty guy, you know. Whereas like Randy Rose was more melodic, classical train, and and Jakey Lee was kind of like, you know, he had some good rhythm riffs and stuff, you know. Bark at the movie. Yeah.

Were there other people making decision decisions on guitar players? Sharon?

Maybe, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'm you know, you still would say Ozzy picked a lot of great guitar players.

Could have been could have been a producer or something. Yeah, we don't know.

We'd have to research. All right. I so where are we again? I forgot Kevin.

I think I'm foreign. Off to you, Kiss. It's so natural. All right, so here's where I think I'm I'm moving away from the pack at this point.

All right, here he goes.

Because I don't know, maybe maybe, but I don't know. So my number four is Paul Simon's Graceland because it was such a huge album. I was listening to it again while while we were doing this, doing our research. And that is just such an amazing album, and it's crazy too, because he was breaking up all these years, crazy after all these years. Yes, thank you. He was his his marriage had just fallen apart with Carrie Fisher. His last album, Hearts and Bones, which I happen to love, did not fare well commercially. He and um Garfunkel had kind of like patched things up and then that fell apart, and he was kind of floundering.

I don't even know what that means. Art Garfunkel. What's wrong with Art Garfunkel? He has a beautiful voice, he's got an amazing voice. He can put a harmony to anything, but what I'm saying is that you turned me into him. What the hell are you talking about? What's it? Simon controls him! That's because Simon writes the fucking song. He's the better one.

And so I believe it was um Lauren Michaels from SNL that had this young woman, Heidi Berg, that was in the band. And Heidi Berg. Heidi Berg and and another show that Michaels was producing, and she was a good musician, and he wanted to bring Paul Simon in to uh produce her. And she gave him a bootleg tape of this, and I'm not gonna be able to pronounce it. It's a it's a South African style of music called Um Black Umbangwa. I wanna fuga. So he listened to this bootleg, and it was and they think it was it was either Ladysmith Black Mombazo who was on the album, and it and it's how he got all of that South African influence in there. And then, of course, there was a lot of complaints about because he kind of broke the unwritten rule about recording in South Africa because of apartheid, and his answer was a lot of shit going on over there now. And his answer was like, Well, this is how we make it right by by working with the people, not necessarily the government.

Right, right, right.

Um, and then of course, on top of that, there was oh, it's a consumer appropriation, you know, was a lot of complaints about that at the time, but that music became global because of him. Those people got paid, not just because he went there and recorded with them, they have recording contracts now, right? Um and and then so that one of the bands that he listened to was called the Boyoyo Boys, and I listened to them on the way over. It's good stuff, it's good stuff. Uh, but a very diversified, great recording. I think we're into the C D era, so the sound on that recording is is amazing. Early into it. And yeah, Los Lobos was yeah, Los Lobos was in on the recording of that.

And um That's Jimmy Ballon's.

Yeah, but anyway. Whatever. And then but they did version of it as well. Um but then there was also some complaints like the the saxophonist for Los Lobos said that that that Simon stole some of his licks or something and put it on there and never credited them and he says that he looked at Simon looked at him and said so Sue me see where that gets you. Right because if he's he's Paul fucking Simon at that point in your who now but so who knows I don't know if he's that much of a jackass because as we talked about before never met him no idea I know he's a hell of a songwriter and um and an underrated guitarist but um yeah Graceland was a was a huge huge album and just still sounds fantastic to this day.

And Elvis lives there. That's right.

Not anymore. Not anymore he's in South America with um Jim Morrison Hitler and who was the other one wouldn't that be like Tupac Tupac Shakur. Maybe Biggie Smalls.

I can't think of the country I was trying to think about it starts with an N down Nicaragua? No where Hitler I hid out.

Oh Brazil Argentina Argentina Don't cry for me Argentine Hitler did not sing that what do you know all right we're up to number three correct mundo three to Mark I'm going with the we are the world album just kidding um I was gonna knock you right off your fucking chair I'm going with I mean I'm not gonna talk long we're going with Master of Puppets I mean I love Kirk Hammett. Is it Kirk?

It's Kirk yes it is I love his guitar playing on this Kirk with a cat yeah and you know this is then when they were still Metallica a lot of people think they sold out with a black album I mean uh was it Newstead that says yeah we sold out every ticket in the house yeah exactly but uh you know the title track yeah you have uh Welcome Home Sanitarium which I spent a lot of my life more than probably 80% of it in a uh insane asylum for criminals Arkham yeah in your mind yep but yeah he just he shreds on this record and absolutely and yeah that's all I'm gonna say it's been talked about so did you know did you know that Sanitarium was based on Ken Keyesy's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest I did not know that Cliff I did not know you see there uh Nami God rest it's God rest it I love that show oh my god all right so we're the three to me then I guess and here I go again with Cinderella night songs just such a hard rock bluesy fucking rock band that you know people didn't take correctly in the beginning I mean obviously they took off and they had that those few albums but you'll notice that their photo is not remotely even I mean there's no photo on the second album Long Cold Winter I believe yeah they were just a white cover with no photo because they didn't want that stereotype fucking blasted back onto them but I mean oh my god what a great album nothing for nothing somebody save me shake me nobody's fool just and so much more on it it was just an incredible incredible debut I will go on to you Don because we have spoken of this they did come out looking like Brittany Fox in girls school and whatever else I know and they were so much more than those they were a lot better than that Jeff Labar's hair was about seven feet he looked like Eric Carr.

Yeah and he Eric Carr was worried about losing his hair that's the craziest thing I've ever heard it's like Ray Bork losing his hair so I'm going with uh I'm gonna go with poison look what the cat dragged in what did he drag in they always want to drag in the mice the Mises I can't catch me mouses I hate mises to pieces snaggle poison but no you know so poison is a fun band they're fun like it doesn't have to be technical it doesn't have to be hard it's just fun it's just like rocking out chicks drinking partying you know right with chicks and guns and let's have a bachelor party with chicks and guns and fire trucks and hookers and drugs and booze all the things that make life worth living for I love that line like CC Deville I I can't stand his guitar playing but he the songs are good you can probably like it better than his voice.

Yeah I don't sign autographs I'm sorry that's just how I remember they're very kiss-esque as far as like I kind of I mean I don't know if I talk you know same idea yeah slash tried out for yeah did you know that Donnie slash tried out for that band interesting I did not know this and they like they looked at him like he had eight heads oh because this guy's too good no because he didn't come in looking like you know extremely like the most feminine girl that ever lived he didn't walk in like that he looked in like Mr. It or whatever and then he said and CC Devil came in right after him he said he said right I knew that he was gonna get the win the audition and he did so yeah but it's like you said earlier before about the album cover I remember I used to spend hours going through the record store and just flipping through.

I'd start in the A's and I'd work my way down or whatever else and I still have competition I still remember flipping to that album going oh those chicks are kind of oh never mind never mind yeah and they were kind of the OGs for the glam you know um massive girls like men that look like girls or they did the androgyny thing back then they did men like women I mean women like men that look like women yeah you got my point.

Those songs are good you sing along tap your foot yeah kind of thing doesn't doesn't all have to be right virtuoso like I said I remember Brett Michaels when Grunge came in tried to change his look did he I don't remember that he had a black bandana actually yeah I think he did but he you know the makeup came off and he was trying to slowly blend into the grunge sound or not even the grunge sound but more the grunge look wouldn't you like to see two things whose bandana is taller Brett Michaels or Axel Rhodes no Brett Michaels or the guy from Counting Cars.

Oh wow who's got the yeah Danny Coker Danny Coker club last night I think two nights ago vamped in Vegas they closed like famous club great shows there I guess Eddie Trunks always talking about it and they closed it down and it was Faster Pussycat I think that closed it with Tami Down.

But yeah those two guys their their bandanas are like I mean most people have a bandana that's like you know it's an acceptable three or four inches tall and wears one of those 40 yeah but he wears it as a do rag. These guys are wearing it as a folded bandana and 14 inches long and it goes it covers the bald spot in the back. You know I think we might have an idea they might have to starch it or something I bet they do and iron it to I mean stand up exactly how do you I couldn't I couldn't make a bandana stand up 14 inches tall so anyway.

Oh I couldn't think of the Rodney line from caddyshat so we're still at you make a no can you I get a food at the ballpark yeah can you can you can you make an old fashioned can you make a shoe smell that's good what do you do back in boys town I tell you hey all right so where are we number two three three I'll finish it out with three with one that I just I can't believe you guys hadn't picked it yet uh it blows my mind Lyle Lovett Lyle Love It his his that was my number one that was I knew it was gonna be it was uh Lyle Love It Lyle Lovit didn't uh have you never heard of him didn't uh Julia Roberts marry him he was married to Julia Roberts and when they're an attractive man no no but talented an attractive man a hell of a songwriter got a very Rywitt like one of his one of the first songs that I knew by him was Here I Am that he co-wrote with Steven Wright and it was like Stephen Wright the comedian no no Stephen Stephen Wright the airboat the airboat pilot yes Stephen Wright the comedian okay well but so it's it's it's it's him talking about there's a chorus and then he just talks about like dry lines that that that Stephen Wright would have said what Ford is to Chevrolet what Dodge is to Chrysler what cornflakes are the post toasties what the clear blue sky is to the deep blue sea what Hank Williams is to Neil Armstrong can you doubt we were made for each other he does like one of his biggest hits of people that know about him is um the preacher asked me the preacher asked her and she said I do and the preacher asked me and she said yeah he does too the judge he pronounced us 99 to life son she's no lady the preacher asked her just I do the preacher asked me she said yeah he does the preacher said I pronounced you 99 to life son she's no lady she's your wife and I can't remember so a lot he has got a lot of that dry humor and he's he's hilarious and that was his first album and I don't know if it's just because I bought it back in the day and I listened to it but I love every song on that and it's rare as we found in this exercise to find any album that has got every song that you never hit skip on and that you love it.

The man is is uh he's a genius writer he's a he's an amazing musician um I've seen him a number of times and always always a great show awesome that's why we love you Kevin you come up with these picks I told AJ like we were on the corners Kevin's gonna come up with some really obscure stuff and that's gonna be awesome.

That's what I'm here for I'm the fucking weirdo we takes all kinds to get through life I don't know if that makes me feel better Mark Kevin coming from going up to number two to you brother. Alright I'm going with Cinderella Knight songs we've talked about this but to me they they were too edgy to be thrown in that that freaking uh attire and all that makeup and the poofy hair they were really great musicians and it reminded me of early Aerosmith it was filthy it was filthy music and absolutely bluesy bluesy and so was early aerosmith and what they did to that band I mean unfortunately they came along what well in 86 at that point it was all the glam bullshit well I mean we liked it you know we liked a lot of it but two huge albums right yeah this and then the the the next one and and of course grunge came and just crushed them and uh but I ever they crushed everyone really you know somebody save me was such a great tune yes and uh you know I don't know if Bon Jovi had anything to do with the the glamification of Cinderella because I know he was I don't think so well he discovered them he he's the one that helped them out.

Well they were friends I think they opened for him on I think yes after yeah he was in the crowd.

Yeah I I again I think I mentioned it earlier I saw them open for him and they blew up and they were absolutely incredible. He came out and he had all his stuff and he comes out and he was doing like Wanted Dead or alive and he he got on some kind of trapeze or something and it lifted him out onto the soundboard in the middle of the stadium and he picked up the acoustic and started to play and it was like clank plank clank and then you could hear the sound like turn it off and start playing the backing track back then. I'm like how do you come out with backing tracks when that band just did that on stage and hold your head up high I guess the 80 bazillion dollars you had in the bank made him feel better about it.

Absolutely loved to see you know my thoughts on the backing tracks too which we won't get into people I mean he say I mean he reminded me of a mic uh mixture of Steve Tyler the singer from BCD no not Bon Scott that replaced Brian Johnson he reminded me somewhere between yeah a little more to what Stephen Tyler and he did lose Tom Kiefer he lost his voice for a long he had a lot of problems with his vocal cords he trained himself to get back they said he'd never sing again he took a few years off and he said I'm gonna train it and he got a a physician to help him with that I can I mean I have and now he's awesome again so much friggin' respect for people like that that don't give up and say I will take no for an answer. I'm not gonna take no I'm gonna fight yep not only that but I'm not gonna play to a fucking laptop right you know which is more important and and we've talked about it before I will always give kudos to Def Leopard for just waiting like two years for Rick Allen to learn to play the drum with one arms that would have been so easy for them to just be like yep okay we're gonna get you know Vivian I mean Vivian they already had Vivian Campbell I was to say get Cozy Powell in here or somebody like that and yep see you later Rick we'll give you some royalties from the first and then I think again we've gone down this road before but a lot of that sound on hysteria came from the fact that he was using no for drum a question absolutely and it played right into the rap beat that was going on so I don't think that album sold very well but hysteria yeah that two two I think they sold I they sold triple diamond I think they never made it to gold they sold like 25 albums yeah there was like one song on that one something about sugar I don't know sugar and piss I don't know something I don't know I'm poor so give me some sugar I don't know ice holes we're going to number two to me right number two ice holes here we go again it's Aussie the ultimate sin which was really had to be near the top of my list this album to me uh this is Ron Nevison by the way okay who came in you know what's the word I'm looking for rejuvenated bands like fucking Heart you know uh they did Kiss Crazy Nights Ron Nevison yep he did kiss crazy nights this as well and this is of course an album Ozzy goes back to or did and wanted remixed like this was the sound of the 80s and now Ron Nevison kinds kind of gets shit on because they want that sound changed and want to remix it but what he did is you know in fact was give them that exact sound that they were looking for at that time but no one mentioned this song um we've the title track I love I love Secret Loser Never Know Why Fucking Killer of Giants shot in the dark all of them but no one mentioned my favorite song off the album which I performed in the Hinsdale basement preparing for an air band what multiple times patience please but it is lightning strikes I think to me that's the best song on the fucking album kicking in with that Jake Riff and then just Oh they redid that Aerospace no different one but this album has a lot of importance to me and that's that to you Donald Very cool I'm gonna bring it back to Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet because it was an iconic album of the decade obviously um I personally like the album cover that was banned in the United States that is the Japanese album cover it shows a very you know well endowed female on the cover.

Breast is right they should have gone with that one in the States um I love I love that album I I went to the concerts I love Richie Sambora I think he's a good compliment one two with with Bon Jovi oh they were a pair for sure yeah and he he had Heather Lockley here which is God bless him good dude man Johnny can I ask you something I have a customer that I call twin peaks is that wrong to her face no okay then it's not wrong it would be wrong if you said I call you twin peaks right okay and she'd be like whoa she probably maybe not yeah anywho she's sorry go on so I you know there's great songs obviously on that but I love Raise Your Hands I think that's an awesome song Raise Your hands he did that with uh um just a good upbeat song him and Sam Bora did that with Dolly Parton that was a great verse yeah I think that's a great in wild mysteries that one yeah so awesome song yeah awesome so do you Kev Oh let's see so righty then that's where I was going so so yeah that's the album so we've talked about it before ah you picked Pete Gabriel so um I believe it was his fourth or fifth studio album the first one that he didn't name Peter Gabriel and somebody brought that to his attention that you know you've named the last four albums Peter Gabriel and he said so so and so that became the name of the album right um some great great people with him on that obviously Tony Levin amazing bass player he did he's the guy that that invented the sticks playing the bass player with the sticks um and who's phenomenal in concert Kate Bush Jim Kerr from Simple Minds was also singing on that Sammy Sammy Kerr yeah um Niles Rogers from Sheik the big producer was in on that as well as Lori Anderson um and very similar because in in my mind those albums don't really come out at the same time but they in reality they did was Paul Simon's Graceland where he had the the African influences and also a lot on that album from Peter Gabriel you've got some some heavy African and Brazilian Joseph and Dorr.

How do you pronounce that guy's name what oh I think is what it is he's he's amazing he's he's you wrote it down but you can't read it no I can't read it either so I didn't bother writing it down uh but yeah he does the the ending of um in your eyes and he's got the the howling thing going on there which is amazing and he still does that I saw him last year two years ago I I saw him live and and he was as a matter of fact it was the last stadium show I declared it the last stadium show that I'll ever go to because I just hate fighting my way into the city and dealing with people and I just want to say this real short that has nothing to do with the album just that show we were like on the let's see stage right mezzanine area kind of in the middle of the row you know a mid midway up the stadium and at the beginning of it we were having fun because there was a guy who was probably at my age in his 50s heavy set Hawaiian shirt I don't know what chemicals he was using. Peter Gabriel opened up with Red Rain and he did interpretive dance for us to red rain. He was I wish I could show you all out there what he was doing. It was the most hilarious thing ever. That was fun that's not why I don't want to go to stadium shows anymore. Why I don't want to go to stadium shows anymore is because if you've ever been to the Boston Garden or probably any of these other ones to get the pitch right so you can see Everybody can see and not have obstructed view. There's about four inches to walk on in front of your chairs. Yeah. And I'm sitting there with my concert buddy. And so we're right in the middle of the middle of the middle in the front area. And I watch this woman, and this is like three songs in. Right? These tickets were the most expensive tickets that I've ever bought. They were, I won't even tell you because I'm embarrassed. Actually, I didn't buy them, my concert buddy did, but still ridiculous. You were embarrassed for him. I was embarrassed for her. So we're looking down, probably ten rows in front of us, and this heavy set woman comes up and she's talking to one of the ushers, and they're pointing this way and that way, and whatever else. So as one of his, you know, it's a third song, so it's like he's not doing anything that you don't know yet. You know what I mean? He's like still punching you in the face with the first three opening songs. She then proceeds to interrupt everybody and walk in front of them on the little parapet that you have to walk on. And again, she was not small, nothing against large people, just germane to the situation. I don't know what the Germans got to do with any of this. So she grabbed Peter Gabriel. So she's walking out and she keeps going and she keeps going. So I tap my friend, I go, she's in the aisle seat on that side.

Go to the other side.

And she went, no way. And I went, watch. And I watched this rudest human being on the planet interrupt everybody. You show up to the show late, and instead of walking around back to the concourse and coming down the other way, she interrupted everybody to get to the last fucking seat on the aisle on the other side. And I wanted to go down and punch her right in the fucking face. I don't believe it. But this is why I can't. That and the fact that nothing against weed, but everybody around me walking to the stadium or the arena or whatever you call it. I don't know what it is. The building was smoking weed in the street, and I'm like, how do you drive home after that if you're not a pot smoker anymore? And everybody's just like blowing smoke in your face. I'm like, so anyway, that's why I don't like to interact with the public because people suck.

Yes.

Um, anyway, so very, very you can edit all that out.

I just shorten it a little V. So anyway, my face might have to come out.

My number two pick was Peter Gabriel. So well done, Kev.

All right, not the lady. Let's start the wrap up with number one, my brother.

All right, um with Tesla Mechanical Resonance. Yes. And uh this album's very important to me. Uh, you have modern day cowboy on it, and David made the most incredible mixtape for me back in the 80s. And this song, um to you boys and girls out there, the the USSR was a country before it became Russia. Yes. It it's it's a song about uh possible nuclear war between the Soviet Union and the United States of America, and I just love that song. It's just so ballsy. I also love Little Susie in in particular, the guitar intro that comes into it. Just such a classy intro and just a great tune. And uh, you know, you have changes and getting better. There's no bad song on the album. No, no, great record, it's just very important to me. Yeah, I loved it. I love Tesla. That's my number one.

Nice. I'm actually trying to get tickets next week, Mark. Donnie and Kevin already cannot go. If I get them for Friday night, would you like to join me?

Tesla and Gilham.

Hampton Beach, the casino ballroom. The Hamtonian. This is what the world's coming to, folks. We used to not free ticket to a show. I don't know if I can make it. And I still can't find someone to join me.

I I alright.

You don't have to fucking say yes, brother. Okay.

Well, I just wanted to throw in with, you know, you brought up little Susie, and I just remember that song always made me feel good. It was a fact. Little Susie's on the up, and you're feeling happy. And then when they shoved Nirvana down our throat, and then everything that came, even the rock of the 90s, you're stuck with change. I didn't like it. Where's the fun? Where's the hey, like, let's let's live life and have a good time? I'm not saying you have to be inane, no, but good luck.

I'm gonna share with you how depressed I am.

Exactly. I mean, selling angst to teenagers is the easiest thing in the world. How about making somebody feel good for a minute?

Yeah, I know there's some great fucking music out there when grunge hit. I know that, but that's exactly the reason I hated it, is because I was already depressed and miserable. I've already got a fucking need.

I've already got a boot on my throat. I'm laying in the gutter. Thanks for bringing me down. Exactly. I was feeling way too happy there for a minute.

Right. So we had a my number one. Thank you, Seattle. Yeah, my number one, which is it was my number two, but it wouldn't matter. I could flip-flop these any way you slice it. And that you can't deny it. Yes, thank you. And that's Metallica Master of Puppets. Fucking incredible album. I didn't even write notes down about this one as you know it's so weird. Because I just, oh my god. Battery and Master, you know, to start the album off are just incredible. You got Welcome Home on there. Uh, the thing that shindot me, is that on there? Yes, right. Um, when we flip it over and we go to Disposable Heroes and then into Leper Messiah. I love those two songs. I mean, Disposable is just so incredibly fast. Great war song. I always love war songs, but but Lepre Messiah War. Yeah, Leper Messiah to me is just one of the hidden gems. Deep cut that I love. And I I mean, like I said, we've already talked about this ad nauseum. I mean, there's nothing like it. I mean, this is the album that took me in because first of all, when Kill Em All came out, um, I worked at the Pier restaurant at the time, and uh Chris White. Shout out to you, Chris White, out there, not a relative, but uh he worked there and was a metalhead, and I fucking hated it. Like I just couldn't get into it. You were only allowed to get into kiss at that point. Yeah, well, just that music was just too heavy for it. Thrash. They called it thrash back in the days. Yes, they did, but I just I hated it. And then For Whom, you know, uh Ride the Lightning comes out, and then you hear For Whom the Bell Tolls, and you start to hear that, and it's like you know, I'm kind of getting into this shit. And then uh Master comes out and it's like, I'm fucking sold. These guys are unbelievable. Uh, I never went back. Mrs.

Pizza loved this band.

No, that was Dio. Well, she loved Vitalica.

She loved Vitalica. Who did Mrs. Pizza? Rula.

Laconia House of Pizza. Rula. Yes, thank you. Laconia House of Pizza, baby. Mark White, Mark White special, and steak and cheese with it meant cheese. With extra mushrooms. No, steak and cheese with onions, extra mayo, and an extra roll. Donnie and I would order one with the extra roll. So we could there was so much steak on it, you could make two.

Because they would make a sandwich that, if you took a measuring tape, it would be like three inches of meat. You know.

It was too much. Awesome, Donald.

Everybody loves three inches of meat.

I knew that was.

I'm gonna take some pills to get to that point. So most places give you about an inch. You know, when you're talking of steak and cheese. I'm only kidding, Kevin. The thing was so it was not me. I'm a generous lover. It's it's every it's how I gauge every steak and cheese. Yeah, but before I get one. Because when you get one, you're like, oh, that's it. Yeah, that's all you're giving me.

Well, that and the amount of gristle.

Yes.

You have to not, I mean, there's gotta be a little bit of fat in there, but it's when you bite into it and like every bite you've got the rubber band that's pulling out all of the right, right?

It's like the worst beef, you know, bottom of the barrel.

How was the beef on Mrs.

Pete's steak?

Pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. Awesome. That's hilarious. But that's number one of you, Donald. All right, so I'm gonna go with another repeat, unfortunately, but it I have to keep it at number one Tesla. I knew it. I knew it, I knew it. That is an album that is in that echelon of the you know, the Guns N' Roses, um, Dark Side of the Moon, Def Leopard, Pyromania. You know, it's like start to finish. Every song is amazing. I love it. I love the just raw rock and roll that they had at the time, you know, because it was like glam rock and the the Metallicas and stuff, and they just came out with just rock. They weren't really glam, I didn't think they were that glam at all. Not even close. They were just rock and roll, baby. Exactly. You know, they just and they they owned it and they they did well. Yeah, and uh, you know, yeah. So I love coming at you live is is a good one for me. And uh Rock Me to the Top was one that we used to play in a band that I I loved. Rah Me Rock Saints and Center to the top, to the top.

No, that was original.

When I was with Monfett and those guys, uh that was Saint and Center. Uh we went through many names. Uh we went through Dizzy, was one of our names.

And uh what was the name of it with when you had Dirty Toys? Right.

We we started off with like uh Dirty Toys, but that was taken, so we had to like Dirty, not dangerous, but dirty. Dirty toys, right? Not dangerous toys. Um we went with Dizzy, uh yeah, we had a bunch of names, but it was fun. That was fun watching you guys. Yeah, I would go to Zach. We were great, and we just uh and the jam hole, right? That was fun classic jam hole. Um we were really good, and we just never got out there. We we just delayed getting out there, and then we had lead guitar player changes, and that kind of slowed us down.

Yeah, and the grunge would have come and swatted you in the air.

I remember then the grunge came in. The grunge, though, was a little later than that.

Like I remember no, it wasn't that much later, AJ.

Spitting up into the air and catching it in his mouth while he was doing like an amazing lead.

Yeah, that was a Zach Wilde thing, Zach. Oh, this is nasty. Oh, yeah, I guess it was right around.

Montefett used to put bras in his mouth, kind of like oh, that's acceptable. Yeah, yeah. And he's depending on what you're doing.

He's playing now. He's playing uh he's got a new band. Uh Whiting does? No, uh Monfett. Oh, nice. I want a new band. He's playing uh whiskey something. Um the new whiskey bar that's on Union Aft. Oh, nice. Yeah. Oh, he still lives up this way. Come up with the name off the top of my head. Sorry. No worries.

Yeah. All right. So one to you, Kev, to wrap it up, I believe. Oh, this is the end.

My friend the end.

So this is just I I didn't think it was gonna make it, even with this crew, but I love this album. This album was put out kind of as a joke, it's to some degree, or making fun of the people that became their fans for a while, and then they changed. It was originally, and this is not me talking, this is the band who was apologized. The original name for the album was Don't Be a Faggot. Again, not me. That was Adam Horowitz, Adam Yolk, and Mike Diamond talking, of course, about licensed to ill the beastie boys. Ah, the beastie boys. What an amazing album. I mean, and again, the fact that like Fight for Your Right to Party and and like Don't uh No Sleep Till Brooklyn was a goof on on the uh motorhead No Sleep Till Hammers. You got Kerry King from Slayer playing guitar on those two tracks because Rick Rubin was recording Slayer at the time. You can't one of the things that blows my mind because at the time we were like, you know what I mean, we didn't really see what the vision was, but it's like it was cool because there were all these parts of Zeppelin songs and there were other you know is it rap? Is it well yeah, but it was but it was the fact that so they say that it would be impossible to make that album today because you could not pay royalties to all the people that you took bits from that are in that album. You certainly couldn't use the title, right? But now you look back at it and you're like, those guys were really onto something, innovative, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and and again, the fact that they kind of started as a goof because they were a punk band to begin with, then they not good at being a punk band. Um but but then they did that, and the fact of the matter is after that album and tour, they were kind of embarrassed at what they become, you know, swilling beer on stage and women in cages and and all of that, you know, and Frat Boys, who they were making fun of, was their audience, and they all walked away from it. Like they all left and went in different directions, and there was never going to be anything after that. It was like a goof that they did and they were done, and then it was a strange turn of events, and they ended up getting back together and and making another album and then taking off and kind of realigning who they were and what they were about because they might be. I mean, obviously, they're not the frat boys, and they might have gone a little further than I would have gone as far as the apology and being, you know, I'm it's uh you know how we are here anyway, is be who you are and and whatever, and stop being butthurt about everything. They got a little butthurt about things and wanted to be, you know, hug whales and save dolphins and whatever else. But uh, but a great band, a great a great career. Sad to see Yelk gone because he was he was definitely when you see the thing that's on Apple with the the two remaining guys, it's easy to see nothing against them, but it's easy to see that Yelk was the driving force behind Beastie Boys, and those guys brought their part to it and they added to it, but without him, there's no forward movement with that right with that group. But just an amazing album, start to finish. Always love brass monkey. Yeah, brass monkey, yeah.

Hold on now, hold on now. I think Stevie Sousa and God rest his beautiful soul. I think they did the beasties in the air band. That's right. Stevie Sousa. Uh yeah, God rest him.

Yeah, but so many girls, she's crafty, um, slow ride. Girls fight for your and then there's another one that you know, like girls to wash the dishes, to do my laundry. I mean, it's like not really aligned with who they became, but aligned with today, but yeah, fuck them.

Awesome, boys. My number one, nice, nice, so that wraps it up, I believe. It's a wrap, yeah. It's a wrap. Awesome. Well, as we always say out there, everyone, thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for all of the downloads. Please check us out at past times at 80shigh.com. Email us if you would at pta80h at gmail.com. Come on and get involved and check out the socials. We're starting to get out there on some of them, getting some reels out. And uh on um Facebook, we have past times at 80s high and past timers at 80s high.

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