Best Classic Crime & Police TV Shows, Ranked

Hey y'all, welcome to Past Times at 80s High. Today we are going to do Take a Bite Out of Crime. Take a Bite Out of Crime. Woof. Is that a boy? Yes, McGruff. So what we're going to do is just uh our seven favorite shows, you know, involving crime uh involving crime, police, what have you. And of course, I have Donald here today. Hello, Donald. Hey, how you doing? Good man, Mark.

Hey, how's it going?

Lovely, and Kevin. Hey. And I'm AJ, and we are gonna kick it right off with Kevin with the honors today.

Your Honor, Your Honor. Well, because Your Honor, your offer. Never said that before. So being we do the what 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s is what we do, but we are children of the 80s. That was our time. So there was no other place I could start this with other than Miami Vice. Because it was not just the cop show of that era, it was the show of that era. It was everything the sounds, the style, the the guests, the dress code. The dress code. Absolutely. It was the end all be all. So there's there's a couple different theories of how this show came about. I kind of like the first one better. It's where uh Brandon Tardikov from NBC was like wrote a note to one of the producers like MTV cops. Yeah, that was it. That was that was it, and allegedly it went from there. There's another theory that somebody was watching or reading something about um asset forfeiture, where you know, all the all the money that the drug dealers were bringing in, and when they got caught, the asset forfeiture was the state just taking with a police force taking all those nice cars and money and gold watches and all that. So um which might have had something to do with it, but but I I prefer somebody going, MTV cops, yeah, make me a show, and and just took off with it. Um but but I mean talk about iconic. I mean, it was it it changed everything, like you said, from the clothing style to the cars that we wanted to drive.

I mean, you know, the the Tester Rosa that uh the scenery was awesome, Crockett drove the scenery from the woman to the you know.

Oh, absolutely. Um some of the interesting stuff was that uh Nick Nolte and Jeff Bridges were the original choices. Oh no, well, interesting. It would have been a way different show. Oh, hell yeah. Uh Mickey Rourke and uh Larry Wilcox from another show that might be mentioned today when there was contractual dispute with Don Johnson, they were gonna bring Mark Harmon in to fill in for his shoes, but that fortunately never happened. But I mean, what a great show. Just you know, we talked about in the air tonight last week or previous weeks. Yes. I mean, that was just what a scene. And and one of the things that they they said about it was one of the directors said that we realized it was more about you know images and feelings than characters and plot, right? Which is, you know, I mean, and that's what it was, and that's what was attractive about it. But look at where we are today, where we don't get any characters or plot, all we get is images and feelings.

So I will I will say something about that after, but what just uh when you brought up in the air tonight, the one thing I did want to say about Miami Vice, and I I don't know if it just popped up on MTV one day or what I was watching when you called it MTV Cubs. They would literally have a five-minute scene while they're just in a chase or driving down the boulevard, play an entire fucking song. It was awesome.

Yeah, they'd actually pay like most shows would not pay for a popular song, right? And and they would be it was in their budget to shell out 10 grand to play you know a big song, and then it even turned into like Glenn Fry wrote um You Belong to the City and Smuggler's Blues for the show.

Yeah, awesome.

So yeah, great, great show. I mean, just again, iconic in every way from from the opening graphics and the opening music, Jan Hammer right through to the guest stars, from Frank Zappa to um Ed Ed O'Neill from uh Bundy. Well he he wasn't on he wasn't on um Al Bundy then. He wasn't Al Bundy yet, but right Michael Richards from uh Kramer uh from Seinfeld. So I mean there was just a ton of great people on the show, musicians, actors, everything.

Awesome. Great pick.

All right, so that is to you, Brothere.

All right, well, I'm going with uh Starsky and Hutch from it ran from 75 to 79. I don't remember a lot about this show, to be honest with you, other than um Starsky was a woman, woman's man, you know. He was always with a woman, and Hutch was a more serious guy. He was played by David Sowell and Paul Michael played uh Paul Michael Glazer played Starsky. And uh the thing about this show that I truly is important to me is the fact that they drove my very first car. Yes, they had a grand Torino on that show. And oh my god, this friggin' car. I got one memory of that kind of thing. Well, I have a bad one. Um I was with uh the Wixens and a couple other people, and uh Yeah, one of the guys uh we had a case of beer. Yeah, he he got the beer out, but he did not he dropped the keys in said trunk, and I had to call dad. And he knew exactly what was in there, and I had to admit to it. So yeah, that was a bad memory, but but yeah, I mean, yeah, they these guys were really cool, you know.

Well, better than calling the police, right?

Well, oh yeah, well, I guess technically I could have what yeah, but then they would have found the beer in the air, they would have suspected it.

I just remember when you and dad came home with that car for the first time and pulled up in front of the house and mom saying, What did you friggin' do?

Oh, this thing was horrible in the snow. I was driving to work when I was a page at the state house and coming down Guildford Avenue and it was snowing, and my friggin' car turned into traffic and miraculously faced the other way in the breakdown lane, and I ended up driving home.

Can I please take your car, Mom?

Rear wheel drive of a new hampshire.

Yeah, and I'm sure the tires had tons of tread, and that damn thing broke down every three weeks. Every three weeks. And it was a get it was 1982, guys. And that damn thing was a 75. If you bought a car now, that would make it a 2018 car, which would be the newest vehicle I've ever had. But he paid like 75 for it. Well, yeah, I'm just I remember that story. Um well, the next car was a Ford Fairmont, which was about as boring of a car as you can ever think of.

That was the first car I drove when I got my license. Awesome pick though.

All right, well, thank you. Hopefully, somebody brings the show up and and remembers more than I do.

Well, I just I just remember that I I have a hard time in my memory, not the shows, but the characters, because Dukes of Hazard, you know what I mean? It was Paul Michael Glazer and then David Sowell. What the hell is his name? Was it the same guy? No. What was the guy? Schneider. Was there a yeah, John Schneider?

John, I know, not Rob from Saturday Night. That's I say, oh no, we suck again. You can't do it, man. Awesome pick, Delmark. Um, my first one, I'm going with 21 Jump Street. 21 Jump Street. This one to me just it had special meaning because I mean, first of all, I was a kid to have these young cops, you know, infiltrating high schools, so to speak. You know, it was really cool just to see them go in and, you know, trying to find the new drug of the day and find where it's coming from. And I mean, I I did actually watch like half of the first season pretty recently, Johnny Depp's first gig, isn't it? Or at least first television show.

It was on that, yeah. After Nightmare on Elm Street, I think was his first actual it was his movie, yep.

First movie. And then what was Deloise's kid there too, was on it. But great, great show, though. It was a lot of fun. And the um I forget who played the chief that was at 21 Jump Street, you know, that because they were in like a dilapidated building, but it was just awesome. He was a bitter prick, and it was a lot of fun. Anyway, so that's off to you, Donald.

All right. So I'm gonna go with one just for the theme song, and it's Hawaii 501. One of the greatest theme songs for any show. Was the wave was it a wave? Like I can always see a wave. Yeah. But I just remember Jack Lord being like the quintessential cop. Like he's a he's a you know, he played the role perfectly, but I really picked it just for the theme song.

Whatever, whatever.

It's probably the greatest. One of the greatest theme songs for a TV show, you know. Awesome.

Which should be an episode of a TV theme show.

That's a good thing. We could even do that.

I can't remember. Um, yeah, but you know, and and think about it.

Bookum Dano was yeah, oh yeah, classic uh pop. Yeah, yeah.

That and five-o.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, people uh all the way back to vanilla ice uh referring to you know the five-o. The five-o. Right. I think he was talking about his Mustang, but what is the actual meaning of five-o?

Does Do we know? Like police. Oh police. Well, it's like a special unit, so right. But was it police, Mark, before Hawaii 5.0?

Okay, Kev. Back to me again. All right, well, um, so yeah, speaking of great theme songs, and I just saw Dweezel Zappa, Frank Zappa's kid, and they actually played him onto the stage with the Night Rider theme. Oh, great theme song that's a good one. What a great theme song that was. Obviously, uh David Hasselhoff was Lieutenant Mike Arthur Long, who was shot in the face and almost died, and then Night Industries brought him back to life, gave him a new face, and a brand new Trans Am.

Yes.

And and again, I think we have some you know pretty fuzzy memories about these shows because of where we were either younger with some of the earlier ones and like some of the older ones, like you were talking about 21 Jump Street. I'm pretty sure I was partying by that time. I don't think I ever saw that until this year. 21 Jump Street. I honestly think I was already out in the woods with a bonfire, and statute limitations is up. But anyway, um, one of the things that I really remembered about that that struck me is is that Transam. That was the new 82 model of Transam. Yeah, and they said they spent $100,000. I was like, what? To put a Cylon light in the beginning of the change the dashboard, and it was only the hero car that had the dashboard, and I guess they lowered it a little bit or whatever else. But I was like, where'd they spend a hundred thousand on that?

The robot built in.

Oh yeah, they said the guy the guy driving when when you saw it driving itself, it was the actual stunt driver who was behind the front seat, reaching up underneath to the steering wheel. So that's why you never saw any long scenes of it driving kit driving by himself. Oh, right, because it was pretty uncomfortable for the for the guy, and they hadn't figured out remote control yet. But um, but the amazing thing was was that Transam had just had a huge run with Smokey and Abandon. Yeah, the 80s version, the the second uh version of of the Transam, it was huge, it was every it's still huge, and then they went right into um Night Rider with with the new model. It was just kind of interesting that somebody was one car manufacturer was so prevalent.

I don't know why it clicked with me, but when you said smoky, I just had to say when I get home, I'm gonna punch your mother right in the ovary.

You some bitch. Some what is it? Sun bitch? Is that how some bitch? Some bitch. There's no of.

It's just I'm gonna barbecue your ass in molasses.

I don't know if you remember, AJ, but I had a second job when I was working at the state back in 95 at that little market down the street. Yep. And boy, that extra money helped. I was so depressed when I lost that job. But no, but anyway, that I this is my first year. This is when you were going to a lot of the games too, that I had season tickets. And I'd worked I worked every Saturday morning. There was a TV there, and every I mean I worked till one, and every day at twelve, here comes uh Night Rider. Nice, and and that I loved that song. It just went, okay, one more hour, and then like have fun today, then I go to the game tomorrow. It's just and you got to watch TV for an hour, right? Well, no, the TV was on all the whole time. But so am I going to number six now?

Sure indeed, brother.

I'm going with early law and order. I didn't realize that uh the show ran from 1990 to 2010 and they started it later again. They and so many spin-offs, too, right? Oh yeah. And the thing is, is well, today's show is probably unwatchable unless unless you're uh you know, woke. I mean, I'll I'll use the damn word woke, okay? Back in the day, I used to watch it every single week. I absolutely loved the show. And I'm probably gonna get Marky Bunkered on a couple of these names. Michael Mori. M-O-R-I-A-T-Y. How do you pronounce that? Moriorty. And then you have uh George De Zunzen. Okay. This is Z. And well, you know, it was just such a great show. And I I this is not in the happiest times of my life. And I would come home and I guess it was David's bedroom at one point. You know, in the winter Well Schaefer, whatever, and then the the refrigerator was the windowsill. And and you know, you talk about theme songs, but Michael, I mean, okay, but Ben Stone, his character was my favorite character on this show. And it the original theme song is even better than the the uh newer ones.

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.

Alright. Nice though. So to me, and this one I actually do have vague memories about. I mean, can I tell you an episode at this juncture? Probably not, but it's called Hardcastle and McCormick. Oh my god. And this is an older judge that's about to retire. It's actually his last defendant that joins him. And what they do is they go back to solve old cases where they feel like, you know, things may someone may have been wrongfully accused and whatnot. But definitely a crime dra crime drama, a lot of fun. I can remember it. I always thought the younger guy was really cool in it. I didn't write his name down, but it was just it the the old man was not he wasn't that old, I guess, back in the day, but to me he was. Oh, he is 30. No god no.

It was Brian Keith from Family Affair.

Well, was it but yeah, he was just a lot of fun. Like I I I just remember the one in the opening. I always remember he would be shooting a target with his pistol, the the the older guy, and couldn't hit it, and he gives it to the criminal, of course, and he's banging right away in the center. But it was a great show. Um, did do you guys any of you guys remember that one? I loved it very vaguely.

Yeah, no, not even vaguely. Oh no.

Well, look it up, brother. But that's my pick. So off to you. 83 to 86. Yeah, so three. Yeah, yep.

I'll just do a repeat um because Law and Orders is a huge show. Yes, um, huge show for me. I mean, it's it's been going on since September 13th, 1990. Um, it's been 24 seasons, 537 episodes. Like you said, there's a lot of spin-offs from it. What I wish they would do is do the you know assistant district attorney calendar with all the you know the hotties that they had for the ADAs. Um, Angie Harmon was probably my favorite. Um, but Elena De la Garza was really good. Jill Hennessy. Um, just pretty, pretty women always hot for the ADAs, but also I love the actors. Um, you know, they had uh Fred Thompson, who was a you know former politician. He was TA, he was awesome. Uh Sam Waterson was awesome, Jerry Orbach was great. I mean, just good, like good shows, and it's always like ripped from the headlines. Yes. So a lot of the show themes and storylines are kind of pulled from the headlines, they kind of recreated, which was cool. And then if you ever went into a firehouse, you know, that was kind of playing, you know, in the afternoon, it's kind of like nap time kind of thing. It's just the memory of watching that show. Nice.

Uh but anyway, to you, Kev.

Back to me. Good luck. Back to you. Back to me. Well, then I I gotta go with Ponch and John. Yeah. I mean, chips was was the shit. One of the ones that I do remember watching when I was young. I think it was on early enough. What's the I stand for? It's just it's just shoved in there. I know. I think that's what it is. They put the little I in there. That's all. Just the little I.

Wait, California Highway Patrol.

I California Highway Patrol, and they just put the chip because if they call if they called the show chips and put out CHP, people will be like, huh?

Yeah.

Again, I mean, just iconic. You know, Poncharello was the man. Everybody wanted to be him. He like took over where uh Henry Winkler left off as as the Fawns. He was kind of like the new cool guy. He was always he always had a hot date. With his short shorts, with his short shorts, yes. And then you had Grossy, uh Grossman, and and uh uh Pine was the captain who was always just loved him great character. And then again, once they got into some contract disputes, there was three episodes in in the fifth season, I think, where Erica Strawa Straud couldn't come in, so they had uh Officer Steve. Steve McLeish, who was oddly enough, played by this woman, uh Caitlin. Uh Jenner. I'm sitting there and I'm and I'm reading through it, and it's like, yeah, I remember Bruce Jenner being on there. It was like in the IMDB, it said, and Officer Steve McLeish was played by Caitlin Jenner. I'm like, my brain just kind of like, wait a second. Oh, oh, okay. All right. But just, I mean, at that age, what said that was 77 to 83. Yeah. So watching two dudes fly around on motorcycles, which they never did, by the way. The highway patrol never ran in pairs. Right. There was there was always it was one one guy on a bike. There was never two. And and um they just they wrote it off as he was Ponch was on probation. Uh so John was like his probation officer as a cop. Whatever. Yeah, just a great show. Yeah. Right. Fun show when you were a kid for sure.

Yeah.

Could come up again. If it comes up again, that's why I'm not gonna say what I'm gonna say, but if it does, I'll say it. All right. A certain episode. So to you, brother. All right, I'm going with Adam 12.

One Adam 12, one Adam 12, 21 in Prometheus. One Adam 12, handle code 3.

1958, 1975. This is a rare crime drama show, whatever you want to call it, that was uh only a half hour long. Um, you had uh a couple of cops, one was a rookie, and it was just uh I really enjoyed it as a child. I mean, and I I do remember two episodes even to this day from memory. One of them was uh a situation where they were in some guy's apartment and they the guy had a parent. The parrot kept saying, Come with a pig, get him with a pig. And there was another episode where uh it was uh an Asian couple and they sprinted across the crosswalk at at you know there was a light and it said don't walk. And they said, Oh, it said don't walk, so we run. I just remember that. But it was a great I I love this show.

I mean, I love the show just from you and Dave. Like that's a memory of you guys watching it. Yeah, one Adam 12. One Adam 12. The other cool thing about the show is it was I mean, you of course it wasn't real time, but it was basically every episode was just their day in their car and the calls that were coming in. You know what I mean?

Right, it was a good everyday cop yeah show it was considered one of the most realistic cop shows out there, from what I understand. So yeah, so yeah, that's that was that was great fun as a child to me.

Awesome.

Right more of those, don't you worry about that.

I don't know where I'm going here, but I just remember loving this show, and yes, it's detective-based or PI-based, not necessarily police, but it's moonlighting. I loved this show back in the day. Bruce Willis, Sybil Shepherd, just the way they played off each other. Bruce Willis, I think that's still one of his greatest roles of all time. He was just such a smart ass, sarcastic. They were just they worked really, really good together. It's funny because I never found her hot. Like I remember people always thinking she was super hot, and she never did it for me. I don't know why, but she was cool and sexy still, but kind of the get to know you girl. Once you get to know her, you find her attractive.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I think she saw it. Were you more into Booger's girlfriend?

I can't remember her name, but the little mousey thing with the I don't remember, but yeah, I just remember that about Sybil Shepherd, because everyone was like, Oh, did you see that last night?

They didn't get along in real life, I guess. They didn't like each other at all.

Really? I didn't know they barely got along in the show.

Yeah, well, the banter was I mean, yeah, the tension and the banter was was the best part of the show. Oh, absolutely. That was the key key thing. That's what made it great. But didn't see that one coming, AJ. Nice pick.

Yeah, thank you. I didn't see it coming either. I liked it. Liked it a lot. Well, you're definitely not gonna see my next one. But anyway, probably not to you, Dongo. All right, good.

So I'm gonna go with this. This is a terrible, terrible show, uh, terrible acting. But but I used to watch it all the time, and I enjoyed it. I'm excited. And it's TJ Hooker. Yes, because I love William Shatner. Of course. I know he's a terrible actor, but I love it. I love his terrible acting. I don't understand the scratch list.

What you mean? Exactly.

Yeah, what you say, what you mean.

Because if someone's gonna overact, he does it to the to the like Emmy Award winning uh level, which is perfect. And um, it came March 13th, 1982, so I was 10 years old, and hit me just at the right time with Heather Locklear being one of the most beautiful women on the planet, and uh that I loved it. Um, I also like Adrian Zemed, I think he's a really good actor. Yeah, um, I don't know if he was just dropped off.

Was it a partner?

Yeah, yeah. He's like a you know, handsome guy. Um, he was in Bachelor Party, really good comedic kind of actor. Yeah, like I liked him. Um he just kind of fell off. Yeah. Um, but one of my favorite things in that was um, I don't remember any no episode like sticks out to me, but the how he would uh William Shatner was a master of the PR24, which is the baton, and how he would like throw it like a tomahawk at people and knock them down, right? Yeah, yeah. He was like a master ninja with the baton, yeah. With the nightstick, yeah. Yeah, well, a nightstick is straight, right? Just to stick, and then the the PR24 has like the handle, which you could use as like there's technique.

Well, that's what we called it in the ah, see that's what I thought the nightstick was that had the handle, so you could like have it going down your forearm.

Yeah, I'm not a hundred percent. I just remember uh in the Navy we called it the PR24, which the military does name things like a beretta handgun is called an M9, so it's like they do name things differently, but to discipline you and red ass to learn more, but you know, the classic Billy Club is just like a straight stick, and I I would need to do some research as why they call it Billy Club, but from the head was Billy.

Exactly. First guy that lost part of his cranium to it.

And you're not supposed to Billy for anyone out there, if you're you know non-lethal force, you're supposed to go to the meat areas of the body, you're not supposed to go to the head or vital organs, you're supposed to go to like the thigh and the and the shoulders and those kinds of things. I'm sure they follow those rules.

There's a thing of what is it called? They advertise it all the time. It's like a bear spray, it's like it usually work.

Well, no, I don't know. Mace is considered like a chemical weapon now, which is weird, but you know, she's the pepper sprays. It's probably the same thing, Mark. Yeah, like just the blind spray is probably really concentrated, you know.

If you ever get attacked by a bear, really piss it off and spray it with this. Now he's blind and angry and in pain. That's awesome. Don't they go by scent?

Right, they're gonna find you. Well, it's all I think all of it is uh you know, like call it OC spray. It's it's all capsaicin, it's it's all pepper sauce.

It's supposed to be a deterrent without killing anybody, but I mean I don't problem is it ends up getting you know you as well if you don't be careful with it. Yeah, right.

Just right, all it needs to be is jalapeno or banero at me. I always touch my eye and forget it, and I'm like great pick, Donald. To you, Kevin.

All right, well, this one I am excited about because I love this show, and I've actually been watching it lately on one of the old people networks that shows the old thing, and that's James Garner in Rockford Files. Oh yeah, freaking fantastic. I just love that sort of theme song. 74 to 80. Yeah, it's a great theme song. A great story. I mean, he has Gardner always had that little bit of humor going on. You know, he lived in that nasty trailer that was like, you know, it was it was in the parking lot of a seafood restaurant on the beach.

At least he was on the beach.

Yeah, at least it would in what world though would somebody with a seafood restaurant be park that nasty thing on the far end of my parking lot. That's that's sure to bring in more customers.

Was he a motivational speaker?

Have an occasional shootout in front of it. That'll do good for my restaurant as well. But no, he was he was uh and it always looked bigger inside, you know. What once you got in, he had that nice desk in the living room and whatever else. It didn't it didn't feel like a trailer on the inside, certainly not as nasty as it looked on the outside. But you know, he he had his firebird, he had his gold, his gold firebird, did a lot of J slides with it that was kind of incorporated into the show. You had Angel, his his curly-headed buddy there that was always in trouble, and then uh Dennis, the cop that he was always working with, his his attorney, I felt back in the day was kind of hot, and just like it's just a well-done show for its era, although it might have been fairly predictable, probably not the greatest fight scenes or shootings or or or car chases, but choreographed stuff, yeah. Not the best choreography, but still just a memorable show and a great and great fun.

Nice. Now, was James Garner the original Maverick, right? Am I correct? Yes, because I I never really watched that show, but I when I lived in Santa Barbara, I got really down for like a week. And Maverick was playing at the movie theater with Mel Gibson. I went like five days in a row. James Garner was like his dad in it. You don't know that till the end till the end. Spoiler alert for a 30-year-old movie. But he's fucking awesome, he's such an amazing actor.

He kicked from the war movies to Maverick to and that was actually the the producer came up with the idea for Rockford Files because great voice, too. Yes, because he wanted to do like a modern day version of Maverick. That was that was the idea.

Awesome. Great pick though, Kev.

All right, Mark. Uh yes, I'm going with Miami Vice. Uh Kevin's first pick today. And uh I I just watched uh episode two. I mean, I beg your pardon, season two, episode thirteen with my uncle, Ted Nugent. Yes. Yeah, and he he was definitely uh not a nice guy in this show. And uh I don't remember that. I gotta look that one up. Yeah, well, I'm gonna give you a list of musicians, and this is uh only a brief one. Little Richard was on it, Phil Collins, Frank Zappa, Willie Nelson, Jackson Brown, Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons.

Yeah, Kevin mentioned Zappa.

Yeah, awesome. Yeah, Gene was on it, and they're they're usually drug dealers, right? I mean, when they're on the show and yeah, this is back in the the 80s, just it was such a quint God, I'm gonna Archie Bunker Marky Bunker again.

Quintessential proven fact that capital punishment is a well-known detergent to crime. Quintessential quint quintal saying quintessential.

Now I'm fucking it up.

It just was quintessential eighties. It was wonderful. I did it. But oh my god, the babes on that show were just yeah, oh my good Gideon. I used to I used to wear that stupid white jacket that Don Johnson wore, you know.

And uh but that's when you started nailing the girls. Well, that's true, yeah. That's right. Yeah, that's when you started picking up the girls.

Exactly. And uh, well, anyway, if they just had a lot of musicians. That episode with Phil Collins, I I definitely remember in with Gene and Phil Collins in it or just a song?

No, he was in it. Yeah, so how was Uncle Ted as an actor? Because I don't remember.

He's not they didn't give him a ton of lines, but he was great, I thought.

I'm gonna watch that tonight, I think. Yeah, he's actually pretty good.

It costs I think it was an episode of Rockford Files that he was on or something that I saw recently, and like all he did was walk in and then throw somebody out of a room. He was like he was a rock star and he was like an extra. Yeah.

Well, it just goes to show how things back in the 80s weren't so uh divided, you know. Uh somebody like Ted Nugent would not be allowed on any of these shows today. Hell no, not a single one.

All right, so that's number four to me. And this one, I'm gonna be fully transparent. I wish I could remember more episodes from this and actually tell a story about the show. But this just has so much meaning to me, and you all might say it's not a crime drama, but to me it is, and that is murder she wrote that is a crime drama.

That is absolutely a crime drama.

Loved this show. Angela Lansberry was awesome in it, and the the real the reason I picked this though is just watching it with my mom. I did too, AJ.

I remember watching it with both of you.

Yeah, just a great show. So it was an incredible. She was a writer, right? Like she an author, and I don't I I can't remember exactly how they incorporated that in, but like some of her stories would tie into it. You know what I mean? But it makes me think of my mom hanging out with her, lying down in her bed with her at night, and just cuddling my mummy to hang out with her and just eat snacks in her bed with her and watch these shows.

You know, it's it's funny, AJ, that you bring up Murder She Wrote because I never liked Murder She Wrote. Oh, and I would have gone with Monk, which was the same show, but with with Tony Shaloube.

I mean, literally, if you're that's my one of my dad's favorite shows.

I love Monk.

And you mean Monk is awesome.

Huh?

Do you mean Monk? Great show. Monk. Monk, monk, monk, monk, like just like the guy that wears the long brown robe. Monk.

Friar Tuck? No, I just I think it was I think it was because of um Manchurian candidate with Angela Lansbury, and I just she was played such an evil witch in that that I just never funny how you can associate. But a character's that good, you just you know, you understand it's not the actress, it's it's her skill. But I just didn't like her ever because of that movie that I saw her in. So I just never liked her in that. But again, they remade it as monk, and it was to me hilarious. It just doesn't fit in our time frame. Um, but at some point, I always wondered in both those shows if you lived in the small town that they came to visit, I would leave.

Because somebody always died when I came to visit that small town. The population of 308. And someone dies every day.

So they got like a less than a year and everyone's gone.

Right. Oh man. Angel Landsbury's coming. I'm out of here, dude.

All right, so that's to you, Donald.

Cool. I'm gonna go with a show that I did watch this very regularly, and I loved it because it was just fun. It was just good, wholesome fun, and it's Simon and Simon. Simon and Rick Simon, and AJ's like the clean-cut, good guy, you know, like clean, all American, and Rick's like the little, you know, he's a little flawed character, Vietnam veteran. Right, right. And they just played off each other very well. And they I think they did they live with their mom, or I can't remember that, but um, their mom was pivotal in the show, too. But I love Gerald Mc McRainey, who plays Rick Simon, he's an awesome actor. Um, he just and and in that show he was funny, like he always had like witty humor. Yes. And uh there was Tim Reed who was on WKRP, he was he was in that show, and they just had fun episodes. I mean, incredible not like groundbreaking cinema, but they were just fun and funny, and they had a lot of like cool events that they did. It was yeah, I liked it.

Yeah, that was on my scratch, and yeah, it was one of my audibles, too. If I needed it, yeah. What did he do?

Incredible show. Yeah, super yeah, it was just good entertainment.

Yeah, didn't McRaine end up marrying Delta Burke? Really? I think he did. I think he did from the designing women and others.

Oh this is definitely an episode where I think we might have to go through some honorable spots. Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, yeah, but we'll get there because we're still at three, right? So we are at three. So that's to you then Kev. Great pick, Donnie.

Yes, Don. All right. Well, I'm gonna go with um Adam 12, one Adam 12. To me, it was it might not have been the first cop show, but it was as far as the police procedural show, the way that they dubbed them. I honestly one of the best, like you guys talked about before. It wasn't all like every every minute of every episode wasn't a 400-car pile-up or a shooting. Right. There was there was, you know, we had a little drug overdose here, we had a little bit of you know, a traffic violation here, we had, you know, they did a little bit of everything. And um just just well done. It's amazing when you watch those old shows that there was like people interacting without music in the background. It was just dialogue, so they had to write stuff for people to say, like actual actual dialogue, and and it was fun. And that was uh that was produced by Jack Webb and and Mark Seven Productions, um, who did a ton, a ton of of those shows, including Emergency and one other one that I won't name because it probably I know what you want you're talking about too.

Well, that's why I like Adam 12, as they had the crossover to emergency.

Oh, yeah, same production company, and that was and and that was and I know that Mark talked about police and fire show, but I honestly and I loved, and I think we all loved emergency, but I can't think of anything from that era. Black tape. Did anybody else run into anything from that era that was like based on EMTs or or fire? I know there's tons of them now.

Well, there was a show called Firehouse.

I mean, that's the OG for the but there's one show, and I wonder if it's the same one you're thinking of, Kev, that you didn't want to mention that I could not find. Like it wouldn't pop up in anything I researched. I I have a feeling it's gonna be on Mark's list, but I won't say a word till we get to something to uh figure out as we go along.

Yes, indeed.

So if it's if that's what if if I think what you're thinking about, um don't say it's honorable, but yeah, I'm not gonna say it. It's about the hair. Don't say it. All right, brother, to you. All right, I'm going with a fantastic show called The Rookies. There were three guys on it. I did watch an episode last night because again, this show ran from 72 to 76. So you're talking when I'm eight, eight to twelve years old. So I mean, anyway, I did watch an episode on YouTube. You can get every TV show right here on this very computer that I'm speaking to you from. I watched an episode last night, just picked a random show, and uh it was an episode where there's gangs, and they really wanted to kind of tough love these guys, and it worked. You know, there's three guys, they have meetings with the uh the boss. Every they always have a meeting, the guy's on the chalkboard, and at the end of said episode, I mean the the leader, the police chief, he was uh you know, he was getting a little worried about them doing this. They were off duty and everything on most of that. And uh they got called to the office at the end, and he's they thought they were in trouble, and they he's basically listen, guys, I need you to go down to blah blah blah because there's something going down, and they smiled and it was just I mean, and it w there was an episode, a great, fantastic episode that's on the uh opening, you know, with a great theme song. Fantastic. And uh something was going on in a stadium, and this is very vague to me, but there were probably a hundred police cars that went into the stadium. I mean, I think it might have been a hostage situation, whatever. I mean, I'm sure I can find it and uh you know on YouTube, but I just adored this show as a absolutely loved it. I loved it.

I'll tell you what, I I have no recollection of it, but just looking through, and they had some pretty good guest stars on there, as well as Kate Jackson.

Oh, Kate Jackson was a regular.

She was in 90 two episodes. Caitlin, Caitlin Jenner. Um Kine Daly was was uh a guest on four episodes, the guy that played big not not Jeff Bridges, but the other Lebowski the the real Lebowski. No, you're you're the Lebowski, I'm the dude. Um, and who else did I just see that was in it? So I mean some good people, some people that oh Kath Katherine Hellman from uh Who's the Boss? Nice was in two episodes. So I just love that. I love those old shows. You know, again, we talked a lot about Miami Vice and Law and Order. Definitely had a lot of you know, people that either on the downswing of their career or on the upswing were on it, and that's what makes those old shows.

No one in the middle, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. No, nobody was at their peak uh as a guest star, but uh Jonathan Goldsmith did two episodes, the most interesting man in the world. Nice did two two episodes of that show. So and that O'Toole, one of my favorites.

Now is that the guy from the uh Dal Sekki's commercials?

That's correct. Del Seckies? Yeah.

Did I say it right? No, it's close.

I gotta go to the turret right now. So yes. Anyway, um, great pick, though. I the reason I asked if it was the rookie is I did see rookie when I was researching this stuff, so I didn't know if that was a show called The Rookie, yes. I don't know anything about that one. Awesome. All right, so that's number three to me. And this show I just remember loving. Okay, it's a bit racy. Well, when I say racy, I'll get there. And it's with Carol O'Connor, and it's called In the Heat of the Night. Oh, yeah, Deep South Town. And when I say racy, I mean racist, like lots, not in the IG Bunker way, but like the IG Bunker was not a racist. No, but no, I know, but my point is he was a super racist, right? But all right, so it was, but you know, he's the chief in this small town. You know, he has his crew, his officers underneath him. One of them's I I forget his name, he's a black guy. They always dealt with very deep race issues because they're in the south. It's just a fucking incredible show, and Carol O'Connor is just incredible in anything he does, of course. Yep. I just remember loving this show very deeply, and I will throw the towel to you, Donald.

All right, based on the '67 movie of the same name with uh Rod Steiger and and uh I saw that too. Sidney Poitier.

Poitiers, yes.

Poitiers.

Great actor. I'm just so I'm gonna go with uh Quincy. Yes, he was a um medical examiner who would, you know, solve crimes by digging through the body. And I love Jack Klugman, he's a great actor. Very poignant to today with the Karen Reed trial. Uh yeah, yeah. You know, that's which I don't know about. Oh my god, it's like on certain social media, like TikTok is like engrossed with Karen Reed trials. Ali Car is too. Will you tell me what she did? Huge. Well, she allegedly like backed into her boyfriend. This is a lot of like people uh like are diving into this and like self-sleuthing it and self-uh. Did she kill him? Well, we don't know. Like there's so many layers of nuance. But he's dead. He's dead. Okay, then he died. That's what I mean. So there is a dead body, and the reason why I bring up the medical examiner is the medical examiner got grilled on cross-examination the other day. I the dude, so I can't go into this, you know. People on the internet that are watching this and following it, people follow this intently, and it's like, is it a conspiracy? Like there's some people say he so he died outside, and the and the trial is Karen Reed is the girlfriend of the the man who died, who's a Boston police officer. Supposedly she backed into him, and he either the car killed him or he was incapacitated to the point where he was outside in the cold and he died from the elements. But there's like some people are saying there was a jealous, um uh not a jealous boyfriend, but uh you know, another man who liked her was at this, like it was a house party, and I can't even get into all the layers, but a dog might have killed the guy. God, where can I see this? That was like like I have no cable people-friendly on TV every day.

I can't. I don't have cable.

There might have been a fight, you know, inside the house that she wasn't there. So a lot of people are saying they're framing her to cover up a murder that occurred in the house, and it's just it's like it's got legs going all different directions. It's it's amazing.

Um the good the the blessing and the curse of social media, and I will say, and going down a rabbit hole now, and I apologize the blessing and the curse of social media because I'm sure a lot of people can help you know with their input with solving things, but they can also be the opposite and fuck everything up.

Oh, there's so much, I mean it. This is another thing that's about it is it it's already in a retrial. Like there was a trial and it hung jury, like it's already in a retrial, and there's so many little bits of evidence that people on the internet are like sleuthing, and you know, there was a broken tail light, and some guy's like, Oh, there's no way that a you know, whatever type of car she had, it would take this amount of force to break the break the tail light, and yeah, the injuries weren't consistent with getting hit by a car, and it's just oh my god, it's crazy. That it reminded me of Quincy. So meet stuff.

Great show, too. I mean, Jack Klugman, amazing. I know Mark loves that show, incredible. But anyway, we will go.

Oh well, can I just say one other thing on the testimony? Uh, she does uh the forensic woman. I she said that uh she's not even sure there was a murder.

Well, right, that's whole split. It was like a snowy evening, there was a blizzard. He might have just got out of the car, slipped, hit his head, and and died, passed out and died, and then a dog ate him. Right, right. Right, right. The dog probably went out to take a piss and like, what's this? And like started tugging on him, you know. Who knows? Nobody knows. But the thing is, you know, I don't think she intended to kill him. Maybe she hit him, who knows? But they can't prove it. So in a court of law, I would say there's not enough evidence to convict her of involuntary manslaughter or whatever they're charging her with.

Yeah, there was like there was like one guilty verdict, or I'm not even sure how they that came out, but it was like 11 to 1 at the best.

Yeah, yeah, there's just not enough evidence to say that she did it. Let's finish the show and then we can talk about this.

All right. That's an awesome pick, Don. So Kevin, we're off to you.

Well, oddly enough, my number two pick is Jack Klugman is Quincy.

Ah, nice.

Uh, again, one of the ones that I always love, but I've been watching lately because it's been on the old people channel that I've been watching. Uh what is the old people channel? Me TV, right? This not me TV. This one is Get TV, Great Entertainment Television, um, which is, I think, identical format to Me TV. Um, the only thing different is it's on whatever the stuff you get, the the app thing that you get. Right. And they have like a bumper and they play it like nine times because they don't have enough advertising. So they'd be like three ads, and they go to this bumper and it runs through like I was so angry that I literally sent them the old man email and and finished it. I'm like, why? You make me want to change the channel, it's so terrible to have to listen to it nine times. Literally, I counted it nine times in a row. They play the same little music piece and and bumper, and it's like, do you not want me to watch you? You could do silence would be better anyway. I finished Silencia. Yeah, I finished the email with get off my lawn. But anyway, Quincy was was such a great show, and it was it was one of those things I it was in my I mean so 76, 76, 78 to 83.

Right.

Um it was I was young enough to to have to shift my brain to figure out why Oscar from Odd Couple, how did he go from being a dirty sports writer to being a medical writer?

This is exactly Mark said this precisely in the other one. So it's so funny how we're all on the same page. Oh, absolutely.

When you're a kid, you don't you don't know, you know what I mean? It's like dude was just smoking a cigar and getting mustard on everything, and and now he's dissecting the city.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, but he was always they it had a lot of these, you know, the cop show things. Like he always it was always him disagreeing with what everybody else thought, and he had to go in and fight with his boss, and he'd fight with the local cop, and then eventually he would prove them all wrong after he went well beyond what any medical examiner, you know what I mean? He was out in the field, he was interviewing people, he was threatening people. It's like I'm pretty sure the the medical examiner doesn't leave right. He's not the detective, no, he just he stays right there in the in the operating room with the dead bodies and and puts things in test tubes and whatever else. He's not out there, you know, arguing with people. But uh, and then there was a famous episode called Next Stop Nowhere, because in the later episodes they got really preachy and started talking about global warming and and all these different, you know, little pet projects and and social things, um which came to a head with next yeah, which came to a head with Next Stop Nowhere, which was the punk rock um episode where they had a kid died at a punk rock show, and Quincy determines that it was it was about the punk rock and the terrible music they were listening to, not the ice pick that the guy stabbed him in the back with. It was it was it was the attitude of punk rock music that led to the kid's death, and he was gonna get to the bottom of it. And he like at one point he's in the dirty club where the where the punk rockers are, and he gets up on stage and makes a speech, and it's like and and and the other thing that was really cool about that episode is if you guys ever watched The Office, uh Michael's girlfriend Jan was in that show. She was Abigail, she was so neat. Yeah, she was the girlfriend of the guy that got stabbed with the ice pick, was led astray by punk rock, anyway. Uh but cool to see her in a in that role back in the 80s.

I want to get into a punk rock conversation, but I'm not going down any more rabbit holes today. So anyway, awesome pick though to you, Mark. Oh, guess who I'm picking? I knew that's what I was gonna say. Go ahead.

Quincy Emmy. Yeah, um, an unsung uh great character on this show, seeing that it's been picked twice, was Lieutenant Monahan. He was always aggravated with Quincy big time. So was oh it's Robert Ito, whatever Sam. Yeah, oh Sam Fujiami. Yeah, he was great. And uh anyway, it he like you said, Kevin, he always had issues with they nobody believed him. Like, can we just get past this kind of shit, you know? And uh and I I just remember uh a fond memory of mine is when I worked at the summit back in I believe it was 1985. It was me, brother David, Lee Smith, and I think Big Al. We went up to the pool, of course. We were drinking, believe it or not. And I kept we kept reliving the uh gentlemen, you're about to enter the most fascinating sphere of police work. Yeah, the world of forensic medicine. And we all started yakking and falling over. But it it was uh I I just loved that show, enjoyed it every damn time.

I knew it was on your list, and that's what I was gonna say.

And then my cousin John Simon used to say Quincy always gets his man.

Yeah, exactly. Awesome. All right. So to me, this one, I talked about murder she wrote, you know, something special to me with my mom. And our mom. Sorry, sorry, say mother, you know what I mean. This one makes me think of my dad, and I actually have an honorable that makes me think of my dad. I think I know what it is. I know there's two of them, so maybe you're thinking of the wrong one, but I have to go with Hill Street Blues. That's what I was thinking about, but just the incredible acting. What I really loved about it is how nitty, gritty, and dirty they got. You just didn't see a lot of that back then. They tackled issues that were more real. Yes, it was really more about the the precinct than you know the actual crime sometimes. I don't know. I I can't I always thought it was Roy Schneider, but it's not. I can never think of the guy's name that the main character, yeah, Daniel J.

Travante.

Yeah, but for some reason very mild-mannered.

He was like Does he look like Roy Schneider? Because he certainly does. Okay, because I always thought that, but yeah, yeah, that's him. I always thought that back in the day, but it was just such a fucking great show, and it's one of the ones out of a few that my father really loved.

He loved it.

All right, Donald, so do you. So I'm gonna go with a show that was very uh endearing to me because of my parents loved it, my father loved it, and it was on all the time when I was growing up, and that's Barney Miller. Yes, yes. But they they did nail the interpersonal relationships between the characters and that and the criminals, too, the best cast. Like the the casting for that show was just top-notch. Incredible. Abe Vagoda is so good. I mean, that guy is just a great, you know, human being. Like he he was he was that he could have been a police officer, you don't know. He's just like how can a guy like that act? Because unless he's actually done it, he he was just a natural at it, you know, and of course, how linden was was great.

I love the the hooker that always comes into the police station getting arrested. Oh yeah.

But anyway, Wojahoitz didn't help anyone with the whole the whole um dumb polock because he was he was that he was that character. Uh Steve Landsberg was was great as uh um the the brainy detective. Uh Ron Glass was great too. Just you know what I mean? He was like he was he always had that like I'm here, but I got places to be. He was upwardly mobile, he was gonna do something bigger, and he was kind of like always had that attitude that he was a little better than everybody else.

But you know who's a better actor than him?

John Alumino. Oh my god. That's just so fucking terrible. Terrible. I mean, I get it. My brain does the same thing, Mark. I just I filter a little more. Oh my god, I just pleased myself so hard. Shouldn't it have been John Plastic?

No, that would be uh John Plastic, John aluminum and John Plastic. Anyway, a great show and a great as well.

Another one of my scratches, too. I that list is so big and I can't remember any episodes of anything. All right, so that brings us to your number one, Kev.

All right, well, I gotta I I I didn't know what to put at the top of the list, so just the fact that it's been on with an 11-year break, law and order with 524 episodes. Right. I mean, and the thing is, it didn't last that long because it wasn't a great show. Because it was a great show. I mean, it was you know, from the hot eighties to I mean, everybody was solid on that, everybody did a good job. Nobody, nobody like phoned it in. There wasn't, you know, all the characters were solid. Uh you I never agreed with Sam Watterson's character all that much, but he made you believe that he was that sympathetic prosecutor, you know what I mean? That uh, you know, was looking for the truth, had more of the very very sympathetic with the underserved population, I guess would be the term today. But like is it just an amazing show? Dick Wolf, obviously the the producer of it. There was the idea came and he went to a producer, a production company to sell it. And the guy that he talked to was like, Oh, there was already a show once called Arrest and Trial. And that one was a little different in the 60s. It was Ben Gazaro was the cop, and Chuck Connors was the uh defense attorney.

And the rifleman? Yes. I love him.

Ben Gazaro would arrest him every week in the first part of the show. And in the second part of the show, Chuck Connors would get them off. He would he would find a hole in whatever it was that they arrested him on and get the guy off. So they decided it would be a little different with law and order that they'd they'd get the bad guy and then the prosecutors would would convict. So a little a little twist on the original thought. But well done.

And I think Chuck Connor came up. Yeah, absolutely.

And it was always kind of fun to see in in that show as well. The people that were, you know, you see them, they they played a small part, and later their career exploded. Or the j it was always fun to see who the judge was because the judge would always be somebody that you knew from something else. I was always sad that they never had uh Harry from Nightcourt as a guest judge on there.

That would have been I actually been watching some of that too lately. Like Night Court from my yeah, like some of these picks we come up with during our shows. I go back and watch that, and it's just incredible.

Yeah. Another great theme show. Theme song.

I love that. All right, brother. Okay, so that's the theme in your number one pick. Okay. Book'em denno. Hawaii 5-0. Bookham Dennow. Jack Lord was incredible as McGarrett. He he didn't suffer fools gladly, let me tell you that. The show was just so much uh it was intense. It was always intense. There was, you know, it was always murder, and a lot of the themes were great. And I do remember going to Providence, Rhode Island when I was, I don't know if it was when I was four or when I was six. And, you know, I always was afraid of being murdered because I watched the show all the time. And I always thought I was gonna get shot in the stomach. You know, we're in to me a huge city. I lived in Littleton at the time. Not a huge city.

Oh, okay. I was I'm trying to find the connection between Providence, Rhode Island and Hawaii and Littleton.

Okay, the kids is in the little boy's mind. I can't know he's gonna get murdered because he's in the city. I remember this guy walking in the back of the friggin' apartment duplex or whatever it was, and uh anyway, he was walking out there with a tie and everything. I figured he was gonna come in and shoot me in the stomach. He didn't, thank God. But uh, this show, I'm just not articulating it great, but I loved it. Yeah, that the native Hawaiians, all the girls again, the girls were incredible on the show, and it ran from '68 to nineteen eighty. And I if correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe they had a remake, which I have not watched one second. There is a remake. Have you watched any of it? No, yeah. I don't why can't they just come up with original ideas?

Because they can't and they won't. Okay. So number one to me, and God, I have so many that I could pick through here, but I can't not do this one, and I have to take it, and it bothers me almost. But it's chips. Like, I love this show, it is just so important to me. I just everything about it I loved. Even the the little stupid cases they'd have, but just the dialogue between the two partners, and the they like go out at night on their dates, and you know, it's I it was just incredible to me. It was incredible. Yeah, it was a good show. I think motorcycles had a big part of it too for me. Like, but the captain, god, he was awesome. Yeah, he was good. Uh what's his name again?

Uh, the actor's name was Pine. I can't think of his first one.

He was definitely in a Clint Eastwood movie, he played that role great. He was kind of kind of funny, you know.

Smart ass, like bitchy, but liked everyone. And but just he, I'm pretty sure he's in a Clint Eastwood movie, and I have to go back to kind of look that up. AJ, do you remember that?

Was it Danny Bonaducci that was that do you remember that they were trying to mimic Kiss?

Is this an episode you're talking about?

Devil take me!

Devil take a little bit.

We had makeup on Mimic Kist. All right, Donald. So number one to you to finish it out.

Cool. And I have to go with a repeat, and it's Hill Street Blues, um, because it is the OG of like Kev was saying, it it it it is the first time that they took and and looked at the human side of of policing, you know, like not just the beat stuff, but the home life and you know, and the interactions in the station and all that stuff. It like made it more life, and that became like the gold standard for shows coming after that, you know, like ER and and uh you know, all the fire shows that we were talking about and stuff like that.

So incredible.

It was great, and then just the the all-star actors in that show. There, you know, there's too many to the name. You know, it was it was an awesome show. Was that good drama?

Yes, was that a 10 o'clock show? I think it was nine, but uh yeah because yeah, it was I think it was Hill Street Blues and Saint Elsewhere that like were back to yeah, you you're absolutely right. I just couldn't remember which one was later because I could never make it.

And at the time it was, yeah, that was probably like risque at the time for all the comment that they had, you know.

Right, didn't didn't they show like Dennis Franz's butt or something like that? Wasn't it there was a big to-do about it.

Then he like went into NYPD blue, right? You know, stay off.

There's a good one that um right, right, yeah, an honorable kill myself for leaving it out.

I should I should have audible it, but Dragnet was one of my one of the earliest ones, and that's what I was talking about. Mark 7. Right, exactly. Jack Webb, that was his production company. Um I I remember somewhere back in the early 90s waking up in the middle of the night and Dragnet being on, and you don't realize it watching the show, but you remember the movie where Aykroyd kind of made fun of him, but everything was like a good movie, finally. Could you just please tell us, ma'am, what happened? And what time did you come in? What did you do? It was like the dialogue was rapid fire and monotone, and it was just like waking up to it, but but a great show, groundbreaking. Of course, you had again we talked about not understanding why some people were in different lines of work, but um obviously that one was before MASH, but I saw MASH and then tried to figure out why Harry Potter, not Harry Potter, Colonel Potter, was I guess he was a cop before he went to Korea. Before he went to Hogwarts, yes, exactly. Um, so that's definitely my my number one honorable mention.

Awesome. You want to roll one, Mark?

All right, so yeah, anyway, Kevin, on that one, that the main character in Dragnet always he all he sounds like the you ever hear the weather? Have you guys ever had that weather channel on your radio?

The do you mean the robot the robot one?

Yes, he sounds like the robot. The emergency thing.

Yeah, just a fact, man.

Right.

Yeah, but anyway, uh my first honorable is Hill Street Blues in it just like you AJ. It's because I have warm memories watching it with dad.

Right, exactly. I'm glad you said that because that'll lead into my first one, which was the other one I was talking about with dad, and this would be the new Mike Hammer, private investigator with Stacey Keach.

Yeah, it was Stacy Keach is great.

He was such a hard ass and just hard hat. Lard ass. Lard ass. Do you know who this is this is? Who knows who is this is who is this by then? Uh any more, Donald?

Oh, you haven't gone yet. Chips was mine, but Magnum PI, but um yeah, okay, which I've used in other casts, so that's why I left it out.

But right, yeah. Right. Sledgehammer was the goof on on the cop shows, but I couldn't find it to refra- I remember watching it in the day. I remember the actor because he showed up in several other things since, and it was a funny goof on police shows. But I like I said, I couldn't I couldn't get any more information on it. I just and my memories from back then are way too fuzzy to bring it up, but I just remember watching it and laughing my arse off. Anymore, Mark?

Yeah, I have two. Um, SWAT that was the one that I was talking about. Yeah, I mean I couldn't find that was one of my polls because I don't remember anything about it, other than uh me, brother David, and Steve and Billy Walker, the twins, would would pretend to be SWAT all the time out in the woods and whatever and chasing criminals.

I just remember the paddy wagon that looked like a UPS truck.

And the only other one I'll mention quick is I remember Kojak. He was so all the off and Who Loves Your Baby.

So just to get it out real quick, the ones that I was shocked that weren't mentioned were Get Smart, the one he took Get Smart, yeah, um Spencer for Hire.

He was a private detective.

I would have detective.

Yeah, I understand that, but but when I made my list, I love that show.

The other show, though, real quick, just before I hang up here, is Riptide. That was a fun one with the boat and the helicopter.

Right. I can't believe that we didn't have Columbo because he was great, but Streets of San Francisco, that's where I was going Canon, Mannix, Ironside, Beretta, Barnaby Jones, Policewoman, Gagney and Lacey, Charlie's Angels, Mod Squad. I mean, I got so many of them right here. And and of all of them, and I and this one made me think when I talked about Miami Vice, when the producer was like, Bring me MTV cops. That later turned into cop rock, which was terrible.

It lasted what two weeks. Was that like a music show or something? Yeah, it was terrible.

Dancing cops, singing musical. So dumb. It was terrible, but yeah. That oh, Philip Marlowe, Private Eye, another good one.

Yep. So MacGyver. Is he blinded? Yes. And I think one of you guys said Matlock. I did like Red Black. Matlock should have been there. Yes, that one too.

Pierce Broznan, right? Kolchak.

I loved that show as a kid. Kevin said Kojak.

No, he said. Oh, I don't know that. Oh, okay. That was had a little bit of paranormal to it.

Yes. Perry Mason Shaft, Vegas. Oh, Titanic. Oh, what was the guy?

Oh, Airwolf. Awesome. What was the other thing? There was two with vehicles like that. Airwolf, and there was another, like a plane. I can't remember. Blue Thunder? Blue Thunder. Blue Thunder. That's it. Yeah, that was a movie.

I don't know if there was a show, but that was a movie. Yeah.

I think there was a brief show, like maybe one season. Yeah.

I would imagine they would have tried to capitalize on that for sure. Awesome boys. Well, that was fun. Thank you, Kevin. Hey, thanks, AJ. Mind, brother Mark.

Oh, that was fun, AJ. Uh, and uh, have a great night up there.

Two man. And Donald and Margot, who is with him at this moment. Thank you. Have a good one. Awesome guys, and we are out of the way.