Best 80s Horror Movies, Ranked

Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of Past Times at 80s High. Another great one for you today. We're gonna do our top seven favorite scary movies. The genre could be a bit, you know, all over. Um, just you know, scary. That's all. And uh, of course, I have Donald here today. Donald, hey, how you doing? Good man, Kevin. Hello, hello, and brother Mark. How's it going? Lovely, thank you, and I am AJ. Um, Kevin, want to give a shout out.

Well, yeah, we got some new listeners in uh Lima Province, we've got some people in Alton, New Hampshire, and some new friends in Highland, Indiana. Nice. I've been to one of those places. Yeah, I've been in Indiana, huh?

As always, we're just gonna get started right out of the gate. But before we do, I just did want to say out there, we just lost Ozzie Osborne. That's a bothersome thing. It's everywhere in the world, so we're not gonna get in depth today about it.

And the incredible Hulk Hogan.

Yes, sir, and Theo uh Huxtable. Yes, Chuck Manion and Connie Francis. Yes, yes.

Bad week.

Yeah, yeah. It was nice that Eddie brought up Chuck and said, you know, how people just go, they fly under the radar when something bad happens because of someone else.

Kadoo, kodoo, nicely done. That was there was no instrument there, folks.

That was that was Donald Trump. That was all Donnie.

Yeah, it it's uh I would say that uh uh Manjone was the second greatest flugelhorn player in all of rock and roll. No, like who else? It's it's like Jeff Rotel. Oh, he's the second best flutist in rock and roll, really. No, I think he's number one. Yes, indeed. Maybe not the best heavy metal album, but definitely the best flautist.

Kiss tie-in. That's what happened to Eric Carr. Freddie Mercury died on the same day as Eric Carr. And you know, so we didn't get the you know the props he should have, if you will. But anyway, awesome folks. Well, hope you'll enjoy this one. And Kevin, you do have the on hairs.

Your Honor, Your Honor.

Your offer, Your Honor.

All right. There was only one place to start this, and just a fantastic movie. A John Landis film. He actually got the idea for the film while working on one of my all-time favorites, Kelly's Heroes, in 1969 in Yugoslavia, where they were driving along and they saw some Romanians doing some kind of ritual to a guy they were burying that was preventing him allegedly from coming back to life. Uh, and that's where he got the idea for American Werewolf in London.

Werewolves in London.

Ah, cool. Which was just such a great movie, and they didn't want to make it, so he wrote it in '69. They didn't want to do it because the studio was like, Well, it's it's too scary for a comedy, and it's too funny for a horror movie. So they like shelved it for for 10 years. Um, when they did decide to make it, because he had just come off the success of uh Blues Brothers, um, they wanted Aykroyd and Belushi. Oh my god, think about that. Think about American Werewolf in London. Instead of um Naughton and uh Griffin Dunn, aka Johnny Dangerously's little brother, yes, uh, instead of those guys who were fantastic in that movie. I just think of how completely different that would have been as an acroid and Belushi VM.

It would have gone to sheer comedy. You know what I mean? It would have had to happen. Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, I don't I don't know, but even so, it would have been and would it have been, I mean, it would have been a completely different movie. Like you say, it probably would have left some of the horror in the in the dust and probably not been what it was. But uh absolute, I think if you grew up in that era, tell me you didn't want to get a backpack and go to the slaughtered lamb and throw some darts.

I'm so glad you took that. Was on my scratch. Yep. And the the effects of that movie, man, when he turns for back then it was great. What year did they actually release it? I didn't write it down. Uh that was released in 1981. Awesome, such a great friggin' movie.

And my girl Jenny A. Gutter, who was also in Logan's Run. Ah, yes.

Cool movie.

Not hard to look at.

Negatorian.

Yeah, who wrote the song? Werewolf in the Werewolf in London.

Werewolf in London.

Oh, you're talking about Warren Zevon.

Oh, that is Z Von, of course it is.

Yes, yes, the legend.

Yes. Awesome, great pick. All right, brother, that's to you.

All right. Well, um my number seven pick is the Amityville Horror. Came out in 1979. It was based on a true story. Classic. Where uh this man friggin murders his whole family, six people, and in the movie the opening scene is the thunderstorm, and you're hearing the gunshots. And uh, you know, that's what the movie's based on. It was like within two weeks, they're friggin' they've moved out and it and everything. And no, I mean what basically the the the lead actor looked like Mick Foley. Yeah. Big time.

I mean, I never put it one and one together at the time, but I mean he every time I see that window style of that in Ammyaville.

Yeah, and uh get out. In the Ammyville horror, a ghost told them to get out the house. White people stayed in there. Now that's a hint and a half for your ass. A ghost say get the fuck out. I would just tip the fuck out the door. They walked and looked in the toilet bowl, was blood in the toilet. They said, That's peculiar. I would have been in the house and said, Oh, baby, this is beautiful. We got chandelier hanging up here, kids outside playing. It's a beautiful neighborhood. We ain't got nothing to wear. I really love them. This is really nice. Too bad we can't stay, baby. Too bad we can't stay then, honey.

Eddie Murphy.

What a beautiful house. This place is great. Kids playing in the yard. Too bad again today.

Is that the right movie I'm thinking of? No, yeah, that's what he was talking about. Sorry, Mark, go.

Okay, so so basically um it starts happening to the Mick the guy that looks like Mick Foley, the the dad. James Brolin? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you. Um and uh and he it's crazy because he'll start going off and trying to kill somebody, and then he'll get somebody will shake him or or you know. Right. And then all of a sudden he comes right back into it, and they drove off. Well, a little side story I have to bring up. Um back, I don't know, I think it was 1983. I was seeing a girl named Wendy. I do not remember her last name. She also was from Guilford. But we I was over at her house, and this is the movie we watched, and my brain has gotten in the way of just about everything in my life to stop me from having any any enjoyment in life. And uh so I had to piss like crazy. And I went into the bathroom and I had stage fright.

I'm not sure.

No, that's the problem. Back then I was even worse than Wow. No, I don't know.

I got you.

So I don't know how the date ended. I didn't care. Back where I don't it there used to be a supermarket called The Globe. Headed up, you know, across from Lily Pond. I pulled right in, they were closed, I hung it out, and I friggin pissed so much that you could have stalked us with something. Oh my god, that was the most relief I've ever had in my entire life. But anyway, the movie was uh I mean That sounds like a great experience, brother. No, it was not a great experience, okay? So, all right, that's my number one uh seven pick. And folks, that's where the Piscadaco River came from.

Yeah. No, the what is it, Mark? Because you said globe. Wasn't the globe like a Kmart? It wasn't a well-e.

The globe, it didn't come close to the globe in Littleton, New Hampshire. Yeah, but you said supermarket. I did I meant department store. I don't care. I I still remember how urgent the piss was. I didn't get the words outright.

Awesome. That's a great pick, though. That didn't even cross my mind. And um, and not because I didn't like the movie, it just didn't show up on my radar. However, my number seven. This is the only one on my list because I went You only picked one? The only one that, you know, I went by mostly what scared me. And this one really didn't, but I had to put it in here because, you know, it could be scary to some, and it meant a lot to me, and that is The Lost Boys, 1987. It's got my girl in it. Just a fun, yeah, Jamie Guess. Just such a great movie. Um the the two Coreys, you know, back then, who now I can't stand that Corey Feldman, and of course, yeah. The other one, Corey Haim, is long gone. Uh, drugs, I believe. Drugs. But anyway, just such a great movie. Uh Keeper Sutherland in that. Uh Bill from Bill and Ted's is in it. It's just so much fun. I mean, enjoyable, you know, little things that just come to mind in that. And that is uh, God, I forget his name now, but Cry Little Sister. What a great, great movie song for that movie, you know. Come on, you guys don't know that. What did you think about it? It's uh Gerard McMahon wrote it. Anyway, that I'll go to you, Donald.

I love the old man when he's like, one thing about Santa Clara I never could stomach. Yeah. All the damn vampires.

Yes. One thing about living in Santa Carla, I never could stomach. All the damn vampires.

I can watch it over and over too. I and one little memory of mine watching it with the girls when they were little. Yes, that's right, everyone out there. I didn't really hold my girls off from watching anything they wanted to, you know, unless it was, of course, really inappropriate. Which is pretty much everything on TV. In the beginning when they're showing the um yeah, nowadays, right? When they're showing um the amusement park at the beginning, and there's this like weird, like caveman, creepy dude mannequin in the chairlift going up that just always freaked them out big time. You know, not the vampires. Yeah, it's just not any of that. Awesome. Anyway, to you, Dongo, to wrap up number seven.

All right. So I know we're not supposed to say this, but I'm not a big horror person. So it's this is a hard category for me, but I'm gonna try to do my best. I have watched some, but I haven't watched a lot. I've watched at least seven with you.

Right. Yeah, but you guys were all in those minimum.

And we'll keep those because they'll probably come up or a certain type. Um overall, I never gravitated it for this reason, and I'm gonna pick Hellraiser. So it was a 1987 movie, and I don't remember a lot about it, but all I remember about it was watching it over at Montfett's house, and there was a scene that I almost fainted. Like I had to get up, and then when I got up, I like almost passed out because it like affected me. And it's like I'm one who works in an industry where blood is spilled, and you know, it doesn't affect me that much, but sometimes it does. But uh, there was one time I had to hold a dude's formoral artery that was bleeding really bad, and the smell and the feeling of the pulse that almost made me faint. But, anyways, this this movie, like not as bad as this movie, though, right? Like I was watching. Sometimes watching things on like when I see someone get hurt on T, like I feel it, like I have that uh empath or whatever, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's like I was like, Oh, I don't feel good. Oh I would freak me out shock freaky movie.

Yeah, right. That would come under scary.

Scary or gore, or just something that was kind of like, you know, I could feel the visceral pain of what was going on. Yeah, it's an M M pass. Yeah, so it was the Clive Barker movie, and he he had a bunch of movies, so he he'll probably come up again.

But that movie was a bit disturbing, yeah, with Pinhead, and Pinhead had the greatest horror voice. Oh, no tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering.

Yeah, you know, just a creepy looking dude.

I'm sure I saw that like a million years ago when it came out, but I'm trying to what was because they had a lot of like extreme characters like that.

But yeah, what was the did was there a purpose for the pins in his head other than just no, it wasn't like I think to look creepy because there was like that guy with like a metal jaw, there were all kinds of but like the metal jaw, like okay, he lost his jaw, so they gave him a metal one.

It's like was he did he have a did he have an acupuncture accident? I got this splitting headache, right? Right, right. They take the pins out, and all of a sudden he's like, Oh, I'm so sorry. Right. I really sorry about killing all those people. It was just this migraine was I do not believe there was terrible.

I have to read up on another one. Good pick though, Donovan. Yeah, awesome. Uh number six, do you care?

Number six to me is another I and this is not really a theme, it just kind of worked out that way on my first two picks. A little bit of comedy to go with your horror. The beginning of Sam Raimi's career with the Evil Dead 2. Ah, yeah, Bruce Campbell was so friggin' hilarious because, like Donnie, I I I went through a phase where I was really into horror movies when I was younger, but it's not anything that I really gravitate towards my own day-to-day life is frightening enough. I don't need to be scared. But but what I loved about Evil Dead is is the humor of it, and there was a lot of like cool like camera work and things that they did, you know, it was like the the flying down the road and then and and all of that. But I just always we laughed so hard at that scene when he gets infected by the evil dead and he ends up cutting his own hand off, and he's like losing his mind, and he's laying on the floor bleeding out of the stump, and he goes, Who's laughing now? And the hand like thing goes across the floor and then it stops. I think I want to say it's in like a mouse hole or something in the wall, and it pops up on its stump and flips him off. We just lost it because it was so unexpected and hilarious. You know what I mean? You didn't, you didn't, you saw the Evil Dead, so when you went to see the Evil Dead 2 or rented it or whatever, you really weren't expected because we didn't have the internet, we didn't have you know any of the the pre-stuff, we didn't get to hear about it beforehand. You rented a movie. Oh, it's a sequel to Evil Dead, but it's fucking hilarious.

It is funny, and such a cult classic, yeah, and bigger than the first one. Like when you go to like the cult classic of those films, the second one always is the one that comes out.

Oh, absolutely. I think the third one went over the top, and now there's even like a there's been TV shows and and that could be a theme here with other movies, could happen, absolutely.

Great pick though, okay. All right, Mark.

Well, just as a side note, I do miss I mean, I know it's easier now, more convenient, but I still do miss going to the video stores like Blockbuster, local. It it was just something about it. Going to night out. It was a night out figure out what you'd get pizza, whatever to go with it. It was movie night.

Yeah, you know, going on getting the movies was great. Having to return them sucked. Yeah, and rewind. Be kind be kind and rewind.

Rewind. Yes, now we sit down and we've got 47 streaming things that we sit there and scroll for four hours to see if something's worth fucking watching. And then you watch it and it's not worth watching, and you fall asleep before the movie starts.

It's just something uh more family oriented oriented from that. But yeah. So anyway, this this movie, I mean, first of all, don't go to the light. Whatever you do, don't go to the light.

I'm a friend of the light, Carly! I'm a friend of the light.

Run to the light, baby! Just stay away from the light. Go into the light! Stay away from the light. The light is dangerous. Don't go near it. Run to the light, Caroline, run as fast as you can! Don't even look at the light. Tell her to go to the light. Diane, ask about the light. You said don't go into the light! Honey, do you see a light? Do not go into the light! There is peace and serenity in the light.

Jump to scary.

1982 poltergeist. I mean, it was it was creepy. Yeah. My god, and it be it remained creepy for the cast, which I will get to. I will get to, but my biggest takeaway from this movie was uh the short woman. The little little little one.

Don't mind hanging back. You're jamming my frequencies.

Oh my god. It just the way she was so sympathetic and loving, but it was creepy. She was creepy in the end. There was something creepy about her.

She was creepy. She was extremely creepy.

And you know, I mean, I mean, even Night Ranger did it. They they did some of the stuff to that at the beginning of one of the songs. It even creeped me out then, but um, but yeah, it you know, poltergeist in reality can be a uh a effect of what your brain is doing. It it doesn't have to be technically uh paranormal, but in the movie, of course, it was. But but did you know that the older sister was murdered by her boyfriend within a few months, and the main character died in um in real life. In real life, died from basically a blockage in her intestine, sex. It was just really 12 years old. Yeah and then Kevin, what's her name again?

The Oh, I don't know. I can't remember the older.

I'll never forget old.

What's her name?

Dominique Dunn, who played Dana Freeland, she was the older sister, was murdered by a man called John Thomas Sweeney, who was her ex-boyfriend that went to beg uh for her to come back to her, and he strangled her but didn't intend on killing her. Oh, that's so nice.

He wants her so bad. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean he only he got seven years for voluntary manslaughter, and he got off in three and a half. But he did not mean to do it. But I mean, two other one of the characters died of stomach cancer during the filming of uh Poltergeist 2.

Yeah, weird kind of backstory.

Bad luck. Oh no, I mean the maybe they were the place was haunted. Yeah, right. I don't know. You tell me, but yeah, it just kind of freaked me out.

It's the Indian burial ground cursing them all.

Yes, and it's uh well, you know, I I can't I'm not gonna start.

Now hold on to yourselves. There's one more thing. A terrible presence is in there with her. So much rage, so much betrayal. I've never sensed anything like that.

Oh, she was creepy to the light. Yeah, she was so fucking creepy.

Yeah, when she walked her like shoes squeaked or whatever.

You didn't even mention that Craig T. Nelson's show got canceled after like eight seasons. Coach, yeah. I was gonna say coach did good. See, yeah, see, there was all kinds of bad actors.

All right, so I mean I have actors I've not watched this movie in probably thirty years, so I don't remember. Everything about it.

You don't remember Coach was the main dad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Craig T Nelson.

Yeah.

I was, I was, I was merely making a joke about the bad things happening to the actors.

I understand that, but Coach had a good career. He was on that was the joke. Young Sheldon. He was on Young Sheldon. Yes, I get the joke.

All right. All right, we're going to me. Sorry, people. All right. Um, before I go on, though, I did want to say something about what you were talking about, Blockbuster Mark. Is when I lived in Hinsdale, this little little town, South New Hampshire, Missouri. Southwest. Yeah. And uh every Wednesday it was Dollar Rental Day, and you could rent up to five movies. Or at least mom used to let me get five. I don't know if you could go unlimited, but I'd go in and I'd pick out five movies, and that was my life down there. Like you keep a for quite a while. So, but I would go in there and I would be in there for hours trying to pick out what I'd want to watch. And boy, poor mama. Just the fact that she would sit in that car patiently and say, When is this little jerk gonna come out?

Right. And that's before cell phones, so she was out there sitting maybe reading a book. I mean, what is it gonna do back now?

You scroll on your phone when you're waiting for somebody, but yeah, oh, but yeah, what a joy it was. It it was important, but yeah, the blockchain thing was great. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, awesome. All right, so for number six, I am going with 1974's the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's the original, the goods with leatherface, and just such a uh another cult classic, if you will, but I mean, God, talk about creepy, I mean, this family, just the things they did in it. You know, like you said, I think a couple casts ago, Mark. You like head cheese? Yeah, that rather makes me real, yeah. Just incredible. Just to watch them with like grandpa was this like old dude, and it was grandpa, but he was still alive, I guess, but he looked pretty close to dead, and they would put like a two-pound hammer in his hand and hold his arm up and drop it on to like the victim that was just screaming. It was just fucking scary when you were a kid, you know. Twisted, very twisted. And I probably didn't see it till I was, you know, obviously at least eight before I was allowed to watch it.

Was that one that was in any way loosely to real? Was there a real story behind it? Was it a television?

Yeah, based very incredibly loosely on something that happened.

Well, is it normal to just wait for people with chainsaws if they show up at your house a stranger? You know, if you live, you know, 58 miles from the nearest other house. But AJ, it was uh it was you like head cheese, like assuming that you do, not like you like head cheese, but yeah, anyway.

You can have dinner with us. You like head cheese? My brother makes it real good.

You like my brother makes it real good. Sure does. It's gonna be out of your head. Oh, what a beautiful family.

Oh my god. Remember that commercial, guys, where that those idiot kids they keep Oh yeah, yeah. Let's get in the car and leave. Are you crazy? Let's head for that let's hide in the garage, hide under the chainsaws.

That is based on the terrifying true story of Ed Ghean.

Yes, Ed Gehan, yeah. Oh boy. Oh, there you go. All right, Ed.

Oh, I thought you were gonna explain who that was. My taw salesman from Lovick, Texas. Steel.

Boy of the Monte.

Huskavana. Go ahead, Don. Number six.

All right, so um, this is a weird one for me, too, because uh there's so many of them, and I'm picking the fifth one. So it's Friday the 13th, yeah, part five. And the reason why I'm picking A New Beginning. A new beginning. Yes, I'm picking this one, and I I I don't know if this is the one that you referenced. Um, because there's there's so many of them, obviously. There's like 25 of them if you go on you know, you can always see the original and all that stuff. But the fifth one was one that I went to at a movie theater alone, you know, like not alone alone, but like without my parents, okay, you know, like with a group of friends, and we called ourselves the Out to Lunch Bunch, and we we went to this movie down in Brockton, Massachusetts, you know, Westgate Mall. It's a humongous movie theater. And there was a there was a black kid in the movie. His real name is Shav Shavar Ross, and his character's name was Reggie, but everyone knew him as Dudley. He was a character from different strokes, and he's just a little black kid in the movie, and he like gets on a tractor or whatever, and he goes after Jason, everyone's like cheering for him. Yeah, it was just fun. Like, if you were in Brockton, Massachusetts in 1985, like people yell at the screen, and it was just an experience, like you know, like it like is quiet, and then some ladies like he's gonna die, and it's like just like Eddie Murphy said, you know, like and people laugh, and like it was just an awesome experience. I you know, the movie was just cutting up people and killing people, of course, but isn't what normal people do, right? But it was it was just a good experience um for me being in that movie theater in 1985 for the first time without my parents matters too, man.

And that's the one where Tommy, which I might get there later, but Tommy, um, who was Corey Feldman in the final chapter, was like the main character, yes, too.

Yeah, yeah. So what's that effect? When everybody thinks like uh goodnight, John Boy, but they only said it once the Mandela effect. Mandela, yeah. So the Mandela effect with this one was everybody called the kid Dudley, but his name wasn't Dudley. His movie character was was Reggie, but Dudley. But everybody called him Dudley because that's who he was playing on different strokes. I gotcha. I gotcha.

Good lord, I'm trying to look it up. There's eight Friday the 13th, part five.

I know, it's ridiculous.

How do you have that many parts? Could we have some consistency here? Could we be like 75 consecutive 13ths?

Because there's like, you know, the new one, the rendition, the oh, which is fine.

I get it. You want to keep the franchise going, but you can't have five different movies called part five. Good lord.

Right, right, right chronology here. Yeah. Good pick, Dawn. All right, Kev, that's number five to you. The original Friday the thirteenth.

Nice. Ah, yeah. You gotta absolutely because it was it was. I mean, I don't know if it was the beginning of the the slasher, but it was for me.

It was for us.

That was the beginning of slasher movies that were just the plot was about as thick as a porn flick plot, and it was just like, how do we move from this scene to this scene where the guy gets killed in a new and interesting way, or whatever else. So it was it was not uh not cinematic genius, but we had fun, we were young, it scared us. Um, Kevin Bacon was nice, was there, and the thing that blows my mind about this is the budget to make the first one. Thank you, sir. May I have another? Yes, the budget to make the first one was five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow, it grossed 59.8 million worldwide.

What does that say about your society?

Which explains why we were inundated with slasher films after that. Exactly. Because everybody, every producer in Hollywood was like, I can set up a half a million dollars. I'll tell you what, I'll give you a million because it's gonna come back as 120 million. Today, though. And I'm sure it did.

That's short chain. That's paying like one hour of a you know high-level actor.

That's 550,000 today. You're not yeah a minute. You couldn't you couldn't make clerks with a fucking handheld with your iPhone today for 550,000.

Yeah, awesome. What a good pick, though. And yeah, I'm excited to see a trend here. All right, Mark. That's number five to you. Red Ram.

Red Ram. So yeah, obviously, we're talking about the shining. Yes. This movie came out in 1980, Jack Nicholson. Yeah, he's an author. He's they go off to this massive freaking resort. And he was supposed to, you know, go up there for the to block his writer's block. And the star of the show to me was a little boy who was into the uh I mean, no, he he was just psychic in a lot of ways, and it was kind of creepy in that uh you had all these dead twins coming out of walls, and it was just yeah, I mean, I just remember it really freaking me out a lot, and uh It was freaky. And Jack, brother, one of his best acting performances.

Oh, absolutely, yeah, without a telling.

He was the scary part, like he was horrifying to me anyway. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I just um, you know, the the little girls creep me out in the red ram. Red ram, red ram, red rum, red rom, red rum, red rum, red rum, stop it, red rum, red rum, but and but the other thing about this movie, um, you know, Jack Nicholson, the way he chased people with the axe. And I used to run, I used to run like that with my weed whacker, you know, just to threaten people. And I would even do that on a certain property just for fun, you know. But but yeah, I mean it was it was a really creepy movie. It was on a ski resort. I felt bad for the wife. She was just really all trying to raise a family. I knew well, I'm she was just beside herself.

Shelley Duval, she's awesome. Like, yeah, yeah, she's got like the classic face, like she's not haughty, but yeah, she's got an intriguing, like, she's definitely an original original talent.

Like everybody's a hottie if you can use your brain to give me the bat, Wendy.

Give me the bat, Wendy. Give me the bat so I can kill you.

I'm just gonna bash your fucking head in.

I'm just gonna bash your brains in.

But seeing him, there was a thing on the internet like him getting prepared for the scene. Oh, it's incredible. It's like it looks like he's crazy, like he's legit getting into character.

Really like he did, and he's still a fucking amazing incredible actor. All right, well, you're right. This might be our first repeat. Thanks for taking it, brother. Pete and repeat. This would be poltergeist. Oh, cool. I had to do it, and Mark pretty much spoke about everything I was going to, except the old man was pretty.

Oh, I do remember him vaguely.

He was creepy, and the um say it. The one thing that really um creeped me out was the little boy in his room and that fucking tree outside the window. Like, I remember how scary that was, you know, not leading down the real life story of it, but just in the movie itself, like with Carol Ann and just the disappearance and the I mean, we never looked at a UHF TV, you know, which same way again after that. David used to always say it was army men fighting.

I remember that. Oh, you mean that little uh like the white and black screens when and when it went off air.

But just I mean, that movie did scare me. Uh me too, brother. And it wasn't like in the normal way, you know what I mean? It wasn't like slashing, yeah.

It wasn't somebody jumping out from behind, it wasn't startling you, which is what a lot of the slasher movies were about was just lulling you and then catching you off guard. This made you think and freaked your shit out.

Yeah, absolutely. And I writ in my notes here, I wrote down the short fat psychic. Oh god, she's her voice, but yeah, man, she was creepy as hell. But anyway, I'll go to you for number five, Donald. Yeah.

Correct. We are five, still five. All right, so this one is one that spans multiple genres, but it is definitely a horror movie, it's definitely freaky, and it's the original alien. Oh, so Gorney Weaver. I knew you'd have it. I knew I had to, I wrote it as like you know, it's one like I'm drawn to the science fiction, but this is one that was like horror. Like definitely they I don't know if it's the first time they did that. I'm trying to think back. It is included definitely in said genre, yeah. Um, but you know, maybe previous science fictions had horror themes, but this one was like definitely there's a creature, it's an ugly creature, and it's like that was cool special effects and cool like they didn't show it, like they didn't, you know. Part of what's great about some of these things is like they don't really show the thing until like the very end. Oh yeah, but you just see like the the carnage of it, you know. So you're like, wow, what is this thing? You only see like little blips of it until you see it at the very end. You're like, oh my god, that thing's hideous. Incredible, yeah. Yeah, but the you know, the the dude getting the thing coming out of his gut, yeah, it was amazing, you know.

I mean, think of all the like parodies that came out of the year, right?

Yeah, unbelievable. But Scorney Weaver was awesome in that and that showed Tom Scary. She was hot back in those days, yeah. Yeah, and then you know, a lot of these movies that we're talking about, they spawned like you know, oh universes.

Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely alien vs Predator, right? Right. Awesome though. I knew you'd have it, Don. I knew it because I I was like science fiction. I'm like, no, that could count, definitely.

This is what it has to because it, I mean, on its own, it's it yes, it was staged in space, but space wasn't the main factor of it. The main factor of it was this freaking creepy little creature that has an amazing uh way of we went down the front of the 13th road.

I don't imagine anyone's gonna have Jason X when they were in space. Yeah, yeah.

Right, right. Genius. Although you might have just somebody's writing right now, like, oh, that's a good idea. Like you know what? Maybe he came from a different world or something. Right. Of psychopaths, yeah.

The whole planet of Jasons.

No, right, yeah.

Okay, yeah. That brings us to number four, Kev.

All right. Well, uh you I thought you were gonna take it, but you you didn't say it. You're all gonna die in there.

Let me eat now before it's too late. All of you, you're gonna dumb.

I you said the old man, but then you didn't follow through, so I'll take it. So poltergeist, yeah, we're going through it again because I mean, I think we were all of it. The it was a great movie. I mean, it was a Spielberg production, there was a lot more to it than the slasher movies, and I think we were all pretty much at the right age where we were we understood the psychology of it and were still susceptible to being scared shitless.

Yeah, and and and 1982.

Yeah, the Eric agitated. So the only thing that I can add to that was it started as night skies, and it was supposed to be a sequel to Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Uh, but when Toby Hooper came in to direct Spielberg, he convinced Spielberg that it should be like a ghost story, um, and that's where the whole thing changed from being what the original idea was. And part of that was because Spielberg was working on E.T. and couldn't direct poltergeist because he was doing it. And the other thing that ties in there was Heather O'Rourke got the role of Carol Ann over Drew Barrymore, which indeed made Drew Barrymore E.T. She got so again, if you think of how that could have unfolded differently, that it could have been Drew Barrymore in Poltergeist and Heather O'Rourke in E.T., but I think they made the right choice. Yeah, they made the right choices there for sure. Was Rudy was pretty awesome as as her character Drew was right there when she wasn't at Studio 54 ripping lines and because she wasn't that age.

Julia Gulia. Julia Gulia. I knew a lot of us were gonna have that one. All right, brother, that's number four to you. Brick You Meatball.

And uh yeah, I'm going with uh Nightmare on Elm Street, part three, Dream Warriors. I've talked about this movie on our episodes before, and it's really I mean, not as scary as the original one because that one really shocked you. This one was more humor to me, um, because I just love the Skits. It's the most quotable movie I've ever seen in my life.

One of the movies.

It was quotable, very quotable, and um, you know, uh Freddie, he just he likes to uh take in souls. I mean, what can I say? You can't really fault him. But yeah, no, that this this is probably the movie of Mrs. Pizza, I would think, because this is back in the time of Blueberry Lane. Oh, yeah, and uh it, you know, it was it was a fun movie to watch, and it just didn't really scare me all that much. It just I loved it so much. Remember that sex scene? Oh, yeah. Absolutely gorgeous blonde that is on top of this very what was the character's name? He was very shy. Joey. Oh yeah, so Joey's getting laid by this beautiful, gorgeous blonde. Oh my god, when she's hot. She was so hot. And all of a sudden she turned in to have this long flat tongue that was going into the Joey's mouth, and next thing you know the tongue's that he's go ahead.

I don't want to take you away.

Well, you don't have to take it away from me. Maybe you can add on to it, but I just I remember being mortified that that would be the worst.

He pushes his tongues out and he ties Joey up to the bed with tongues.

Yes, that's that yes. I mean, that would have been great if it was still the blonde, but it wasn't the blonde anymore.

Now, do you want to finish the joke? Feeling tongue-tied.

What's wrong, Joey? Feeling tongue-tied.

Yeah, so yeah, that would have ruined that. I don't know if I would have ever, you know, been able to climax on that on that one. In fact, I would not have wanted to, but anyway, that's my number four age.

All right, Mark. Well, I was gonna say maybe we could name series, but I knew this would happen where we were gonna have different numbers of the movies. For example, you took Nightmare on Elm Street 3, and I'm going with the original. And I'm going with that because as much as I believe three is absolutely one of the best, if not the best, but the first one was the scary one. Absolutely, totally agree, brother. Actually, you know, even though there were some still some pretty good Freddie humor in there, yeah, it was spectacular and it was fucking freaky. It was freaky. That was uh, I don't know if it was it Johnny Depp's first movie, but it was if it wasn't, it was close to it. I think it was his first movie. I think it was his first like budget, a teenager for sure. Yeah. And then just Robert, Robert England was I can never say it, Ungland England starts with an E, but uh was the perfect person to play that character, Freddie Krueger, the music in that movie. I'll get into that more later in some of my other picks. The soundtrack. Not just that, but just the ding ding ding, you know, and the bleeding scraping on the pipes and just the sound effects and the creepy little piano music kicking in here and there. Just it was friggin' scary. And then the thought process of it on top of that, just that when you were a kid, you were scared to go to bed, you know, because that's when it's gonna come and get you. Something's underneath. You know, Freddie's coming for you, and it was just that was a scary movie. So that's my number four.

So that was indeed Johnny Depp's first acting credit. And I just wanted to add to that, too, that I don't see why, you know, it just seemed like perfectly normal to me that you know, as a neighborhood watch, if some guy did something to your kids that of course you would not turn him into the police, no put him inside a boiler.

Yeah, we'd all get together and kill the motherfucker. I don't know what the problem is. All right, Dongo, that's number four to you.

Cool. Uh, this one is kind of another genre, it's horror, it's freaky, it's scary, but it's like because of the devil. The devil devil is the is the main, you know, bad guy. Antagonist. And uh it's the omen. Uh-huh. For whatever reason, this movie freaked me out as a kid. Because it was 1976, is when it came out. So I was four. Um, so you know, I might have watched it when my parents were watching it on the and, you know, I didn't see it in the theater, so maybe it was a couple years after that, but um, it just freaked me out, you know. Damien the the little bastards. The oh, I know you're such a bad little kid. The the um it was like a maid or something who was like to protect him or whatever, and she was freaky, you know. And didn't she like commit suicide or something? I think so.

Look at me, Damien! It's all for you.

Yeah, yeah, it was just such a horrible He was a bad kid. He was a bad C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that kind of move that, you know, there's not a lot of like gore and blood and craziness, but it's just the the premise of it. Oh, yeah.

Those are the real scary ones, you know. Yeah, it's not all about the slashing, yeah.

Yeah, because it's based on it's kind of based on reality in a lot of ways.

Yeah, or at least things people think can be real, you know what I mean? And question. And yeah, great movie, though. Yeah, all right. Uh, where are we?

Number three to you, Kev. All right, now because we're under the whole scary heading here, we're not necessarily doing all horror or all sci-fi or all slasher, and we can obviously move into these things later down the road. But I I paused on this one and I went with it because A, I believe that Stanley Kubrick is the greatest director that ever lived. Yes, followed by Terry Gilliam, but that's a different story. Um, and this one may not be considered a horror movie, but it was definitely frightening. It was scary, and I'm talking about uh Alex DeLong in a Clockwork Aria. Oh god. This movie was it freaked you out because back then when it came out, you could see the potential for society to come to that point, and now here we are. People doing violence for the sake of it was something to do.

Yeah.

I mean, and when he when they break into that house and they just start, he's sing he's singing, singing in the rain. And and he's raping the guy's wife in front of him. And it's just like that callousness, that total disconnect from yes, absolutely disturbing. And then to turn and to see what they do to him as scientists and and reformists, prison reform type people and all that. What they do to him is almost even worse to make him uh the the Ludovico technique is what they call it in the movie. And it's it's just they've got his eyes, and that was the big famous scene where they've got his eyes propped open and the doctors just dropping the eye drops in and making him watch like the Holocaust and these other things, and playing his his favorite music, the the old Ludwig Van, and and psychologically screwing this guy so bad that he would literally lick somebody's boot as opposed to commit violence. And so it's like, yeah, it's it's they were sick as who they were, but what was done to them was or done to his character was almost if not more sick and twisted, and just such a great great movie. And I mean, from the languages that they invented to just everything about it was was it was just wild and and visionary and and weird, and absolutely weird, yeah. Fucking crazy weird.

Awesome pick though. Never saw that one coming. So three to you then, Mark.

All right, this is a repeat, two picks ago. Um Going with the Omen. That movie scared the crap out of me, also, Donnie. It was based on uh The Antichrist. Yeah. And um that little kid, I I do remember, correct me if I'm wrong. I I I know it had a sequel, but there was a part in the movie, I think it's the original one, with um the he the kid, he's probably 12 years old, runs out at the end of the dock, he finds this 666 on his head, runs out at to the end of the dock and says, Why me?

Why? Why me?

And it just, you know, being a Christian and everything, it just really freaked me out.

It was freaky in a weird way, yeah. In a real a reality way. Exactly.

And he, you know, anyone that um came across him, he would kill. And, you know, using his mind. And a little side note here again, a little Mark White story. My first job ever was at a camp in North, I mean, it was northern New Hampshire, you know, thirty.

Wasn't that your favorite job?

Oh, yeah, 44 cents an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But you know, we I worked the lunch thing, you know, after I got fired. Thank God I got fired. I think subconsciously I tried to get fired. Guys, you know, you work six hours a day, dad tell told me, and uh, you get to go fishing the rest of the day, and blah, blah, blah. No, we worked more like 16 hours a day. We forgot the one in front of it. But that they had a little church service on Sunday mornings, and there was a kid that looked like the guy that played the omen, and he looked really depressed to go into this church service. And I'm like, probably because he was working 16 hours a day. Oh no, he was a he was a camper, he was just one of the kids going to the camp. I was there was not many workers there. It was the kitchen people that worked, it was more like 130. Anyway, I says, You kind of look like the omen, and he says, I am the omen. Oh, and he scared the I mean, I was only what 16 years old myself at the time. But it scared the crap out of me. And he freaked me out. I mean, I was just I mean.

So where are we? Number three to me, and I am altering the list. I am going to this one, which I have much to say. It might not seem to be in this category to some of you, but to me it certainly is, and that would be Jaws. It's a good one. Yes, all right, 1975, just everything about this movie to me. I mean, first of all, you know, Spielberg, right? Yes, and it's I mean, the actors in it, oh god, Richard Drake, whody, um, fucking Quint, just incredible. The mechanical shark, don't forget him. Bruce, I mean called him Bruce, yes, Bruce, exactly. And ironically, you brought this up earlier, Donald, and I forget what movie you were talking about at the time, but just the fact that that mechanical shark, Bruce, did break down. So they weren't able to use it in a lot of the scenes that they planned to, and that almost made the movie more scary with John Williams' fucking orchestra playing, you know, just those sounds where you just knew that shark was coming by the incredible, you know, how just as a kid, I mean, I saw it obviously later than it came out because I was only like three when it came out, gave me the biggest fright in my life because I could no longer swim. You know what I mean? And that was just so important, but just the whole movie and every aspect about it, and then getting onto that on Quint's boat, like talking about the USS Indianapolis, and you know what was it? 1,100 men come on.

So 1100 men went in the war, 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.

316 make it, you know. Delivered the bomb. Yeah. And just, you know, 316. I always it always clicked with me with John. It's a fucking true story.

I mean they delivered the bomb, and that ship went in the water, and a lot of people lost their lives to sharks. Over 900 lost their lives to sharks. Weird irony.

And the stories telling about, you know, he swims over to his buddy who was bit in half and just but then I had to write this down because I was worried I wouldn't um remember the words. But first, you got Quint through half the movie. Farewell and ado, you ladies of Spain. You know, whatever. I my tunes probably way off here. But then uh, what was the other one? Um then show me the way to go home. I'm tired and I wanna go to bed. Had a weed drink about an hour ago, and it's gone right to my head.

Show me the way to go home. I'm tired of the water.

That scene, they actually had those guys. Um, they wanted them a little buzzed up. Yeah. Oh interesting. Yeah. And then um I guess Quint got too fucked up and couldn't run it. So the next night he just had a couple. But um, that scene, fucking amazing. But then, oh god, I I don't want to lose my train of thought on this because this is what I was most excited to talk about, especially with it being the 50th anniversary and everything that happened. But was oh, this one is the one that hit two things. One was when Brody was trying to call it in, you know, we'll get some out someone out here with a bigger boat, and blah blah blah. You're gonna need a bigger boat, exactly. But and fucking Quint comes in with the bat and smashes the VHF radio. Like, nope, yeah, nope, this is Moby. Well, it's a little uh Moby Dick, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. His white whale was the shark. Jonah was here. Yeah, Jonah was here, yeah. But then uh one of my favorite lines in the whole movie, and it's so minor because people might not even remember it, when after that scene, when you know Jaws is running into the boat, the fire starts, and Bruce, you know. Quint is yes, Bruce, where Quint is just like, Chief, put the fire out, would you?

Put out the fire.

Like the fucking floor is on fire, and Quint's like, and he's like, huh? Put the fire out, would you? It's just so mellow. It's such great acting in that movie. Every scene in it with any of those three, especially, was just incredible. And that's some bad hat, Harry.

But you know, AJ, guys, that put too I mean, I think there's been one shark death in a hundred years in New England. That that put unnecessary fear into swimmers.

Yeah, true, true. However, when this came out, you gotta remember that there were literally no sharks up here, especially no great whites. Now go watch a fucking plane fly over Cape Cod. Yeah, there's literally hundreds of great whites around the swimmers. Now, are they eating the people? No. But the shark attacks are definitely going up. Like people, I mean it takes they're not eating them.

Yeah, it takes one bite though.

Well, yes, but what they say is that these sharks they don't they don't feed on people, and specifically a lot of it is surfers because they look to the shark from above, they look like a seal when you've got your arms or your feet hanging over the edge.

Fucking 90% of them, I'm sure.

So a couple of things about the things that you talked about, AJ, because I just because being the 50th anniversary, I just re-watched it after probably 50 years or so. Um, and then there were a couple of things that blew my mind. You were talking about Robert Shaw um getting drunk, and he was like very embarrassed the next day. He thought that he was gonna get fired from the movie, and they're like, nah, let's just kind of lay off the booze beforehand or whatever else. But you were well, he asked the he asked the first day if hey if I had can I have a couple beers to make it realistic, and he went completely and got cocked. Completely cocked, and they couldn't finish shooting, uh, and they had to call it for the day. Um, but you sang the song and you can find it, and maybe we can find it and put it in here. He sings that. Robert Shaw sings that in a movie, a black and white movie, years, years before that. And it's really cool to see that clip of him singing it as a young man. And then seeing him singing it as as Quint.

Farewell and that you do Spanish ladies. Farewell and the Jew, you ladies of space. Single message you see. And so now shall we see you again?

Listen to that comedy bird and tempest. Wasn't he so happy about?

Farewell and ado to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and ado, you ladies of Spain, for we've received orders for the sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again.

The thing that got me rewatching the movie was at the beginning of it, of course, they they hide the fact that because the the townspeople, the the mayors and whatever else, they don't want to, we don't want to lose the the cherished tourism and whatever. It was Amity Mafia. It was Amity Island, by the way. We're talking about Amityville. Um they they didn't want to lose that, but still, even knowing people were still going in the fucking water, knowing that there was some kind of you know shark. Yeah, it's like you know, I'm like, I would not, sorry, no. I mean, I'm out.

Truth be told, there are other sharks that are actually more dangerous than great water. Oh, absolutely. Tiger sharks, bull sharks are probably the most dangerous. Yeah, they can actually swim up right hundred, hundred, two hundred miles up into, you know, like the Mississippi.

Yeah, clean, like fresh water. Yeah, but I don't think that's the the conversation here.

But I understand do you know which shark I want to swim with?

None fucking none of them! Exactly. Not a single one. Moss I's like all right, dongo.

So three to you. So I have to audible because Jaws was my number one, but I'm gonna I'm gonna move it to this pick because we might as well keep the conversation. Rolling it rolling, right? And maybe that will, you know, spurn your memory. Maybe what amazed me about this film, and it's like horror, right? And and fear, this movie produced fear in human beings, like legit fear. It did. So it's like like like alien. I was saying about alien. We know we're not gonna be on a ship with an alien. A lot of people stopped going. But a lot of people like when they go into the ocean and they're dangling their feet in the water, that is in the back of their mind that there might be a shark bump up, I guess. You know, fucking right. Yeah, it was amazing. And John Williams and the it's like everything came together at the right time. The score, the the theme of the movie, you know, it was just amazing, you know, and it's really a simple movie. There's nothing right fancy about it. Nothing fancy, a shark that just ended up killing people, yeah. Right, Marcus Sands. The Great Quark. There's no effects. They picked that one because it is an ominous-looking shark, but it's not the most dangerous. Like the tiger shark is probably the worst, because they'll eat anything, and that's the one that killed all those dudes on the Indianapolis was the tiger sharks.

And the point they picked it though was because they were not in this area, but they are now, correct.

Loaded, yeah, and it's global warming, whatever you want to say, you know. But yeah, it's it's interesting. And they're not they're not killing people. I mean, like Mark said, there's like one or two a year, you know, and it's usually surfers because yeah, you look at the sharp not usually fatality. A surfer looks like a seal, you know. So that's what that's what gets them, you know.

But no, it's like a lot of fishermen are like, oh, we gotta use the right bait and whatever else. Yeah, in all reality, you kind of got to hit the fish on the head with the hook. Yeah. I mean, let's let's be honest.

That's there's you know you got depends what you're fishing for. Well, yes, true. If you're fishing for stripers, I can show you exactly how to nail it. Well, you just do a lot of that right.

But that opening scene, the opening scene. Oh, that's probably the movie classic scenes in cinema history. Other than the head coming out of the shipwreck.

Yeah, that was the but the most shocking scene I've ever seen. Yeah, the head. Well, yeah, that was everyone jumped at their everyone's heart came out of their bodies.

But they m they made Make uh they make the Robert Shark character out to be like some they make him out to be like Ahab in Moby Dick. And that's kind of the the comparison. But you know, he's he was a navy guy, you know. He isn't modern, you know. He's a they make him like he's uh you know 1600 sailor, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, right. Grizzled old sailor.

Yeah, yeah. I'll bring you the whole damn thing. Yeah, exactly. But he, you know, it was like 1970. They'll bring you the whole damn thing, you know. But that's a great scene, too, in the like town hall when they're discussing it. He's like, scratch.

Y'all know me. Know how I earn a living. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasing bluegills and Tommy Cots. This sharp. Swallow you all. Shaking and rising. Down you go. We gotta do it quick. That'll bring back the tourists. I'll put all your businesses on a pay-in basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, Chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him and kill him for ten. You gotta make up your mind. You wanna stay alive and handy up? You wanna play cheap? Be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates. There's too many captains on this island. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing. Thank you very much, Mr. Quent. We'll uh we'll take it under advisement.

Well, it's human nature too, like, and I like that part of the movie where yeah, you could tell people all day long, like, don't do this, don't do this, and they'll still fucking do it. You know, it can't control human beings, you know, they'll do whatever's natural to them. We're wrong at the power of stupid compels you, yeah. It keeps me in business, it keeps a lot of people in emergency medicine in business, you know.

Absolutely. I know, yeah. Awesome.

Yeah, yeah. Another thing about that, too, is is when you think about it and the animatronics and whatever. I know they had there was famously a hard time with Bruce doing what he's supposed to do, but really, and and obviously being in the ocean and only having to show pieces of him and and and all that, they weren't shitty effects. No, I mean, you never looked at him and went, Oh, that's a big rubber shark. Right. No, you know, it looked because they'd be realistic.

They were talking what, 1975 exactly?

Yeah, and they did what I was saying with like Alien, is like they didn't show it, they only showed like allusions to it. Like literally could you see the full thing, you only see like a movement of it or something.

And that's all you have to because it's a storytelling, leave something to the mind's eye, kind of. Yeah, exactly. Because your your imagination is far worse than anything they could ever show you on a screen.

And the funny thing is, though, guys, is it that that is their habitat? We're entering their habitat.

Believe me, I'd much rather swim in a swimming pool than the ocean. Oh, yeah. I got no desire to dangle my feet.

I'm good with the ponds and the lakes too, because if I'm dangling my feet in the perch nibbles, I'm gonna flip the.

I like swimming in the Amazon River.

I want a swimming pool, I want a tail.

I just I'm I'll say I have no fear about diving in the ocean.

If you if you're afraid to go swimming in the state of Maine in Hampton, I mean I uh granted when I when we were down in uh Florida for our honeymoon and at Cocoa Beach, there was uh you know, we were dangling our feet in, and some guy walked up and says, you know, you're you're shark food right now. I'm like, okay. And looking back, have my marriage is gone. I wish I would have become shark food.

It was just funny to say. I had a mark mark on the mark joke. Yeah.

I mean jellyfish are gonna cause more havoc than a shark. Yes. We swim in a bunch of them.

I didn't know they were dangerous. Not me in a ray, me in a war. That's what I mean. That was a jellyfish is.

I don't know, but if the jellyfish bites me, I'm gonna spend at least half my last breast finding a hot chick to pee on pee on me.

Or find some peanut butter. All right.

Uh peanut butter jellyfish time.

Nice gongo. Obviously, I knew that was coming up. That's why I ran with it a pick early because I didn't get stolen from me. He cockpit anti, if you will.

It's number two to you, Kev. All right. So number two, and I don't believe we've had any other than this pick has been picked before, but I don't believe as much Stephen King as there is in this realm, there hasn't been much. And and there's some there's some dichotomy here because I read a lot of Stephen King, I loved his books. Most of his stuff that's turned into movies is horrendous. It's just a lot of it, always, almost always terrible. So what are you picking? And I think that he's kind of gone off the deep end lately anyway, and I don't want to talk about that. I know, but I certainly have an issue with him. It's like, you know, if you act for a living, act for a living. If you write for a living, write for a living. It doesn't give you any standing on what's happening in the world. So exactly do you and shut up. So I am taking for number two another one of my favorite movies, and part of this is the fact that, like we talked about, The Shining scared the shit out of me as a kid, and then going into the world from there, into the world of slasher movies, it was like there was no other than catching Scat Man Cruthers in the chest with the axe, there there wasn't violence like that. There wasn't, you know, I mean the the He said Scat Man Crut.

All I could think of is Kung Fu Fui. Is that Kung Kung Fu? Yes, that's the same guy.

He was he was the caretaker. I didn't know that. And and Jack Nicholson hits him in the chest with with the the fire axe when he shows up to check on them.

Um I didn't know that. I apologize.

Okay, no, that's all right. Um so that was the only part, aside from like the the blood coming out of the elevator and the girls being creepy and all that, it wasn't a gory movie. No, it was suspense, it was about drawing you into the story and watching the madness. Now, there's I I could talk for hours on this, and I'm gonna try not to, but I'm gonna try to hit the important parts. There is a there are actually multiple documentaries about this movie and what it's about because, like I said earlier, what Stanley Kubrick did, he had he had files on movies that he never made. He had so much, he collected so much data, so much information. He and King had no love for each other.

Oh, not at all.

There's a scene in the movie where the car's going up in in the book, it's they're driving. Um Torrance is driving a Red Votes wagon, and he's then you see a Red Votes wagon off the side of the road crushed by the tanker truck, which was Kubrick's way of going, fuck you to King. Yeah, you know what? I'm not telling your story, I'm telling my story. And a lot of the speculation, and there's a lot of stuff that makes sense about it. And think for a minute about if you've ever seen the aerial view of Cape Canaveral and the carpet that Danny is playing on. He's got a hand-knit sweater that has what Apollo 13 on it, and he's sitting there and he's got the vehicles, and he stands up and he goes to room 237, 237, which is the distance to the moon 237,000 miles, and you can't look in there. So the speculation behind this is again about faking the moon landing, and Kubrick literally did work with NASA.

Was he the one that was hired?

Kubrick, Kubrick literally speculation, and there's ideas and there's theories and whatever else, and you can believe what you want. The truth is that Kubrick on 2001, a space odyssey worked with NASA in terms of making the space program more sexy, making it look like packaging it, imaging the space program to sell it to people to get on board with it. Now, part of that relationship turned into him using lenses that nobody else had access to. They were million-dollar lenses that NASA had, and he used them to film the movie Barry Lyndon, where just briefly there were scenes that were candlelit, and the lenses he was using were so far advanced that and literally it's a almost four-hour movie. Most people cannot sit through it, not a lot happens, but I believe every frame of that movie could hang in the roof because it's just so amazingly done. Um so so there's that tie-in. There's him talking to um Jack Nicholson's character, talking to the bartender, the keeper, and all that. So there's a lot of allusion to him saying that you can't you can't do that, you can't talk about it's about him making a deal, right? Allegedly, Kubrick making the deal with NASA and the US government, and you can't talk about it. Wow, interesting. And so there's there's a lot to it. There's actually a uh a documentary called Room 237 that covers a lot of that and it's super interesting. Um, and there's some other theories too. So it's so Kubrick never did anything by mistake, but there's scenes like where Wendy's talking to Jack Nicholson, they come away from him, he's sitting at the typewriter in that grand room.

Is that where the penis is on the desk?

Go on. I don't recall that, but like there's a table that disappears behind him. So he would never Kubrick would never do anything where the continuity is off in a movie, and there's like tables and lamps and shit disappear. And so part of that is that there's a theory that also the story is that Wendy's the one that's lost her mind. Yes, and she's imagining that he's a threat to the kid and that he's doing all these things, then it's all in her head. So there's there's just so much you can watch that movie from a different perspective many, many times and still and still be startled when he puts the axe to the doors. It's here's Johnny. I mean, it's just it's just so great on so many levels, and you could lose your mind trying to figure out what exactly Kubrick was trying to say. I leave that up to you to decide by by watching it because it's it's a very watchable movie, it's a very amazingly done movie just as a suspense movie, but then you add all those other layers into it, and it's just incredible.

So Kubrick is amazing. He did that so good, and Stephen King is amazing. Yes. A lot of people always complain that like you can't do Stephen King movies because his written word is so much better than 90% of the time.

90% of the time it is, which is the where I was going too with that, Don, when you brought it up, Kev, because a lot of his movies were just dog shit.

Yeah.

Kings, I'm talking about. Oh, yeah.

He, you know, his his niche was to write in a way that made your mind just go places, you know.

Well, you could really and that's why some great ones was all I was going with was the incredible ones, like The Shining. Yeah, and like Shaw Shank.

Like, I think he did it the best, you know. Shawshank was great, but it's Shawshank wasn't as mind-twisted fuckology that the Shining is. Right. No, of course. I'm just a totally different movie.

Yeah, Kubrick just took the story and went to a whole different level with it. And but what they did, I mean, Shawshank is one of the best movies ever made, I think. That was a short, it was a short story, and they and they fleshed it out into that. Stand by me.

Yeah, I'm just saying, like, out of the crap, a lot of fucking roses came up in the middle of it.

But I think what Donnie was saying, I totally agree because I didn't even love the horror genre that much in in King's later writing. It's just that I love the way that he described things. You could feel what he was talking about, you could really feel there as far as reading a book really relate to what he was saying. I can remember picking up a map as a kid, coming from Maine and wondering, because he would describe a town that didn't exist, that was north of this town and east of this town, and whatever, and I'd be like, I don't know that town.

And then look at a map and like, oh yeah, it's not even there. I mean, I with me, I I never really read his books. Oh, they're good. I mean, it is incredible. I obviously saw the movies, you know.

Wow, which you lost a little bit. I know, AJ, I'm not.

I'm not I mean, I I'm a nonfiction reader, and I haven't done that in a long time because my free time goes to podcast and guitar.

Oh, I'm just talking about growing up reading.

I know, but I mean, but I I was always a nonfiction reader anyway, because it's stranger than fiction, as they say. True, right? Right. But but yeah, I mean, the translation must have changed a lot, you know, and and I did read about Stanley, I came across that the they he really hated this movie, how it came out meaning Stephen King.

Yes. Oh, yeah, that was the whole moral, like they fought through it, the whole movie.

Yeah, so I mean, he's an odd duck, though. Stephen King's it's certainly an odd duck. Huge Red Sox fan, but awesome.

All right, so that brings us to number two to you, brother.

All right, well, this movie, uh, just seeing it as a child on the movie, you know how they used you know, the movie theater, they'd have the just seeing the exorcist on the movie theater, what's playing. And this friggin' movie played for well over a year was kind of The Marquee. Is that what the Marquee, yes, and that movie freaked me out before I even ever saw it. Again, this movie is based on reality because demon possession is a very real thing, it just freaked me out. I I mean Linda Blair was obviously the main character in Reagan, my daughter's namesake. Oh, Reagan was her you didn't did you name her after that?

I named her after the exorcist, not the president. Yes, you're kidding.

No, I swear to God. Oh my god, I did not know this, but I always said that to Ricky. But yeah, I it just and why do they always get stuck in their beds? You ever notice that when someone's possessed, they're always stuck in their beds. But I mean, the green stuff all over the place, the effect on the priest. I mean, have you guys seen the movie?

Oh fuck yeah. It's my number one, right? It's my number two. All right, well, I'm not gonna.

Nope, never seen that.

Yeah, but I mean, I mean, the movie I wanted to pick for possession was uh too late. It was too, I mean, yeah, too late. It was the uh exorcism of Emily Rose, which was even more freaky, probably, because there was many demons. But uh, so yeah, so that that just really is realistic, really realistic. Is that can you use those two words together? Yes, but yeah, I just I mean, this movie came out when I was eight years old, and wow.

Yeah, it had an effect on people.

Oh, well, yes, it would not have an effect if it wasn't based on a re something that could happen.

Exactly why it's more horrifying.

It was phenomena.

I don't know. Guys, I would sing it, but I forgot the lyrics.

Awesome. All right, so we're number two to me, which I altered, so I must figure out where I was. So this is what I was saying earlier about how we went through a franchise and all had different picks. Like we had one and three on Nightmare on Elm Street. My number two is Friday the 13th, part two. Oh, and I found this to be definitely the scariest one because in the first one we know that Jason's mom was the killer. You picked number five, Dongo.

Yep.

Um, this is the burlap sack one. The burlap sack where Jason didn't have the hockey mask yet, he just wore that sack over his head. Oh, and it I found that so much more horrifying than the hockey mask, you know? The hockey mask just almost became like a joke after it happened. Yeah, he's the goalie, and he's a big man, he would have been good. Yeah, blocked a lot of space, right? That movie was where it really came in with the accurate. And it was just it was really scary to me. Um, and now that we're towards the end and I don't imagine anyone's gonna take it, I struggled between that and number four, the final chapter, because that's where you first saw Jason's face without a mask, right? And that's the one with Corey Feldman in it, but it didn't have that horror factor. Corey Feldman was in these movies, it was in number four, that's it. Oh he was the little boy. The second one with that bag over his head, and just how it was way more creepy to me than all the others, because then when you got to three, you the first one was amazing, but then you got to three that was in 3D, and then it just it went haywire after that. But that to me was like the first real, real slasher movie that had horror to it, like terrifying, you know, like it scared the shit out of you.

But it wasn't as scary as nature trailed to hell.

No, no, nothing was, but anyway, I'll leave it at that and go number two to you, Dongo.

Before we do, can I just ask briefly, because it's been a long time since I've seen these movies, Jason drown as a young boy, correct? But how is he still alive?

Yeah, it was like uh I get where you're going. How did he become a grown man?

I mean, if he came back from the dead, wouldn't he still be like an eight-year-old boy?

Like frozen in time, kind of thing.

Yeah, did he did he grow? Maybe they're trying to tell us he didn't die.

That's what I would be like. I don't know.

It's been so long since I saw that. That's one hell of a question. I just remember the mother's sweater with that huge turtleneck. It must have been so fucking hot in the summertime. Nobody goes to camp in the winter. Summer cake. So it had to be summer camp, but she's wearing that big knit wool thing with a huge neck. It's like no wonder she's cranky.

She made a great bird's sweat cake, though.

She had a rash under that friggin' neck, too. So I'll bring I'll bring some sweat cakes into it. Maybe he he drowned, but he was revived, so he didn't die.

Okay.

And so he has like a traumatic brain injury, which made him the psychopathic killer. Yes. But he still ages. But he got legit burned, like his face got burned, or was it like from the water? Well, Freddie at least was like a joke. Freddie got burned. Jason drowned.

So he was like he had clumps of hair and he was all he was deformed as a child before he was. Which is why he was picked on in camp. Oh, I see. Oh god, when you watch him drown, you can see that he's deformed, like in number one when he's drowning by the boat. Hence the hockey mask and the purple.

Did he go on to love chunk later?

Well, that's what I always think of. And but I would chalk it up as a very bad, bad plot hole. It's just a little hole in the whole situation. Nobody cared. Number two to you, dongo.

All right, so two's a repeat. I gotta keep it though, because it was one of the best scary movies of all. All time is The Exorcist 1973. Just a creepy movie. And of course, it's got the little based on you know, loosely based on truth kind of thing. But it's yeah, scary, freaky. Incredible. The movie is freaky. And excellent acting, and just yeah. That that freaked people out. That was another big people.

Damn right. Yeah. Yeah.

Nice. And I think all of the all of the principal actors in that all scared me, whatever they did after that. Whether it was Ellen Burston or Linda Blair or well, Max One Side I was pretty scary. So they got pictures and Lee J.

Cobb. All right. That's number uh one to you, Kev. Finish her off.

All right. So to bring it in, again, the theme here being kind of bigger was about scary and movies that scared us. And this one scared me to death. There's one other movie that in the same era, and I just remember being at my grandparents' house and being like four or five years old and watching these movies and being scared shitless. I spent most of my time for research trying to find this other movie that I still have no idea what it is. So maybe if somebody here or somebody out there in podcast land, all I remember, it was not in a lab, it was in it the ending of it. It was there was this, it was a a a space creature or something, and at the end of it, this woman had it in a box in like a spare bedroom, and but it was like Oh my god, I think I know what it was. It was like controlling people. I have no idea. I absolutely have no idea what this movie is. It was black and white.

Oh, we're talking about it.

This weird thing that was in the box was like like a blob with an eyeball, and it wasn't the crawling eye. It wasn't, I mean, all these things that AI suggested, never found it. But anyway, if that rings a bell for anybody, send us something and let me know. Because I've been trying to remember this movie for 50 years.

Oh, so you can't even come up with a title?

No, but no, but this is my so that was that was just where I spent most of my time. My pick was known as Quarter Mass and the Pit or Five Million Years to Earth. It was a British horror film based on a novel and a TV series on the BC BBC where they're expanding the underground, the tube, the the subway in London, I think, and they come across like a five million-year-old half man, half-ape skull, but then they keep digging and they find part of well, at first they think it's an unexploded ordinance from World War II, then it turns out to be some kind of strange substance that they can't identify and it's impervious to everything they throw at it. Um, and it just turns into this most freaky ass kind of like satanic thing. There's these creatures, these these uh like insect creatures in the thing, but there's there's like devil spirits in the house next door. It like as a young kid, this thing fucked me up.

Totally.

And probably if I watched it today, I would just laugh my ass off. Um but it was it was just probably it was and it was I like like the where they were working was Hobbs End, and one of those one of the characters makes the the revelation that that Hobb is another name for devil or demon or something like that. So that's where that all ties in. But scared the living Jesus out of me as a young kid. Did you say the year that was? I believe that was 67.

I need to write this down. I apologize.

67. What was the name of it again? So you it was originally Quarter Mass and the Pit, but it was released in the US as five million years to Earth.

Okay, so that's number one of you, brother.

Will you won't you want me to make you? I knew you'd have that coming down fast, but don't let me break you. Tell me, tell me, tell me an answer. You may be a lover, but you wait no dancer. Wait.

Is there a movie or are you just scaring us with your singing?

All right, this movie came out in 1976. I don't think I watched it until 77. The the whole cast is about scary movies. This is the ultimate slasher movie. Unfortunately, it was real. It is not a happy movie at all. It's uh based obviously on Charles Manson. Um Steve Steven Railsback played him, I believe that was his name, Steve Railsback. This movie freaked me out so bad that I did not sleep well for six months. It was horrible. I mean, I'm sorry, but I thought that people were naturally just gonna show up in my house and start stabbing me.

Oh well, why wouldn't you at that age? All right, so that's number one to me then. Of course, it's a repeat. I could not not have this at number one, and it's the exorcist. An incredibly frightening movie to me. I can't describe it, just all the scenes in the movie, just her coming down the steps, her talking to uh ironically, the priest's name or the father was Damien, which was the guy from Neil, right? Right, yeah, you know, just those scenes in that bedroom, and yes, why are they always in the bed once they're possessed? If they walk around, but takes a lot of energy, yeah. Maybe they're just locked in there, you know, but just the the scenes in that movie with the cross, which I won't get into, you know, uh your your mother sucks in hell. The voice that I always have to do this when I think of that movie. Ricky and I used to do it all the time because we found it funny and horrifying, but she'd go, uh you know, you're freaking me out just sitting here. Exactly. It was the most horrifying voice to come out of this little girl. Everything fucking that she would talk to Damien about, like the dialogue between her and the priest. I mean, God, it was just brutile. And the room, like the darkness and the cold in that room was just so it was very well directed, put it that way. And God, how can I not take the exorcist as number one? Like that is chilling to the bone. It's not Joe Schmo coming in with a machete and just cutting someone's.

Both of those freaked me out. Yeah, well I just know I couldn't sleep for six months after Halter Skelter. Anyway, that's number one to you, Donnie.

Cool. So I'm just gonna go with kind of uh an OG. Like, what was the first zombie movie that started the whole thing? Night of the Living Dead. Is that where you're going? Well, Night of the Living Dead is what is believed to be the first zombie movie, which was in 1968. But the actual first zombie movie is called White Zombie. Ooh. Which I wonder if that's where Rob Zombie got his name up with White Zombie, which was in 1932. The movie Zombie is believed to be the first zombie movie. So that just started a genre of movies of zombies, and zombie, the zombie genre goes on endlessly, and still does, yeah, yeah. But great, the Knight of the Living Dead is a great movie, uh, as is Dawn of the Dead. Yeah, and there's so many of them renditions of the Living. So I just wanted to go with that as a kind of a OG.

Yes, awesome starting with white zombie. OG 1932, huh?

Such a I mean, it's oh and Dawn, yes, yeah, so much that you can do with brainless munchers, yeah. Brainless feeding on on brains, yeah. That's all they have a brainstem, right? Is that all they have? Yeah, yeah. And it's just so like everybody knows when you say zombie. We all know exactly what they do. What they're planning for, what they do, what whether, you know, we we know all of the ins and outs of what zombies are about.

Wonder why Dracula only wants our blood, but the zombies want all of it.

Which we all miss, we all skip that true that you know that's like the that's a very classic, almost the beginning of the horror. Dracula was probably one of the first horror backs.

I think Dracula, the original one, was like in the early 20s. I mean back, probably. Oh, maybe before that.

That was the original fables and you know something. And it wasn't the same thing as Frankenstein and Halloween. Thank you.

Yeah, because Frankenstein, the I think it was 1939 or even maybe before that. Like the fact I was almost on my list, and the fact that none of us took those like real like staples of Dracula Frankenstein, yeah, like when Frankenstein throughout throws away. Because they never scared us because they were just kind of kind of done by the thing they get to us, right?

By time, yeah.

But imagine being a kid at that point, right? Right, right. Like that would have been absolutely horrifying. But the one I wanted to ask you guys about before, but I didn't know if someone might have it when you were talking about like cult classics and your number one pick was Eraserhead. Like that popped up so many fucking times in my searches. Like, I already had my list, but I still looked it up.

And meaning the John Lynch one? I don't know. I mean the David Lynch. I don't know. So that was I'm that was an unsettling movie, but I never thought it like the guy, like I don't know if he lives alone, has like a bunch of personalities. And then his like his sperm start growing in the wall. It's uh that's I I mean it was absolutely bizarre, but I don't know if I would consider that it just came up a horror film.

Every list I did, it was like in like the top 20 psychos. Yeah, but exactly.

But some of those lists that you get online are AI generated, and you see the same movies or songs in there that just don't belong. And and so I'm not sure that it's been many, many years since I watched it, but that's but like literally, um what was his big one there? Um Twin Peaks.

Ah, I don't know what Twin Peaks.

You don't know Twin Peaks? Yeah, I know the TV show. I thought it was like a soapbox stuff. Yeah, Twin Peaks was like I know I I know the show.

I don't know the show. Like I never watched it.

I just watched it. Oh, it was it was it was a cool show, but it was definitely dealt with horror, sci-fi, all of that.

I didn't know I would have watched it if I knew that. I just thought it was like a broad soap opera.

By the way, guys, I was dating a girl back in, I don't know, I think it was the early 90s. Her name was Abby.

Normal?

Yeah, she was telling me whose brain I did put in.

And you won't be angry? I will not be angry. Abby someone, Abby someone. Abby who? Abby normal. Abby normal. I'm almost sure that was the name.

Awesome boys. Well, another fun one. Uh, a genre that I didn't know if we were gonna pull off, and I think we did. So thank you, Donald. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, brother Mark. And how. And how. So, anyway, just before we do end this for the day, thank you all out there for listening. We would love for you to check us out at pasttimes at 80shigh.com. That is 80s for 80s. Pastimes at 80shigh.com. Also, shoot us an email at pta80h at gmail.com. One more time, pta 80h at gmail.com. And then check us out on the socials. We're on all of them now, I do believe, or the big boys anyway. And we do have on Facebook past times at 80s high and then past timers at 80s high for any of you that would like to get involved. Love to see your feedback there. Um, love seeing the feedback we've been getting, and we can't appreciate it more. But anyway, and if anybody knows that movie I was talking about, please! It's been so long. The more the better. But awesome. Thank you all so much, and we are out.