Past Times at 80's High · Episode 62

Best 90s Rock & Grunge Songs (1990–1994): Our Ultimate Mixtape

Mark, AJ, Dongo, Kevin count down Mixed Tape Series — 90s Rock, Part 1 (1990–1994) on Past Times at 80's High, spotlighting 'Don't Follow' - Alice in Chains...

Mark's Mixtape - Track 1

'Don't Follow' - Alice in Chains (Jar of Flies, 1994) Mark's Mixtape - Track 1SongMark
Praises the EP's acoustic arrangement and vocal harmonies between Jerry Cantrell and Layne Staley, and reflects on Staley's declining health being visible even in this relatively serene unplugged performance.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 1

'Man in the Box' - Alice in Chains (Facelift, 1990) AJ's Mixtape - Track 1SongAJ
Precedes the pick with a spoken tribute to Cypress Hill's 'Hits from the Bong,' a favorite hangout anthem from his pre-podcast friend group; admits grunge initially felt like a rival genre encroaching on his beloved hair metal, but singles out this song's riff and vocal performance as an exception.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 1

'Today' - Smashing Pumpkins (Siamese Dream, 1993) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 1SongDongo
Discusses using several of his picks as the soundtrack to a real personal video of his time flying in the Navy, and praises Billy Corgan's post-music career as a sports-talk interviewer and pro-wrestling promoter.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 1

'Sex Type Thing' - Stone Temple Pilots (Core, 1992) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 1SongKevin
Discusses the band's Southern California origins despite frequent mistaken association with Seattle, the real story of an early band-name idea rejected by management, and Scott Weiland's public clarifications that the lyrics describe, rather than condone, a nonconsensual scenario.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 2

'Hellraiser' - Motörhead (March ör Die, 1992) Mark's Mixtape - Track 2SongMark
Discovered through a heavy-rotation KISS-adjacent Pandora station; praises drummer Phil 'Filthy Animal' Taylor's stamina and Lemmy Kilmister's uncompromising, unpolished rock-and-roll lifestyle and interview persona.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 2

'No More Tears' - Ozzy Osbourne (No More Tears, 1991) AJ's Mixtape - Track 2SongAJ
Notes the album also features Lemmy Kilmister as a co-writer on the song 'Hellraiser,' tying it to Mark's pick, and praises Zakk Wylde's guitar work throughout the track as a tribute following Osbourne's real death.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 2

'Vaseline' - Stone Temple Pilots (Purple, 1994) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 2SongDongo
Discusses bassist Robert DeLeo's wah-pedal bass tone and a real anecdote about Scott Weiland misremembering the Eagles lyric 'life in the fast lane' as 'flies in the vaseline' as a child, which inspired the song's title.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 2

'Killing in the Name' - Rage Against the Machine (Rage Against the Machine, 1992) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 2SongKevin
Discusses the song's real inspiration from the Rodney King beating and LA riots, praises Tom Morello's inventive guitar work, and calls out what he sees as hypocrisy in the band continuing to perform the song at large commercial festivals in later years.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 3

'Spoonman' - Soundgarden (Superunknown, 1994) Mark's Mixtape - Track 3SongMark
Calls Chris Cornell the best vocalist of the grunge era, discusses this as one of the band's heavier songs, and references Cornell's later death and his real cover of Guns N' Roses' 'Patience.'

AJ's Mixtape - Track 3

'Coming of Age' - Damn Yankees (Damn Yankees, 1990) AJ's Mixtape - Track 3SongAJ
A favorite album of his late brother David; praises the supergroup lineup of Ted Nugent, Tommy Shaw, and Jack Blades, and expresses continued hope for a full-scale reunion tour.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 3

'Have You Seen Me' - GWAR (America Must Be Destroyed, 1992) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 3SongDongo
A deliberate 'shock pick'; discusses frontman Dave Brockie's (Oderus Urungus) elaborate stage costume and a real, mid-tour prop-confiscation incident with police, and a personal memory of seeing the band live in Seattle.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 3

'All Apologies' - Nirvana (In Utero, 1993) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 3SongKevin
Discusses the song's real double-A-side single release alongside 'Rape Me,' the strong melodic hooks he found compelling despite disliking most grunge, and Kurt Cobain reportedly listening to the Beatles' 'Norwegian Wood' on repeat while writing it.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 4

'Angry Again' - Megadeth (Last Action Hero: The Album, 1993) Mark's Mixtape - Track 4SongMark
Discovered the song at his gym; taught himself to play the riff on guitar and praises Dave Mustaine's songwriting despite acknowledging his divisive singing voice.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 4

'I Stand Alone' - Jackyl (Jackyl, 1992) AJ's Mixtape - Track 4SongAJ
Praises the whole debut album, singling out frontman Jesse James Dupree's distinctive voice and the band's better-known chainsaw-solo song 'The Lumberjack.'

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 4

'Why Go' - Pearl Jam (Ten, 1991) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 4SongDongo
Discusses the song's real basis on institutionalized youth with learning disabilities, and reflects on how creative, differently-wired kids are often failed by standard educational systems.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 4

'Sabotage' - Beastie Boys (Ill Communication, 1994) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 4SongKevin
Discusses the band's evolution from punk to hip-hop, and a real story about producer Mario Caldato Jr. pushing the group to finally record new material, which became the inspiration for the song's mock-villain lyrics about him.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 5

'All Apologies' - Nirvana (repeat pick) Mark's Mixtape - Track 5SongMark
A deliberate repeat of Kevin's earlier pick; ties the song to real memories of working out with his late brother David shortly before David's death, and its lyric about self-blame.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 5

'All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You' - Heart (Brigade, 1990) AJ's Mixtape - Track 5SongAJ
Closes side one with a deliberate change of pace; praises Ann Wilson's vocal power, and the group debates the moral implications of the song's storyline about a one-night stand resulting in a child kept secret from the biological father.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 5

'Surrounded' - Dream Theater (Images and Words, 1992) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 5SongDongo
Discusses the band's progressive-metal musicianship, naming drummer Mike Portnoy, guitarist John Petrucci, singer James LaBrie, and keyboardist/lyricist Kevin Moore.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 5

'Blues Before and After' - The Smithereens (11, 1989; single released 1990) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 5SongKevin
Praises the whole album, and discusses the real story behind the band's better-known song 'A Girl Like You,' written for the film Say Anything but ultimately cut after frontman Pat DiNizio refused to alter lyrics Cameron Crowe felt were too literal.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 6

'Pretty Tied Up' - Guns N' Roses (Use Your Illusion II, 1991) Mark's Mixtape - Track 6SongMark
Ties the pick to real memories of working out at Galaxy Gym in the early 90s, and praises bassist Duff McKagan, calling him his second-favorite bass player of all time behind Geddy Lee.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 6

'Unholy' - KISS (Revenge, 1992) AJ's Mixtape - Track 6SongAJ
Co-written with Vinnie Vincent; discusses the song, and Gene Simmons's return to the make-up era generally, as reigniting his own fandom after a rocky non-make-up 1980s stretch for the band.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 6

'It Ain't Like That' - Alice in Chains (Facelift, 1990) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 6SongDongo
Calls Alice in Chains his favorite band of the era, no contest; exact song title inferred from a heavily paraphrased riff/lyric description in the source audio.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 6

'Overblown' - Mudhoney (Singles: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, 1992) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 6SongKevin
Discusses the band's roots as Mr. Epp and the Calculations and its members' later ties to Green River and Pearl Jam, and the song's lyrical pushback against Seattle grunge hype.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 7

'Vaseline' - Stone Temple Pilots (repeat pick) Mark's Mixtape - Track 7SongMark
Ties the pick to a lighthearted, unverified personal anecdote from the mid-90s; calls it his favorite STP song over 'Sex Type Thing.'

AJ's Mixtape - Track 7

'Blaze of Glory' - Jon Bon Jovi (Blaze of Glory: Young Guns II soundtrack, 1990) AJ's Mixtape - Track 7SongAJ
A real Billboard Hot 100 number-one single; discusses the song's Old West, Billy the Kid framing tied to the film, and a personal memory of it playing constantly on the radio during a restaurant job.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 7

'Lost in Germany' - King's X (King's X, 1992) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 7SongDongo
Praises the underrated progressive-rock trio's unique sound, likening it to a blend of the Beatles, Pearl Jam, and Van Halen, and recommends their debut album Gretchen Goes to Nebraska.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 7

'Bad Luck' - Social Distortion (Social Distortion, 1990) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 7SongKevin
Discusses frontman Mike Ness's rockabilly-inflected punk sneer, compares the whole self-titled album favorably against the band's earlier radio hit 'Story of My Life,' and notes the band's continued touring.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 8

'Unholy' - KISS (repeat pick) Mark's Mixtape - Track 8SongMark
A deliberate repeat of AJ's earlier pick; calls it his favorite song on Revenge and defends Gene Simmons's early-80s non-make-up material as underrated.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 8

'Of Wolf and Man' - Metallica (Metallica, 1991) AJ's Mixtape - Track 8SongAJ
Ties the pick to a real, cherished car stereo he installed in a $300 Honda Civic bought from a listener, and discusses preferring the band's earlier, thrashier albums to their later Load/Reload era.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 8

'Far Behind' - Candlebox (Candlebox, 1993) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 8SongDongo
Discusses the band as a near one-album wonder; the group jokingly debates whether the band's name itself contributed to their fading commercial momentum.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 8

'Nearly Lost You' - Screaming Trees (Sweet Oblivion, 1992; also on the Singles soundtrack) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 8SongKevin
Calls the band a one-hit wonder with an unusually memorable name; the group speculates about record-industry pressure and shifting attention as reasons for the band's fade despite the song's strength.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 9

'Gave Up' - Nine Inch Nails (Broken EP, 1992) Mark's Mixtape - Track 9SongMark
Discusses being drawn in by the song's music video, filmed at the real Los Angeles house associated with the 1969 Manson Family murder of Sharon Tate, where Trent Reznor lived and recorded for a period before the property was later demolished.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 9

'Monkey Business' - Skid Row (Slave to the Grind, 1991) AJ's Mixtape - Track 9SongAJ
Praises Sebastian Bach's voice as among the greatest in rock and roll, and the band's choice to lean into heavier, faster material on this album rather than chase the era's fading glam-pop trends.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 9

'Infected' - Bad Religion (Stranger Than Fiction, 1994) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 9SongDongo
Cites a real quote from guitarist/songwriter Brett Gurewitz describing the song as being about a dark, unhealthy romance in which one partner is afflicted and the other addicted.

Kevin's Mixtape - Track 9

'Anyone Can Play Guitar' - Radiohead (Pablo Honey, 1993) Kevin's Mixtape - Track 9SongKevin
Discusses never fully sharing other fans' reverence for guitarist Jonny Greenwood, and a broader theory that improving studio technology and production polish gradually erased the distinct, identifiable guitar tones of earlier rock eras.

Mark's Mixtape - Track 10

'Down in a Hole' - Alice in Chains (Dirt, 1992) Mark's Mixtape - Track 10SongMark
Calls it a desert-island song; discusses the song's heavy harmonies, its music video's desert-trailer setting, and a personal, half-joking tie to living down a long driveway with his wife Val.

AJ's Mixtape - Track 10

'Outshined' - Soundgarden (Badmotorfinger, 1991) AJ's Mixtape - Track 10SongAJ
Bookends his mixtape with grunge despite calling himself 'not a big grunge guy'; praises the song's opening riff and Chris Cornell's vocal performance.

Dongo's Mixtape - Track 10

'Say Hello 2 Heaven' - Temple of the Dog (Temple of the Dog, 1991) Dongo's Mixtape - Track 10SongDongo
Discusses the one-off grunge supergroup lineup featuring Chris Cornell alongside future Pearl Jam members Eddie Vedder, Jeff Ament, and Stone Gossard.

Mentioned

Cypress Hill - 'Hits from the Bong' MentionedSong
Referenced as a favorite pre-podcast hangout song from AJ's friend group, used as a spoken intro before his first pick.
Jerry Cantrell, Layne Staley (Alice in Chains) MentionedMusician
Discussed at length across multiple Alice in Chains picks throughout the episode, including reflections on Staley's declining health and eventual real death.
Scott Weiland (Stone Temple Pilots) MentionedMusician
Discussed across multiple STP picks, including his public clarifications about the meaning of 'Sex Type Thing' and the real story behind 'Vaseline''s title.
Billy Corgan MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Dongo's Smashing Pumpkins pick, noting his real post-music career as a podcast interviewer and professional wrestling promoter.
Kurt Cobain, Courtney Love MentionedMusician
Discussed at length in connection with Kevin's Nirvana pick, including the real double-A-side single release and speculation about Love's family history.
Dave Brockie / Oderus Urungus (GWAR) MentionedMusician
Discussed at length in connection with Dongo's GWAR pick, including a real prop-confiscation incident with police.
Mac Sabbath, Dread Zeppelin MentionedBand
Referenced as similarly theatrical novelty tribute acts, tied to the GWAR discussion.
Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Kevin's pick, including a real anecdote about never trimming his guitar strings.
Mario Caldato Jr. (Beastie Boys producer) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Kevin's 'Sabotage' pick as the real inspiration for the song's mock-villain lyrics.
Ted Nugent, Tommy Shaw, Jack Blades (Damn Yankees) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with AJ's pick and hopes for a full reunion tour.
Dave Portnoy MentionedNews/History
Referenced in a tangent confusing drummer Mike Portnoy with the media personality of the same surname.
Duff McKagan MentionedMusician
Praised at length in connection with Mark's Guns N' Roses pick, including his real SiriusXM radio show co-hosted with his wife.
Sebastian Bach (Skid Row) MentionedMusician
Discussed at length in connection with AJ's pick, including speculation about a possible future reunion with the band.
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Mark's pick and the real history of the Los Angeles house he lived and recorded in, associated with the 1969 Manson Family murders.
Jonny Greenwood, Thom Yorke (Radiohead) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Kevin's pick and a broader tangent about AI-generated music and declining production distinctiveness in modern recordings.
Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, James LaBrie, Kevin Moore (Dream Theater) MentionedMusician
Full lineup discussed in connection with Dongo's pick.
Eddie Vedder, Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard (Pearl Jam) MentionedMusician
Discussed in connection with Dongo's Temple of the Dog pick as bandmates in the one-off supergroup, and separately in a tangent about a real Pearl Jam cover of Ted Nugent's 'Stranglehold.'
Full Episode Transcript

Auto-generated transcript via Buzzsprout. Speakers are labeled generically (not by name) since automatic transcription cannot identify voices.

Speaker 1(1:05)

Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of Past Times at 80s High. Got another great one for you today, a fan favorite, which uh is the mixed tape series. And we're gonna do the mixtape series from the early 90s, which is gonna be 1990 through 1994, and we're doing you know, rock and grunge basically. We're gonna try to keep it to those genres, although you know how we roll that at times, but as always, I got the boys here with me. Hello, brother Mike.

Speaker 2(1:40)

Hey, how's it going, peeps?

Speaker 1(1:42)

Dongo. Hey, what's happening? Nothing ice hole. And Kev Hello! Hello, bastards. And we always get rolling right out of the gate. However, uh, before you do your shout-outs, Kev, I just did want to get something out there quickly, and that is our little sidecast that we haven't done a lot of recently. Preachers of the night. Just a little Kiss sidecast we do. Please uh keep in mind that we're gonna have an episode coming up pretty soon because KISS has this landlocked cruise in Vegas. There, this is their second year doing it, and it's not a fucking cruise, which angers me. But keep your eyes peeled for that one or your ears peeled for that one, folks, because we're gonna get involved with something with that soon. But Kevin, if you have shout-outs.

Speaker 3(2:39)

Oh, I have shout-outs. Want to welcome our new friends in Greater Acra, which is down in Ghana. That is the, I believe, West Coast of Africa, underneath the little bulging side of Africa. Grand Berthold. I'm gonna butcher. Birth birth birth girl birth bergamot.

Speaker 1(3:09)

Most have a rod up your poop.

Speaker 4(3:15)

I hope I got that right.

Speaker 3(3:18)

It's it's uh south of Paris into France, there is what it is. Uh we got Dubot, New South Wales, and we've got uh Nashod, which is uh in Germany. So we've gone internationally. We were pretty local there for a while, but we've gone global again.

Speaker 5(3:40)

Yet again.

Speaker 3(3:41)

I mean, we're everywhere.

Speaker 1(3:42)

Awesome, and we appreciate it wherever you are. Uh, what I was gonna say about the South Africa thing is that is where the breaching of the great white sharks are most often. They breach and eat seals, and it is a beautiful sight. Yes. Bringing seals. Oh, lots of uh protein and fat. Yes, it is a good meal.

Speaker 3(4:06)

All right. The mechanic said I blew a seal. I said, leave my personal life out of this and fix the car.

Speaker 1(4:11)

No, no, I isn't it looks like you might have blown a seal. No, no, that's just some ice cream. All right, so brother Mark, I believe it's your pick and you're on hairs.

Speaker 2(4:31)

Yes, indeed. And um, yeah, I think the 90s have been a little underrepresented on our uh wonderful podcast. So we're we're doing early 90s, and uh it was a lot of good stuff out there. Obviously, we know what grunge did to the hair metal scene and everything. We've talked about that a lot, but anyway, side one. The first song on side one is coming from Alice and Chains. It's a great song called Don't Follow, which came off the EP called Jarflies in 1994. It's uh it's a great song. One of the things I love about Alice and Chains is the fact that their harmonies are incredible, they are great singers. Starts off with an apeggio. When it the apeggio keeps going through most of it, and um I believe it's uh Jerry Cantrell who does the first part of the singing, and then uh Staley, Lane Staley comes in, God rest his soul. Just a fun song. He put he does a great harmonica on this, and uh it's the unplugged version. I mean, if you saw Staley at that point, you knew he wasn't gonna be around much longer. Even though he lived till what, 2002? But anyway, that's my first song. Lovely.

Speaker 1(6:19)

Awesome pick, brother. Alright, so we're off to me for song one. Forgive me if this is a tiny bit of a rule breaking. Uh Mark discussed, you know, grunge ruining the term hair metal, which I don't love, but that's what we call it because it's how people identify with it, unfortunately. But I had an issue with it because just like I was only allowed to like kiss in the day, I feel like they kind of destroyed the music I love. So it was very hard for me to get into it. But uh, I'm gonna have an intro to my first song, if you guys are okay with that, because it's a little bit of hip-hop happening here. This goes back to the early 90s, obviously, that's what we're doing. But some of the boys, some of my best friends that I hung out with, Dongo, I think you were missing in this time, off in the Navy and college and whatnot. But uh, DeGee, Bob V, so many others, and our dear late brother David and I used to sing this all the time. This is not my song, this is the intro, kind of like hell yin into electric eye, if you will. This is a song from Cypress Hill called Hits from the Bong.

Speaker 6(7:45)

Hits from the bone.

Speaker 1(8:01)

Come along, take a hit from the bong. And we used to just sing this whole album, I believe it's called Black Sunday, but we're just kicking in with that little bit of just got an ounce in the mail, and it's gonna fade out, and it's gonna go into my first song, which is a grunge song, and I'm going with Man in the Box. I think it's a great song, and because it was so overplayed back then, not to me, I loved it. And that's what I'm gonna go with because I like I said, I just think the riff is unreal in it. It's a classic. I think that I mean, his voice is just perfect for what he was doing. I'll put it that way. Yeah, so yeah, I'm not a big grunge guy, everyone, but I got a couple bookends perhaps. So I'll leave it at that and go to you, dongo.

Speaker 7(9:43)

Cool, yeah, that was an awesome, awesome song, definitely for that time. So, mine, like you mentioned the navy, like uh this the 90s was kind of a decade where I was in school for the first half, and then I got into the navy, and a lot of these songs I put on a I don't know if I ever shared it with you guys, but we made a video of like stuff I was doing in the Navy, flying around doing cool stuff. Uh, and I put a lot of these songs as like music backgrounds to it. So I'm gonna try to keep it in in the um uh grunge, but I do venture into some little offshoots. You know, I'll try not to cheat too bad. But my first one is opening it up with a good way to open up a mixtape, and it's with smashing pumpkins today. I love that song. Yeah, I just love the intro. Uh great tune. Um, off of Siamese Dream. It was July 1993. Um, and Billy Corbin now is doing awesome work as a as an interviewer, you know. Oh, he's a fantastic podcast, so he's done really well with that, and I think that's uh pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 1(11:23)

So and he owns one of the wrestling franchises as well. Oh yeah? Mm-hmm. Is it not WW uh WCW, whatever it is, but yeah, he owns one. Did you know that? I did not know. I did not know that.

Speaker 3(11:37)

I knew he was a big sports fan, has like all kinds of baseball stats and collects cards and and all that.

Speaker 1(11:44)

So but he's the owner of one of the bigger wrestling, not the bigger, bigger ones, but it's not TNA or right. We have to look it up, but he definitely is part of that. But yeah, I like his podcast too. I think he he's a good interviewer. He kind of digs at people, and I like that. Nice dongo, great pick, and to you, Kev.

Speaker 3(12:11)

So the 90s I feel is is kind of weird. Um I don't know if I was burning out on our hair metal or if it was just kind of playing its course at the time, or or it was for me, and I wasn't a huge fan of a lot of stuff coming out. Like you, AJ. I'm not a big grunge guy, which really looking at this, it was really a short, small kind of happening. You know what I mean? There's not a lot to it, there's not a ton of bands. It's it's a you know it's a small subject group. Absolutely. Um I do think that Man in the Box was definitely one, it had a lot more soul and funk to it than the rest of them. So kudos on on that pick. Um so I kind of picked some stuff that I was in a I went in many different directions at the time. Um, but I kind of picked some stuff that I was listening to that fits into this category. And the first one was a band that really, really dug, they were into cars, I guess, and they really dug the STP label, stickers. And so they ended up, of course, becoming Stone Temple pilots. Um, originally the name of the band just because they liked the STP logo was going to be Shirley Temple's pussy.

Speaker 8(13:31)

Warning, warning, danger, danger.

Speaker 3(13:34)

Um apparently management thought not a great idea. I like it better. Well, yeah, absolutely. Um maybe, maybe 20 years later that would have worked for him, but back then I think everything is still a little bit uptight. But I mean, I I liked that I really like that whole first album was and that's really I mean they say that you know the heavy rotation on MTV kind of at the time that everything else was happening kind of got them pushed into grunge, but I don't really I think they're a rock band. Yeah, I mean I agree classify as grunge, but much more rock. Um, so the song is is sex type thing. Wheeling had to had to consistently like reaffirm the fact that no, I'm not promoting date rape. This is not a first person, this is not me talking about what I want to do. I want to get close to you. Talking about a situation, not not condoning it. Um but he had a great, I don't know, and again, sad to see him go too early, but he he just had a great style about him, um, a great sense, and just a great band. Awesome.

Speaker 2(15:10)

They weren't from Seattle, they they were the one so-called grunge band, I think that was from LA. Am I right?

Speaker 7(15:17)

California, yeah. Uh and some of them came from Jersey, actually. They moved from Jersey to California.

Speaker 2(15:23)

Oh, all right.

Speaker 1(15:24)

Well, I mean when Mark thinks grunge, he thinks Seattle 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 2(15:30)

So anyway, you uh mentioned STV. The stickers, I remember that. Right across the st uh street from the elementary school, Lakeway Elementary, Littleton, New Hampshire. Debbie Clish, you work there, you're a regular listener. Yes. And uh back in the day, us Lebanese kids running around, we got really dark in the summertime, and he called us little monkeys.

Speaker 1(15:54)

Yeah, the STP place. That's all he meant. Uh back to what you were saying, Kev, with the Shirley Temple pussy. I guess what I wasn't considering when you brought it up in the beginning is it might have flown better if she wasn't a child actress. Yeah.

Speaker 8(16:12)

Warning, warning, danger, danger.

Speaker 3(16:16)

Well, she was a full-grown adult by then, but yeah, comes to mind as a little Goldilocks girl singing animal crackers. Maybe, maybe that might put some people off. Exactly.

Speaker 2(16:30)

Cindy, Cindy Brady was the new Shirley Temple, I thought. Yeah.

Speaker 5(16:35)

Awesome.

Speaker 1(16:37)

Nice. Uh, Dongo, just going back to you for one second, this was grungeon and rock. So you're not cheating if you go in the rock direction. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Nice.

Speaker 2(16:49)

All right, so off to you, brother. Okay, this song is called Hellraiser by a band called Motorhead. They bring you rock and roll, as we know. This is from Marchadie 1992. Great riff. Um bands that I have recently gotten into through my kiss channel on uh Pandora that I listened to with the gym. And what I've done with this uh channel is songs that are very heavy, I put on. And uh great riff, like I said, and just one thing about Motorhead, they are I I feel really sorry for that drummer.

Speaker 9(18:04)

I mean, he's they're like freaking 150, 175 beats per minute.

Speaker 1(18:09)

Filthy Phil? Filthy Phil.

Speaker 2(18:11)

Oh my god. He must have arms of steel. But uh, anyways, yeah, it's just one of those bands that I've gotten into, and I love him. I'd love those guys. Awesome and and they they have great stuff well into the 21st century. God rest his soul. Lenny, you know, but uh or lemme. I'm glad you corrected that because you were getting bunkered. No, I meant lemmy, damn it. So anyway, yeah, I went with that one, and it there's a lot of motorhead that I keep giving thumbs up on that. Yeah, there's some songs I probably like better, but they did not fit the 90 to 94. So, anywho, that's my second song on the first side.

Speaker 3(18:54)

That's one band, one musician that can never be accused of selling out. No, Lemmy was Lemmy. Lemmy Lemmy Basement apartment down the street from a rainbow. Drinking fucking Jack Daniels and playing the poker machine.

Speaker 2(19:10)

Poker Machine, not on budget, right?

Speaker 3(19:12)

Doing interviews in his underwear.

Speaker 2(19:14)

I love his interviews because he's freaking so honest. And if you say something that pisses him off, he would have told you about it.

Speaker 1(19:22)

And he had enough money to remove those fucking boils from his face, and he never did it.

Speaker 7(19:29)

He didn't sell out, and most singers like you know, try to protect their voice and you know, savor it and and do things to his was to drink whiskey and smoke cigarettes to make sure that that his voice remained that way.

Speaker 1(19:41)

Nah, he lived a life, yeah. He did without question. Awesome pick, Mark. And believe it or not, my number two song is gonna kind of have a tie-in, I believe. Okay, and I'm going with an epic, I called this because it's a pretty long song uh from 1991, off of its title track, No More Tears, by Ozzy Osborne. And on set album, Mark, uh Ozzy and Lemmy do a version of Hellraiser. Okay. I believe that's on No More Tears. Uh, hopefully I didn't F that up. But written by Ozzy and Lemmy, so but I'm going with No More Tears. I call it an epic because it's so long. And Zach's guitar, a little tribute to Ozzy, too, you know, after his passing. But the the guitar by Zack Wilde in this is just incredible. Like between each verse, he just does something different with the guitar, and it really kicks ass. And I love the opening bass line. Which is why I'm going with this one too, because well, I have more to talk about later. So I'll leave it at that. Dungo.

Speaker 2(21:50)

Alright, so one I'll say it very quickly. Yeah. Um take your time. There is uh, I mean, I don't know if you guys get it up there, but 98.5, the sports hub with Felger and Maz. They uh do a a uh what what's the word? But they do Maz is tears. Maz is tears.

Speaker 10(22:10)

Those are the tears of the club.

Speaker 11(22:12)

Maz is tears, the second tier. Hold on, let me get my pen. Maz is tears, Dallas, Buffalo, Tennessee, Maz is tears. Okay, here we go. Hold on, look at that. It's that time of the week.

Speaker 2(22:30)

No more tiers. Uh he has three levels, and that's my one of my favorite. Parts they have a great show, but anyway, that's it. All right.

Speaker 3(22:39)

Behind the bar it was no more beers, no more beers.

Speaker 1(22:44)

Nice. Let's call Dungo.

Speaker 7(22:49)

Well, I am circling back to STP as well. Also, they started off as Mighty Joe Young as well. And then they they that was taken, so then they tried to do the the uh Shirley Temple's you know what, and then they wanted something that was STP, so Stone Temple Pilots just kind of came out arbitrarily, and it had no meaning. But I like the song Vaseline, it's a very useful uh substance, but anyways, especially for Shirley Temple's pussy.

Speaker 8(23:23)

Warning, warning, danger, danger. Oh my god.

Speaker 2(23:29)

I I uh I have nothing to say, I can't add anything to that.

Speaker 7(23:34)

So, what I thought was funny about the song, it was off the album. What was that? What was this album? This was Purple, yes, off the purple album, which is there in June 1994. It was written by Robert DeLeo, who's the bass player, and he used his uh signature bass with a Wawa pedal, which was kind of cool to get that sound. Um, but Scott Wheland wrote the lyrics, and he wrote the lyrics based on when he was a kid, he thought the song Um Life in the Fast Lane was Flies in the Vaseline.

Speaker 6(24:09)

So, you know, flies in the Vaseline So they're gonna lose everything all the time.

Speaker 7(24:15)

You know that and I kind of related to that because I always mess up song lyrics too. You know, I always hear the wrong lyrics, but I thought that was kind of funny.

Speaker 12(24:23)

Flies in the fasting we are sometimes so again, just another arbitrary line that just came from a childhood memory of him.

Speaker 7(24:55)

And uh, I just like the vibe of that song. It's pretty cool. Awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3(24:59)

Yeah, nice, don't go. Yeah, I still think we should do an episode on the misheard lyrics. There's yeah, yeah, tough ones out there.

Speaker 1(25:06)

That's a tough one, though. That's I don't know if I could pick that one. Maybe not enough for everybody, but yeah. You never know. Awesome, awesome pick, Don.

Speaker 3(25:16)

Off to you, Kev. All right. Well, Donald just mentioned the bass player using the Wawa pedal, and the guitarist from this band has no fear of the Wawa pedal. For my money, Rage Against the Machine was the cream of the crop for this era. Um so my song is Killing in the Name.

Speaker 13(25:44)

Killing in the Name.

Speaker 3(26:02)

I love all their music. Um, I love the the the rage and and where that comes from and all that. I just have some disagreements about their actual follow-through. Like Lemmy, who we just talked about, was as honest and straightforward as the day is long. I don't know if they set out to be hypocrites, uh, but when you look back, killing in the name was inspired by the Rodney King, where the whole country saw pieces of video of this guy getting beaten by the cops, and everybody went, Oh my god, that's terrible. And of course it is. What you didn't see was this rancid piece of shit driving through playgrounds at 90 miles an hour and threatening people's lives, as well as the police. I'm not I'm not excusing police brutality at all. It's just there's two sides to every story. Um, but for me, the the ultimate with this song, the the ultimate irony, the ultimate hypocrisy is when they did their I think it was 2022, they went out, and of course they played Killing in the Name, and just the image of everybody in the audience with their N95 masks on, screaming, fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. I'm sorry you're wrong. You will clear exactly what they tell you. Right.

Speaker 2(27:28)

Rage for the machine.

Speaker 3(27:29)

Yeah, you're yeah, you're raging with the machine, is what you're doing now. And again, I I just I love the band. I think Morello is one of the most inventive guitarists. I love the story about him talking about um somebody when he first started playing, somebody was like, he didn't he never he never cut his guitar strings when when he when he wound them up and and poking everyone in the middle. You gotta be the best. If you're if you're gonna walk around without trimming your guitar strings off, you you gotta be you gotta be good enough to tell people it's okay. You'll poke your eyes out. Exactly. The other thing is that um I I just uh made me think of you, AJ, because uh they say fuck 17 times in killing on the name. So I I would think that that would be, you know, maybe one of your favorite rage against the machine songs. Uh it's too bad though. I mean, honestly, that's a great song. I like I said, I like all that they do. Maybe when we get to the second half of the 90s, we can get to the album that was just a virtual greatest hits of theirs, um, which really is where I my mind kept going, but I'm like, nope, nope, the date's not there. I know. Yeah, struggle. Yeah, but still, I mean, again, I like everything they do, even though they sold out.

Speaker 1(28:52)

They aren't Lemmy, they were hypocritical. Awesome, Kevin. Well put. Very well put. All right, where are we? Number three to you, Mark. Okay, all my friends are brown and red.

Speaker 2(29:40)

Uh, this is Soundgarden Spoon Man from Super Unknown and 1994. To me, it's one of Soundgarden's heaviest songs. So yeah, Chris Cornell is the lead singer of Soundgarden. I do believe he had the best, by far the best voice in the grunge movement. He the range the man had, and so good. And I think this is probably my second favorite band during this time in that genre. And to me, this is one of the heavier songs, and he went on and did other things, and unfortunately, he ended his own life, if I'm correct. I don't know what happened, but allegedly allegedly, uh well, same with somebody else, but uh yeah, I mean, just great guitars, great guitars, great singing. I mean, that sounds boring and cliche, but this is my favorite Soundgarden song, and I had to put one of them on my tape because Damn right. I love the tune, man.

Speaker 1(30:41)

You like, brother. And fuck, his voice is just incredible.

Speaker 2(30:45)

It's unbelievable. He did uh he did a version of uh Patience from G and R. Um, yeah, it was very good. So and an early 90s song Okay, well, it doesn't matter when it came out. He did a version of Patience. If you pick Patience, fantastic then. And no, it wasn't an eight nineties song, it was an 80s song.

Speaker 1(31:11)

Oh, it was okay. Yes, all right, I saw take it easy. Sit down now. Awesome, yeah, great band, great song. Okay, number three to me. I am a different type of person, so I'm going off, you know, to a super group here from uh this is 1990, their debut album, and it's a song called Coming of Age by Damn New York, and I'm gonna see it. There's a lot of incredible songs on it, but this really makes me think of our brother David Mark. He sang it. Yeah, he sang it and he just loved this song. He turned me on to this album, which didn't take much turning knowing Nugent was on it. But my god, I mean Jack Blades, uh Tommy Shaw just unbelievable. What an incredible band. I will not get into the shed tour thing we've talked about a million times, but fuck, that should happen. There you go. There's another one for you, Kev. But I just go ahead, Dungo.

Speaker 7(33:21)

Was Tommy Shaw torn with Sticks when they just recently came by? I believe he was. Oh, I don't quote. And he bombed, I bummed, I missed that.

Speaker 1(33:28)

Yeah, that was Sticks in Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah. But uh yeah, I just what a great album. What an incredible super group, which I could remember. I was it Motley Crue we saw them open for uh in OOB, but just to see the new John stage is fun no matter where you see him.

Speaker 2(33:53)

Even now to this day.

Speaker 1(33:54)

Oh, absolutely. But great song, coming of age, off to you, Donald.

Speaker 7(34:00)

Cool. Uh, so this is where on my album I throw in a little like shock pick to make people say, like, whoa, what you know, what's going on here? And it's a shock metal group. Guar. Ah, yeah. So the song is Have You Seen Me? It's March of 1992 off the American Must Be Destroyed album. Uh the album was uh inspired by an earlier tour they had in 1990, where the lead singer Dave Brocky uh got into trouble because if you've ever seen them, they they wear like these massive costumes, and the lead singer Dave Brocky wears this like phallic cock, basically. You know, it's like uh you know a penile in uh what do they call it? Prosthetic penile attachment, and uh he got into trouble with the cops and they and they confiscated it because it like shoots out liquid and you know they shoot all blood and piss and it's funny.

Speaker 2(35:05)

That is a shock, Pick Don't go.

Speaker 7(35:07)

The name of the prosthetic penile attachment is the cuttlefish of Katuhu. But if you've ever heard the song Have You See Me by Guar, it's just it's hilarious and it's rocking because it starts off kind of like jazzy, you know.

Speaker 12(35:23)

Mother been stealing your babies, gag Braton and baby.

Speaker 14(35:33)

Then I sucked out its brain.

Speaker 7(35:37)

They were not too sure.

Speaker 14(35:40)

Yeah, my bloated love knuckles, my bloated love knuckles, like bad buckle.

Speaker 7(35:51)

I gave it up That's a hilarious song.

Speaker 15(35:58)

God damn it, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3(36:32)

Is is that guy's real name? Isn't his real name Odorous Orungus, something like that? Yeah. Stage name.

Speaker 2(36:40)

Okay, I was gonna say his mother named him and father named him Odorous.

Speaker 16(36:45)

Okay.

Speaker 1(36:46)

That's a perfect uh band. You know, like a lot of like Kiss Wasp, like a lot of those bands that were theatrical that probably wouldn't have done anything if they didn't say, we're gonna fucking really go for it, you know, because their costumes were incredible.

Speaker 7(37:07)

Yeah, yeah. I I saw them in Seattle when I was in the Navy, and uh, it's like going to the blue man group, you know, you gotta wear like the trash bag, you know.

Speaker 3(37:19)

Oh, if you're in the front, you mean yeah, in in that genre, and I'm I'm gonna hope that nobody's picked him, but um Mac Sabbath. Have you seen Mac Sabbath? Ah, yeah. They all dress up like all the the McDonald's characters and play Sabbath songs, and then Dred Zeppelin was from this era too. They did uh reggae versions of of Led Zeppelin songs with an Elvis impersonator. Like, okay, we got a little everything here. Something for everyone. Bring the kids.

Speaker 1(37:49)

Max Abbott always Max Abbott always plays on the Monsters of Rock cruise. I've never gotten to see it, but I've seen it on YouTube. It's pretty effing funny. Oh, it's wild. Nice pick, Donald. All right, Kevin, to you.

Speaker 3(38:06)

Alright, so I gotta bring these boys in because they were the um spearhead of of the grunge moment, shall we call it, and that is of course nirvana. Um again, I just I I selling angst to teenagers is like the easiest thing in the world to do. And I remember talking with younger people about how hey, where are the happy songs? And they didn't want happy songs. I mean, we had Van Halen, let's go find some women and get drunk, and and this became everything, you know, just whitey shit. I mean, there was something to it. I I think had he survived, I think he might have come out of that and been a good musician because there's so much melody to what he does, there's so much just creativity in what he did. And somebody even mentioned, like, why does this guy's so good? Why does he scream? Why does he just you know the all of that but all apologies that riff just grabs you?

Speaker 17(39:27)

I'll take all the blame I'll see for shame Sunburn freeze a burn choking on the ashes of a random face, and I just absolutely love it.

Speaker 3(40:20)

Um he was there with the final single before he before Courtney had him I mean, before he committed I mean, okay, the jury's still out on all that. Before he left us, um he was apparently listening to the Beatles Norwegian Wood um on repeat when he wrote that. Wow. Uh which is kind of interesting. I can't imagine trying to write a piece of music while listening to a different piece of music, but I know, right? Apparently apparently he did. Um one of the other interesting things about that is it was a double A-sided single uh with the song Rape Me. And the B side, which I was debating on whether I'd bring up, but after the STP conversation and the Vaseline conversation, the B side of that single was called Moist Vagina.

Speaker 8(41:13)

Warning, warning, danger, danger. Yeah.

Speaker 3(41:17)

So I guess it's all come full circle, man.

Speaker 13(41:21)

Right, unreal.

Speaker 3(41:23)

Yeah. I don't know. Like I said, I just I I I there's there's talent in there, but I just can't always get my head into like I'm gonna put on music to feel bad. I already feel bad.

Speaker 1(41:36)

Right, I'm not sure. Exactly. I don't need assistance. But you're right when you say some melodic stuff there that was very hooky without question. And I it would be nice to see what would have happened, you know, with so many people out there that we lost. Unbelievable. Nice one. All right, brother Mark, we are to number four.

Speaker 2(42:05)

Okay, this is one of those songs that I play at the Fit Lab in Milford, New Hampshire. It's a band that I never thought of listening to. Once again, it's Megadeth. The song is Angry Again. From the last action hero soundtrack in 1993. They did redo it in '95 on a on an album. But I heard this at the gym, and I'm like, that is one of the best riffs I've ever fucking heard. Yes. I absolutely love that song. And I spoiler alert, I learned how to play it. It's really not that hard, but wow. And I know a lot of people don't like his voice, but I I don't know, there's something about it. I think he's an incredible songwriter.

Speaker 1(43:13)

Yeah. Oh man, but that's it. Even if he does sound like he's always taking a shit.

Speaker 4(43:19)

I know that you said, Jesus, but it won't come out. Maybe you should try using Manners. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Um please come out of my butt.

Speaker 18(43:37)

Please.

Speaker 13(43:46)

Manners.

Speaker 2(43:48)

But no, this this their stuff. I mean, I'm I'm not gonna um mention any other is other of their songs, but uh yeah, that riff just hooked me immediately. Nice angry again.

Speaker 5(44:16)

What an awesome song. Yeah, just yeah.

Speaker 2(44:20)

And that was what year to come? Oh that was a little earlier, but yeah, I was pretty angry back in those days, so that would have fit, but I mean that that doesn't really count because I got into the song within the last year, but it's in the same Eight time. Yes.

Speaker 1(44:39)

So it's on my album. Nice. All right, brother. Great pick. And number four to me. So you guys can pick on me as much as you want about this. Audience, you can pick on me as much as you want about this, but I don't care. Because I love this. And this is a song called I Stand Alone by the band Jackal.

Speaker 11(45:05)

Stand alone today. Don't ask me why I feel I just no, I feel this way. I feel like don't I feel this way?

Speaker 1(45:40)

From their debut album, I could have probably picked four songs off this album because I think it's friggin' incredible. Uh Jesse James Dupree definitely has a bit of you know a Mark Slaughter annoying type voice, but holy shit, this song is so fun, and this whole album is a lot of fun if everyone has heard it.

Speaker 7(46:05)

But anytime I hear it come on like XM, I'm like, that's cool. And I see and it's Jackal. You know, I was like, Oh yeah, it's incredible. Chainsaw on that one.

Speaker 1(46:15)

No, that's uh Lumberjack.

Speaker 3(46:16)

Oh, just a one? Lumberjack.

Speaker 1(46:18)

I thought it was kind of and I almost because I know no one's gonna have it, I almost went with Dirty Little Mind. But I didn't. I went with I Stand Alone, I stand alone today. It's just fucking fun, like catchy. It's so hooky. I mean, uh I'm gonna do a mark here, brother, but does anyone else know this song? Like it's no Jackson.

Speaker 2(46:46)

I've heard of the band.

Speaker 1(46:47)

Oh my god. When when we finish the show today, it's one song I like.

Speaker 19(46:55)

Yes, is that the one? Let the sun shine down on me. Yes, let the heater loves rain. Is that the song you picked?

Speaker 1(47:04)

I don't believe it is, no.

Speaker 2(47:05)

Okay, well, that's the only jackals because that was on one of David's mixtapes that I used to listen to when I worked at the state.

Speaker 1(47:12)

The sun shine down on me, that's incredi. Like they are just a so many hooky songs. They play Sturgis every year, like for the motorcycle rally, but yeah, lumberjack Kevin with the ring.

Speaker 3(47:35)

With the chainsaw is fucking incredible. I thought that there was more in their catalog that featured chainsaws. Maybe that's just every time that I've seen them, like footage of them at Sturgis or something, that they're they're uh they're focused on the chainsaw.

Speaker 1(47:54)

Yeah, he's got the saw out there, yeah.

Speaker 2(47:56)

Oh god, that was Jackal?

Speaker 1(47:58)

Oh, yeah. Incredible. Anyway, I stand alone 1992 Jackal debut. Fucking incredible. All right, Dongo, number four to you.

Speaker 7(48:11)

All right, so I had this is one of my you know depressing grunge type of songs, but I love the song. I love the song, and it's Pearl Jams, don't call me. Hello.

Speaker 15(48:27)

Let's last breakfast table and other last MT. Don't call me don't be too cool song.

Speaker 7(49:11)

I like it. I like the guitar. I like the lyrics. It you know, he he uh he was interviewed later and it was about you know, it's about uh a girl that's got learning disabilities and and and uh you know how the brain is can be fucked up. And uh, you know, he had a quote said, you know, good creative people are just destroyed in in the educational system because they're you know they're not they don't teach them right. No, the brain learns differently for some people, and and it doesn't mean they're a bad person, but oftentimes they end up becoming abused and in uh and uh you know drugs and just because they're trying to self-medicate kind of thing. So yeah, that's my depressing yeah.

Speaker 3(49:54)

Don't fit that Pink Floyd meat grinder while the students are falling in and coming out to whatever homogeneous pile of dumb that they want you to be. That was um standard oil. So I don't I don't want an educated population, right? I want people just smart enough to show up to work, right?

Speaker 7(50:12)

Yeah, yeah, pretty much teach you how to work in a factory, you know, punch in, punch out.

Speaker 3(50:16)

Exactly.

Speaker 1(50:17)

Sit and do what you're told. Ironic you brought that up, Kevin, the meat grinder, because for the first time in my life, I purchased a meat hammer today. And for some reason it went to my mind. Too funny, awesome. Nice, all right, Donald. So now we are off to Kevin for number four.

Speaker 3(50:45)

Number four is just what it is. Uh that had to go with Beastie Boys sabotage, MCA's bass line, and that is just so in your face. And you know, I just love the fact that they, I mean, they started as a punk band and then moved into the hip-hop genre. Um, and it's just, I don't know. I just love that song.

Speaker 5(52:02)

It's so awesome.

Speaker 3(52:05)

Off the hook. Uh, it's it's actually so uh Mario Caldado Jr. was the producer, and at this point, they'd they'd made some money because they were gonna quit after license to ill. They just they were done with it. They, you know, all of a sudden had a conscience about all the party boy stuff, and and it wasn't them, and they just went their different ways. Then they got back together and hit with, you know, what was it, Paul's boutique or whatever else, and they just started making money, and so they had rehearsal space and they were just dicking around. And the producer Caldado kept, you know, come on, you guys, you gotta do something, just do so produce something. And so they wrote the whole song about how he was the most evil person in the world, and they weren't getting anywhere because of him. He was sabotaging everything they were trying to do, uh, but it was very it was very much a goof because he was like trying to get them to do work, and the only thing he was sabotaging was them fucking off. But what a what a great, great song.

Speaker 1(53:09)

Awesome, awesome. The beasties, and I don't know if you could put them in any genre. That's a tough one, right? There, man. They're like a rock hip hop, you know, yeah, and more punk, punk, rock, hip-hop, uh, new wave, whatever. Like they're everywhere, but they were freaking fun as hell. Fun as hell, though. Yeah, awesome pick. All right, brother Mark, number five to wrap up side one for you.

Speaker 2(53:39)

I have to pick this one. It's a it's a repeat. It's all apologies by Nirvana. The reason I like it so much is there's a line in it where it goes, From my master's salt.

Speaker 19(53:53)

Everything's my fault.

Speaker 1(53:56)

Are you blaming yourself for something there?

Speaker 2(54:00)

Yeah, well, I guess. I mean, I don't know. It just seems like I don't know.

Speaker 3(54:06)

It feels that way sometimes, doesn't it?

Speaker 2(54:08)

It does feel that way sometimes. And this is when I worked at the state in a unit where uh only I was the lowest labor grade in the unit, and they blame me for everything, so I think we all live in that point of life at times without question.

Speaker 1(54:27)

Yeah. The misery.

Speaker 20(54:29)

So do you have a book that um that comes back to you every once in a while?

Speaker 21(54:34)

Yeah, well I've read Perfume by Petri Suskin about ten times in my life, and uh I can't stop reading it. It's like something that's just stationary in my pocket all the time, it just doesn't leave me, and every time I'm bored, like I'm on an airplane or something, I read it over and over again. Because I'm a hypochondriac and it just affects me. It makes me want to cut my nose off.

Speaker 20(54:55)

What's the book about?

Speaker 21(54:56)

It's about this um perfume apprentice in in um France at the turn of the century, and he um he uh is disgusted basically with all humans and he just can't get away from humans, so he goes on this trek, this uh walk of death where he just he goes into the rural areas where there's you know woods all over the place in the small villages, and and he only travels by night. And um he he just every time he smells human, like a fire from a far-off way, you know, he'll um he'll just get really disgusted and hide, and he just tries to stay away from people. I kinda relate to that.

Speaker 20(55:34)

Do you ever use what you read in any of your songs?

Speaker 21(55:37)

As a matter of fact, I use that very story in Sentless Apprentice. Yeah. So um that's really one of the first times that I've ever used a an actual story, you know, as a s as a book, as an example of a song. Yeah, I've always tried to stay away from that, but now that I'm running out of ideas more and more, I and I tend to do that.

Speaker 2(56:01)

Yeah. But yeah, and I used to hear it also when me and David started working out at Gold's gym in Manchester. I mean, it was it was before he supposedly offed himself. It was a few months before that, and yeah. It uh it it means something to me, that's all.

Speaker 1(56:18)

Yeah, absolutely. And you mean before what did you say earlier, Kevin? You mean when Courtney had him? I mean before he offed himself.

Speaker 3(56:30)

Well, you know, there's there's I mean, and this is what I I love about what we do and just the interest in in all of the connections and things. Her father was I'm trying to I think he was managed the Grateful Dead for a while, um, which ties into you know the the LSD and the uh the acid test, which is connected to the CIA. Oh my god. I mean all these things that she's connected to, and it's just like because I mean, what do you think? How many times have you seen in your life a great band and see them go nowhere? Right, exactly. And then you see these other bands and they take off, and it's like, hmm, I wonder what the deciding factor is. Taylor Swift Right, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, exactly. Taylor Swift. Oh my god.

Speaker 1(57:21)

Yeah, was it luck? Was it who they knew? There's so many factors.

Speaker 4(57:27)

Is she a reptilian creature from out of space?

Speaker 3(57:30)

Very possible, very possible.

Speaker 1(57:35)

Not ruling it out. All right, awesome. Okay, uh, number five to me to wrap up side one. And yes, I've talked about this song many a times before, but when we do half a decade, and there's a song that means so much to me, I can't leave it out. So I'm gonna end it kind of mellow with um song from 1990 from Heart Off Brigade, and it's All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You. This song to me, what are you laughing about, Kevin? Are you gonna make a comment? Because I'm not gonna be able to do it. She was already playing my head. What we are gonna do today is another one of our mixed tape series. Uh, the last one we did was the the headbanging one. Today we are gonna go the exact opposite, and we are gonna go to ballad. So that's number one to me, then, right? Correct. And I it's gonna be the most brief number one ever, but it's Ann Wilson. Discussed before, picked before on today's show, but holy FA did she rock. Mark, you brought up Magic Man, which was definitely about Chuck Manson. It had to have been.

Speaker 2(59:04)

I mean, how else could you have who else can look right through you? I don't know anyone else.

Speaker 1(59:10)

You know, but I mean, I I always go to All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You, which I think is one of her greatest videos. As always, we got another great one for you today. We are gonna do our favorite female singers, some ladies from the eighties and beyond, if you will. My number 10 was a repeat, and I I don't want to do that. And because it wasn't, you know, it's right there. Damn it. But anyway, I guess where I'm going is I want to take hearts, all I want to do is make love to you.

Speaker 13(1:00:17)

Please, please understand it.

Speaker 1(1:00:28)

Uh, I just I don't know. I this song makes me ball my eyes out every time I hear it, watch the video, just something about it. I mean, friggin' her voice is so powerful and just emotional that it moves me. So, I mean, it would kick on MTV constantly, and it's fucking important, and I love it.

Speaker 3(1:00:55)

She does like to squeal when she comes back from from the interlude, and it's just like it's like a fucking arrow through your heart.

Speaker 1(1:01:03)

Please, please understand. Obviously, I can't sing. I'm not trying. All right. Before I move to you, dongo, I just want to say, with this song, kind of a friggin' bitch move, if you think about it. Like this guy has a this guy fucking bangs this chick. She has his kid, and like, don't bother me, basically. She's saying, understand, I'm in love with another guy. Like, this is my kid.

Speaker 11(1:01:33)

I feel bad for the other guy.

Speaker 1(1:01:35)

Why couldn't he come in and be a father figure for God's sakes?

Speaker 11(1:01:38)

Yeah.

Speaker 1(1:01:38)

You know, she could go to a sperm bank. Yeah, she doesn't give a shit. The bitch probably friggin' wanted child support.

Speaker 9(1:01:47)

Well, yeah, she also wanted to get laid by somebody else. She's been making the same guy for how long? And she wants an excuse to get laid with somebody else.

Speaker 3(1:01:58)

Love it first sight. I think the other guy couldn't give her a child, wasn't that the difference? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1(1:02:04)

Which is why you go to IVF and somebody wrong. You go one thing, yeah, turkey baster. Yeah, turkey baster exactly.

Speaker 3(1:02:14)

Turkey baster hitchhiker. Turkey based or hitchhiker.

Speaker 1(1:02:16)

Yeah, but then you either end up with Arnold Schwarzenegger or Danny DeVito, though.

Speaker 7(1:02:24)

Maybe, maybe she had a conversation with the man she loves, and she's like, I'm just gonna go out and one night and just you know, that with maybe they didn't have the money to do IVF or correct, Darnold.

Speaker 1(1:02:37)

Not the point, though.

Speaker 7(1:02:39)

What about the other guy? The poor bastard that got tricked. Yeah, he got tripped. I will say, most most men won't feel abused if they're to having a one-night stand. I would I would think.

Speaker 1(1:02:55)

I wouldn't feel abused either unless I knew she had my fucking kid. Yes, and then it might be a little bothersome. Right. Yeah. All right.

Speaker 3(1:03:05)

They have surrogate mothers who are aware of what's happening. Right. Right. This poor bastard didn't know a fucking thing.

Speaker 1(1:03:11)

I'm just banging this hot chick who picked me up in the fucking pouring rain. All right. Full disclosure. That's all I'm asking for. Uh Donald wrap up side one of your album.

Speaker 7(1:03:23)

Cool. Uh, this one is uh a band that I I loved in the 90s, early 90s. I would play it going back and forth from Keene to Guilford, and it's uh Dream Theater. And they're they're kind of a progressive metal. I love the song Surrounded. It's on the album uh Images and Words. It was in July 1992, and just rocking, you know, very musical, melodic, you know, high, high singing.

Speaker 22(1:03:53)

It's been a long, long time. It's time to walk to think it over.

Speaker 7(1:04:42)

That's another term that I didn't like. Progressive for sure, right? But uh Dream Theater was pretty talented, and uh, I just like that song. So awesome.

Speaker 1(1:04:53)

Yeah, Portnoy, right? That's portnoy. Yeah, very progressive, right? Yeah, portnoying long tunes.

Speaker 7(1:05:01)

Is the drummer, uh John Petatrucci was the guitar player, Kevin James Labree, the vocalist. Uh Kevin Moore did all the uh lyrics, and he was a keyboard player.

Speaker 23(1:05:12)

Awesome. Yeah, nice Dongo. And now a short commercial break.

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Speaker 23(1:06:13)

Pop Rocks, Jack, stretch Armstrong, Jack, the Bionic Man.

Speaker 24(1:06:21)

Jack. You've gone back in time. This is past times at 80 time.

Speaker 1(1:06:34)

All right, Captain. Wrap up side one for your album.

Speaker 3(1:06:38)

So is that guy Portnoy? Is he doing the one bite on the slice of pizza now? Different Portnoy. Oh, you're talking about Dave Portnoy? Yeah. I like Dave Portnoy. Yeah. I don't I God bless him for what he does and whatever, but I find him to be a little bit abrasive. But yeah. Anywho, I am rounding off side one with a band that I literally could have picked any song that they did. It's a band that I still to this day I didn't understand why they weren't bigger then. I don't understand why they're not bigger now. I'm talking about the smithereens. Ah such a great band. I mean, it everything they did, they had they had such a driving rock sound, the vocals were good, the songs were hooky, but not saccharine. They were just they were great. Um, so I'm going with the blues before and after. It's off 11.

Speaker 13(1:07:42)

The blues before and after. I get the blues before and after I'll read the two.

Speaker 18(1:07:50)

The blues before and after after. I get the blues before that, you town that needs to get your buttons, don't want to do I get the time.

Speaker 3(1:08:02)

It was released as a single January 22nd of 1990, so snuck it in there. Squeaky. There again could have been anything off that album.

Speaker 2(1:08:11)

Was it 1990? It was. It was 1990.

Speaker 3(1:08:14)

The album was released at the end of 89, but the single was released in 90. So legal. Uh the blues before and after. Like I said, any song that the smithereens did would have sufficed for me because I love everything they did. Off that same album, there was a song called A Girl Like You that they had a pretty pretty big hit with, and it was written to be in the movie Say Anything. But Cameron Crow wanted him, Denisio, Pat Denisio, the lead singer, wanted him to change the lyrics because it was like too literal an interpretation of the movie, and he refused to do it, so it got cut from the movie. But whatever. Madonna was supposed to sing backups, but she did not show up. Uh Maria Bidal, who did Body Rock, a song that I checked out and have no idea, never heard it before. Don't care if I ever hear it again, but she did a good job on the backing vocals. But if you don't know the smithereens, if you're not familiar with their work, you missed a really great band, and there weren't, in my eyes, a lot of them in that era. And I think I think the smithereenes were. So check them out.

Speaker 5(1:09:24)

Awesome. Great band.

Speaker 3(1:09:25)

So endeth side one.

Speaker 5(1:09:28)

Nice.

Speaker 1(1:09:29)

All right, brother Mark, start side two with your number six.

Speaker 2(1:09:33)

My side two song at number six is a song that I heard a lot at a gym that uh Dongo and I worked out at. It's called Galaxy Gym. And they played Guns N' Roses, Use Your Illusion one and Two constantly. And the one song that always reminded me of this gym was Pretty Tied Up. And this is from Use Your Illusion 2. And the way Axel does his octaves on his own, you know, you have the the high and the low, and and it reminded me that was a special time in my life, even though that that was the only these were years that I pretty much was a miserable motherfucker. But this was the bright spot in my life was going to Galaxy Gym. It was nobody's fault, you guys. I was the one who put myself there. But no, anyway, it just meant a lot to me. But I have to say something about bass player Duff McKagan. Did I say it right? You did. Yeah. He's probably one of my favorite. I mean, he is probably my other than Getty Lee, my favorite bass player of all time.

Speaker 7(1:10:57)

He's awesome. He's a beast. He runs a uh show on on uh Series XM. Yep.

Speaker 2(1:11:04)

He does. With his wife, his wife. Yeah. Really?

Speaker 1(1:11:08)

And he does the joke of the day.

Speaker 2(1:11:11)

Before they go into their riffs, he usually has his own little riff. And uh but do you do you remember hearing that that album a lot, Donnie? When we worked out with the game.

Speaker 7(1:11:21)

I love those days. Galaxy Gym was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2(1:11:23)

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. But free weights.

Speaker 7(1:11:27)

Yep.

Speaker 2(1:11:28)

I mean, it wouldn't work for me today at the age of 62 because, well, you know, I'm 62.

Speaker 7(1:11:34)

You look you looking good, man. You can't see him out there, people, but he's got muscles. I look he's got smooth olive skin. You guys want to be alone?

Speaker 3(1:11:47)

I didn't say anything.

Speaker 2(1:11:51)

But yeah, those are fun times, you know, when he we got into the power lifting, because that's the only thing you can do at Galaxy Gym.

Speaker 5(1:11:58)

Yep.

Speaker 2(1:11:58)

You know? Remember we were drinking Budweisers, doing deadlifts? Yeah, that's where I go. How does it how do you work out now? But yeah, I just really wanted to mention Galaxy Gym and Duff McKagan because you know, hearing his stuff, it's just unbelievable. Yeah. So awesome song.

Speaker 1(1:12:19)

Nice. All right, Groove Hay. Side two to me. Number six, and I am uh going to 1992, and here it is. Gotta tie it to Kiss. It's a song called Unholy Off of Kiss's Revenge. This song to me I've also talked about in the past, but this is the return of Gene Simmons to me back into the KISS fold. Although I don't feel he was missing as much as a lot of the KISS fans do, because I thought he had some incredible shit throughout the 80s. I mean, Creatures was from the 80s. Uh Lick It Up was from the 80s. He had some great shit on Asylum. He had some great stuff on Crazy Nights. Uh Animal Eyes and Hot in the Shade. He kind of was an epic fail. I've talked about the video. I'm not gonna get into it again, but just it changed me and my love for this band again and got me back into the hunger. Even though the tour before this was incredible, I'm like, all right, there's Gene. Him getting out of that makeup for look it up, and he was just doomed. He was an a fish out of water so fucking bad for so many years. But this song, uh co-written by Vinny Vincent, I may add, is just heavy metal, kick ass, riffy, fucking kiss, and I love it. And that's leading off side two of my album to you, Dungo.

Speaker 7(1:14:45)

Awesome. So on my side two, going back to the grunge with Allison Chains off of Facelift 1990. Love this album. Uh, it's put you down, and then you're not gonna be a good one. I believe it's on the second side of that album, but I I'd have to double check on that.

Speaker 4(1:15:26)

But it's the second side of our album.

Speaker 7(1:15:28)

But it it's it's a it's got a riffy bada dam, but then they're gonna bam, but then you know, it's upbeat, it's it's heavy, it's got a great riff. I love that song, and that's what I'm going with. Nice.

Speaker 2(1:15:42)

I mean, they're my uh I think I already said it, but by far, not even close. There is no close second.

Speaker 7(1:15:48)

They were my favorite from the genre.

Speaker 2(1:15:50)

Oh god, not even close. In fact, I they were actually trying to go into hair metal uh before that, and they lucked out that they didn't put anything out because if they did, they probably never would have made it.

Speaker 1(1:16:02)

Well, you never know, right? Yeah, well, no, because they were yeah, hair metal was shut down, hate the term.

Speaker 2(1:16:09)

Instantly, just about instantly, overnight Nirvana Gate is what we like to call it.

Speaker 1(1:16:16)

It's quite odd how that occurred so lately. You guys know I throw him a bone all the time. Eddie Trunk constantly talks about it because he was in radio at the time and living it, he was like, they came through and pulled all those albums, like literally pulled them and threw them out like you can't play this anymore. You can't play less anymore. Well, every radio station in America did mark. That's what I'm saying. They just it ended overnight. It was the most important thing.

Speaker 7(1:16:49)

And most things occur slowly and and you know that did not organically, and and that was quick, and it's almost like it was the time frame or something, yeah. You know, money obviously plays in into it, and but it it is odd how quickly it just the guillotine came down and correct, and like Kevin said earlier, yeah, how quickly or how short it lasted.

Speaker 1(1:17:14)

You know what I mean? Like it was very it was an end and an end to that, you know. And now we go back and those bands, the grunge bands, and our hard rock bands and rock and roll bands are still the ones touring.

Speaker 3(1:17:31)

How many broadcast radio stations have a um a platform that is completely music from 2000 to 2015? Zero.

Speaker 2(1:17:44)

Oh my god.

Speaker 3(1:17:45)

I mean exactly classic rock everywhere you go.

Speaker 2(1:17:49)

Yeah. The late 90s was kind of like grunge light. You had Creed coming in and a lot of these bands. It kind of I mean, you still had a lot of the grunge guy. What'd you say? I just threw up in my mouth a little bit when you said Creed. Oh, Creed. Scott Staff. But no, I'm just I that was just one example, you know, but uh it it it started to change. It like you guys said, grunge was kind of short-lived. It came around, it didn't really take until I would say early 93. And I guess through 96, and it was kind of gone.

Speaker 3(1:18:23)

Yeah.

Speaker 2(1:18:23)

A lot of the you know, Pearl Jam, AIC, STP, Soundgarden, they you know, they persevered for a little bit until the elite singers died. The only one really doing anything now is well, Allison Chains has a new lead singer, and he's actually pretty good.

Speaker 1(1:18:40)

Yeah, a lot of the Allison Chain fans are uh agreeing with that. That that dude is is kicking ass for them.

Speaker 3(1:18:48)

Oh no, he's good. But the thing with a lot of those bands is like we talked about with STP, Allison Chains, and it yeah, they got labeled as grunge, but they could have been they could have been rock. Hard rock. Absolutely hard rock, it could have just been a shift in in rock and not necessarily been agreed.

Speaker 2(1:19:08)

They got labeled, they got labeled as a genre.

Speaker 1(1:19:11)

Yeah, they were definitely bands that fit that, and then bands that got pushed into it.

Speaker 2(1:19:16)

Well, Pearl Jam would fit it, uh Nirvana would fit it for sure.

Speaker 1(1:19:22)

Smashing pumpkins would fit it without a doubt, in my opinion. But so the key is to be whiny, right? Exactly.

Speaker 3(1:19:32)

And whiny sad lyrics.

Speaker 1(1:19:34)

Yes. Awesome. All right, Kev, that's to you.

Speaker 3(1:19:38)

All right, so with all of that, now I'm gonna go back to uh what would be, I guess, the roots of grunge, some of the early stuff. Um, this is Mark Arm and Steve Turner were the original started the band. It was called uh Mr. Epp and the Calculations. Their first gig was playing air guitar on rolled up maps in in Mr. Epp's math class. Um they they later uh turned into uh Mud Honey, which I think is one of one of the great bands from that era that didn't make it like they didn't break like the other ones broke. And I just I thought they were great. Um Stone Gossard and Ament, uh Jeff Ament came through that band before they went into um Pearl Jam. Matt Lucan also came came through that. So there was some of kind of the the roots of of that grunge movement starting with them, and I just always loved the song and and it's off the singles CD because that was the time they weren't album.

Speaker 7(1:20:46)

Yeah, that was a great that's a great CD. There's still songs on that.

Speaker 3(1:20:50)

There really are. Overblown. And and the rest of them. And the song Overblown is like a rebellion against everybody in the world staring at Seattle and grunge.

Speaker 13(1:21:34)

No, yeah.

Speaker 3(1:21:35)

They were like, you know, it's just it's it's all overblown, it's all bullshit. We're just trying to play clubs and have a good time. And so it was it was in the moment, it was a con a commentary on what was happening, and and it's just a great song.

Speaker 5(1:21:52)

Awesome. Yeah, awesome. At first, I thought you were gonna say the mud hens.

Speaker 1(1:21:58)

Say that again. I thought you were gonna say the mud hens at first.

Speaker 3(1:22:02)

Uh no, that would be uh um what was his name on MASH? The Toledo Mud Hens. That was a baseball team, wasn't it? Yeah, baseball team. Yeah, but didn't didn't um oh god, with the big nose on MASH.

Speaker 5(1:22:15)

Uh was it clinger?

Speaker 3(1:22:17)

Klinger was always talking about the the Toledo Mud Hens.

Speaker 5(1:22:21)

He's Lebanese and the big nose.

Speaker 1(1:22:25)

Uh too funny. Awesome, Kev. All right, brother Mark, I believe we are number seven to you.

Speaker 2(1:22:34)

So yeah, this is another repeat, because I this is my tape, uh, Stone Temple Pilots, and it's Vaseline from Purple 1994. Just a little anecdote. Um, I remember going to the industry back in I don't know, maybe it was 95, and I was in a a little bit of a slump with a woman, you know, and uh there was this quite hot blonde who was married, unfortunately. And they were they were all state workers that I that I think they said they were gonna be there, and she told me that she wished that she was married to me, not her husband. I'm like, oh god. But anyway, yeah, I thought of that, but yeah, I was like, oh wow, she really was into me, and you know, obviously nothing capping because I'm a man of principle, incredible integrity, as we know. And uh, but but yeah, it just the one banging the married chick. I didn't pay anybody, it just was a boost to my confidence.

Speaker 7(1:23:38)

So what happened used the Vaseline?

Speaker 2(1:23:44)

No, no, not that night. I don't I don't remember, but anyway, um I don't even remember her name, but it um It wasn't Shirley Temple, was it? No, no, she was me, but and she was probably taller than me. But the thing is, is STP came on with Vaseline. I'm like, who is that stone temple fireworks? And this is right in the smack middle of the grunge era, and and that to this day is I think my favorite STP song, although I do like sex type thing, and Kevin just a little advice to that girl, that woman, she shouldn't have not worn that dress. So anyway, so that's my number seven. Awesome.

Speaker 3(1:24:29)

He was quite clear on that. Yeah, he should have worn the dress.

Speaker 2(1:24:33)

I didn't realize he was talking in like the fourth person or like as somebody else. I thought he was just I don't know.

Speaker 1(1:24:39)

All right, so that's number seven to me, and I love that in the mixtape series we have different rules from the decade series, and that's because I'll be the third person taking a song from a movie soundtrack today. Okay, and this reached number one on the Billboard charts, the top hundred. It's from 1990, and it's from the Young Guns 2 soundtrack. And I don't give a rat's ass if anyone out there likes it. I'm a big cowboy guy. This is Blaze of Glory by uh John Bon Jovi. This takes me back to the beer restaurant. I this song played about 17 times a day on the radio while I'm flipping burgers or slinging clams and fries. But it's it's a great fucking song. I've always called it uh Dead or Alive 2, really. But it's yes, just a good analogy. Yeah, good. Young Guns 2 was not nearly as good as the first movie, but it was a hell of a hell of a song off that soundtrack. Took you back into the the life of Billy the Kid, which I've always been incredibly intrigued by and fascinated. Still want to know what happened to him. Pat Garrett really let him go, shot him in the back. Did he actually live on? Who knows? But what a great song, you know. The earth was last night's bed. There's so many great lines in that fucking song, and that's that. All right, Dongo, that's number seven to you.

Speaker 7(1:27:11)

Okay, so I'm gonna go with another kind of left field pick. This is a uh band that I love from the early 90s. Um, is this King's X? I love King's X.

Speaker 2(1:27:23)

Oh, yes. I knew you got that to me.

Speaker 7(1:27:25)

It's one of my most you know favorite bands. They're underrated, I think. They're they kind of get put into the progressive rock, but they they it's really hard to put them in a category because they they are a very unique band. And the song I love from them, I love a lot of them, but the one that fit in the time frame is lost in Germany. It's off their fourth album, which is King Z King Z, so it's a self-titled album at the fourth album, which is weird when bands Do that. Usually it's their first album that they do the self-titled, but uh King's and I don't think any of you guys are doing Kings X. So their first album that I love is uh Gretchen Goes to Nebraska, which is an amazing album. But so off of this album, Lost in Germany, it's just a cool song, it's got great riffs, harmonies, it's kind of like Beatles meets, you know, Pearl Jam meets, you know, Van Halen. It's like a weird, you can't put put a finger on it. But I love these guys, and I hope you guys like the song Lost in Germany.

Speaker 1(1:29:07)

Nice, nice. There's something I really like about that girl. I just can't put my finger on it. I go in edge. But Dongo, surprisingly, every time I saw King's X album, I clicked on it because Brother David loved it. And I remember loving a lot of their tunes. Yeah. They had a couple awesome videos on MTV. They were a fucking incredible band of musicians. They've trio, were they a trio? It's a trio. It's a trio. Yeah.

Speaker 7(1:29:40)

Yeah.

Speaker 1(1:29:41)

They were awesome. Ice pick. All right, Kev, number seven to you.

Speaker 3(1:29:47)

Excellent. Great band. This is another one where I I could take any song off this album. This is one that that I had and listened to quite frequently, but I'm going with bad luck from social distortion.

Speaker 25(1:30:04)

It's my lucky number. Do you want me to stay inside? Black and they are.

Speaker 3(1:30:43)

I mean, they list him as punk rock or cowpunk or honky tonk. I never really I I would call them punk, but I I'd more rockabilly.

Speaker 7(1:30:53)

Rockabilly, yeah.

Speaker 3(1:30:54)

Yeah, I think rockabilly fits, you know. Mike Ness just had that that's you can see him, you know how Billy Idol had the sneer? Yeah. You you could hear that in Mike Ness's voice. You could hear that sneer. You can sound like fucking Dr. Seuss. You can hear that sneer.

Speaker 1(1:31:14)

I do not want green eggs and ham.

Speaker 3(1:31:17)

I do not want them, Sam. I am. Um, but that whole album I can listen to forward and back, no skips. Uh just just a great album. But that was kind of the biggest cut-off that they'd had some traction with before that with Story of My Life, which went into a couple of I think it was in a few movies and and some television shows. Um, they got some play out of that, and that's what kind of got them there. But that is a band that is still out there. I think they're coming to Hampton Beach or something like that um soon. I don't know if I'll have the time to, but I would certainly if I could go see them, they are just straightforward rock and roll, good time music. Awesome. You still got the peeps to connect with. No, I just I don't know if I'm gonna have the time, that's all.

Speaker 5(1:32:04)

Yeah, right on. Do any of us? It's right.

Speaker 1(1:32:09)

Awesome pick. Alright. So number eight to you, brother Mark.

Speaker 2(1:32:15)

Alright, AJ. Um, this is Unholy from Kiss. Yes, sir. Um, obviously, I had to pick it. It's my favorite song on the album, although I oh I probably shouldn't mention any others.

Speaker 1(1:32:26)

It's okay, I got nothing.

Speaker 2(1:32:28)

Alright, well, you know, there's a couple others. I think this album's a little overrated, but it was still a great looking album. And you're right, AJ, Gene did come into his uh he came into his look at that point, and I I didn't think his look was that bad until he got to uh Asylum? I don't know. Yeah, Asylum after that it When he looked like Maud. Yeah, that Maud. Oh my god, he looked more like a woman if you look at some of those damn things. But I mean I think his work in the 80s was I mean, obviously, his work on creatures and lick it up were incredible. Absolutely, between him and Vinny Vincent and hey, uh Brian Adams and uh but yeah, this song was finally okay, they're back. They got they went into the rock pop genre and uh they were back, yeah. So I picked that. Nice.

Speaker 1(1:33:22)

I knew you'd have it for certain indeed. How could we not? Exactly. Alright. Alright, so number eight to me, and this is 1991, and Kevin, I know you don't believe this album exists, but I have to talk about it for a certain reason, and this is off the self-titled Metallica album, the Black Album, 1991, has said. But this is not a song you're probably thinking of, and it's called Of Wolf and Man, I bought from Holly Price. Holly, if you listen ever, which you say you do, I bought a Honda Civic off of her for three hundred dollars. And it needed a clutch. Everything else was great in it. I had to replace the clutch. I think it I had like 700 into it when done. The stereo I put in it was probably three grand, and it was just worth way more than the car, and it was since the citation, Dongo and Mark, the best car stereo I've ever heard in my life. Wow. And this song would kick in on C D, you know, it's got the uh I don't know if it's it's I think a Tom and the Riff at the same time. Just and the power would just be shaking the mirror the mirror, the windshield out from the new days, mist. I've come. Whatever. I can't even remember the words right now, but fucking incredible, incredible song. Uh I like the black album. I definitely don't like it as much as uh Ride or Master, but I I I see where everyone saw it as a sellout, but there were still some fucking great tunes on that. After that, I feel load and reload. I thought that stuff sucked. They're coming back into it now. They got some good heavy stuff, but but of Wolf and Man, go listen to that song, and it is fun as hell. And boy, did it sound good in a fucking $300 Honda Civic. Oh man, it was awesome. That and the next one, uh, oh shit. I'm not gonna name songs. All right, off to you, Dungo.

Speaker 7(1:36:56)

Cool. All right, so this is a band. I kind of see them as not a one-hit wonder, but kind of maybe like a one-album wonder. But when it comes to early 90s, this was a band that I played a lot and I enjoyed. And it's Candlebox. Yes, far behind the song Fire Behind.

Speaker 25(1:37:19)

Hey, but you left me far behind.

Speaker 7(1:37:47)

It was a rocking tune. They fall in the grunge category. Uh, but I think they're more rock. I would definitely put them in rock. I they did some other albums after that, but it really was that Candlebox self-titled album, Candle Box, uh, Far Behind is a song that I, you know, I thought was pretty rocking.

Speaker 1(1:38:05)

Oh yeah, they were a great band. I love that song. Very underrated. I thought they should have done way more.

Speaker 3(1:38:13)

Yeah, I don't know what happened to them if they they fizzled out because of the breakup, or or just or or maybe, and I'm just I'm just one guy talking here, just throwing out stuff. Maybe the name Candle Box is the dumbest fucking name ever for the band. I don't know what is a candle box. What is it? And and even if it is a thing, it's a dumb name for a band.

Speaker 7(1:38:37)

It is a dumb name for a couple of things. Kevin, I would have to open up a rush in '94.

Speaker 2(1:38:42)

That's a dumb name. That name is player from Creative Force. They walked in and they were playing their uh headliner. I yeah, their last song, you know.

Speaker 19(1:38:58)

Whatever. I don't know quite a bit.

Speaker 3(1:38:59)

Yeah, that one didn't really work as well for me, but far behind was great. Yeah. You know, they'd probably still be around if they called the band Panther Testicles or something like that, but candle box just didn't exactly sound like sounds like something that would be in the uh the apartment of some hippie chick that stunk a patchouli. Exactly. My candle box where I keep all of my my save the planet, all my earth day tickets. Oh dear sorry guys, great band. I loved ya. You're called about the name a little further.

Speaker 1(1:39:38)

Yeah. Lame name. All right, Kevin, to you.

Speaker 3(1:39:43)

All right now, since I just made fun of Candlebox, I'm gonna talk about another band that was literally a one-hit wonder and had an amazing name, and that would be Screaming Trees. Ah, yeah. Nearly lost you off the again off the single soundtrack.

Speaker 22(1:40:00)

Dragon bar enough to know.

Speaker 3(1:40:37)

As the singles, but amazing. Just I mean it's one of those ones that the song is so good. It's like, how did they disappear after that? How could they not follow that up? They just totally went Norman Greenbaum on that and just disappeared. Um, but just the guy is playing some really wild shit on the guitar with a with a pedal and and with a wawa, and it's just like madness. It's it's amazing. And I always we always used to goof at the at the uh at the video for it because the the guitarist was kind of a maybe a huskier kind of kid. And as the as the tune starts rocking there outside, and he's like laying on the ground, rolling around in the dirt, playing guitar, and it's just like um okay. What's what's happening there? I suppose it was illustrating that he was getting into his guitar work, but it looked a little bit a little bit goofy, but uh just a great song, and then they were gone.

Speaker 1(1:41:36)

Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 3(1:41:38)

Get that fat kid off the ground.

Speaker 1(1:41:41)

Everything failed at that point.

Speaker 7(1:41:43)

If you look at, you know, maybe when the internet, like the internet's coming into play, that dial-ups coming, maybe that directs people's attention away from things, you know, redirects.

Speaker 3(1:41:55)

Absolutely. But I also think that it's pretty, you know, we talk about Nirvana Gate, and I think that it was part of the plan was okay, we have to sign a multi-record deal with Van Halen and pay for all the hotel rooms that they bust up and this and that and the other, you know, whatever. They were sick of it after the first so because most bands, if they have one or two albums, by the time they're done touring, they're still in debt.

Speaker 1(1:42:24)

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3(1:42:26)

So for the record companies, they can control what's happening, have a tighter control on it, get two albums out of them, and not worry about it, and not have to worry about paying them royalties, just like the thing with rap. I mean, it's beautiful for the record companies with rap because you have a guy, he does all this stuff in the studio, puts out two albums, you make him big, and then he overdoses or gets shot by one of his friends coming out of a convenience store or whatever else. They pay off the baby mamas, and they make a big thing. They make all the money, yeah, and they and they release 40 albums posthumously. And who's making that money now? The record company. Not anybody in the family, not anybody, not the artist. It's just it's kind of I don't know. I think I think you know, we've talked about the industry clamping down, and I think the the mid-90s is where they put their final like we're gonna do exactly what we want to do, and we're gonna do it to benefit price exactly. Yep. I believe you're gonna listen to what we tell you to listen to.

Speaker 4(1:43:25)

Yeah, right, right. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1(1:43:31)

As we always say on this show, I believe they call it the music business. Unbelievable. All right, we are to number nine to you, Mark. Number nine. Number nine.

Speaker 2(1:43:51)

Okay, well, this is a song by a band that was kind of techno. Uh a lot of synth. A lot of synth. Nine inch nails. Yes, I got the song. It's it's called Gave Up from the Broken EP in 1992. And would you like to know why I got into this song? This song is is very heavy, very rocking, and the video is what got me into this song.

Speaker 10(1:44:18)

Perfect Little Dream. The kind that hurts the most.

Speaker 2(1:45:12)

Oh no. It was he Trent Reznor, before they finally tore the house down and built another house on the property, lived there, and you had all these guys, you know, playing the synth, and you had Mary.

Speaker 1(1:45:26)

Explain the property, brother.

Speaker 2(1:45:29)

That's where the Charles Manson family murdered Sharon Tate. Yes.

Speaker 5(1:45:34)

Okay.

Speaker 2(1:45:35)

And uh and Sharon Tate and Steve Parent, Vychek Forkowski, Jay Sebring. Jay Sebring and Abigail Folger.

Speaker 1(1:45:48)

All right, so that's number nine to me. I'm going with 1991 from Slee to the Grind. And it's monkey business.

Speaker 19(1:46:22)

Oh, that was nine.

Speaker 1(1:46:25)

Um, I this song, uh, I mean, first the debut album came out, and it's almost a perfect album to me. I love Sebastian Bach. I love Skid Bro. Uh, his voice to me is one of the best rock and roll voices to ever be produced. Fucking incredible. Yeah, you know what? I mean, how many fucking years have to go by before I'm I mean, we have friends that are still assholes after 30 years, so maybe he's still an asshole, but why they still have friends? Right, but maybe you get my print.

Speaker 3(1:47:02)

Just come on, bring this guy back, and they would they could make a fortune if they did, but from what I've read, I can I can understand why they're a little bit maybe um apprehensive about doing that. It still goes on. I just saw recently, it seems like every time I see video of him now, it's they're they're doing 18 in life, and he waits like he makes the guitarist do that intro for like 20 minutes while he's walking around doing stuff and whatever. I've seen it like two or three different locations where it's happening, and he's like, I don't know, there's something and nothing against his greatness. I mean, he's an amazing, amazing lead singer, lead lead person. He's a wild vocalist. I call him a vocalist too. Yeah, he's yeah, he's up there.

Speaker 1(1:47:54)

Um not like he was, he was up there in the day.

Speaker 3(1:47:58)

He was fucked up, but difficult, a difficult individual, a difficult human being, precisely. But I would think the payday would be enough to be like, you know what, suck it up.

Speaker 1(1:48:08)

Yeah, even if we canceled a tour after a few weeks, well, then they'd get really fucked. But but yes, but what a great song, just that intro. It takes me to the 90s without question. I I still I think his voice was just the perfect rock and roll voice. Maybe Paul Stanley ahead of him, but there's vocalists and there's frontmen, and then there's both.

Speaker 2(1:48:36)

And I feel like Bach was both so AJ, before we move on to Donnie, um, can you talk a little bit about Monkey Business with Flesh Tuxedo and how that all unfolded all the time? They would play it, and I we I mean, if you were with me, we'd be bouncing up and down, and here would come Rob, aka Seinfeld, and doing his little Clyde thing from uh any which way but loose.

Speaker 9(1:49:04)

Yeah, it's just it was the same thing every time.

Speaker 1(1:49:07)

I don't remember that. I must not have been there, but but he was funny and he looks a lot like Seinfeld.

Speaker 2(1:49:14)

Yes, he was he was far more shallow than Seinfeld.

Speaker 3(1:49:19)

Jerry Yeah, you know, the the cool thing about, and I think we've mentioned it before, the cool thing about that Slave to the Grind album is if you look at the arc of the bands that got there before them, you know. I mean, for whatever reason we've talked about some of them, they got there a little late to the to the party as everybody was leaving. But these other bands got more and more pop trying to desperately to hold on to fame and fortune and and and whatever the record company was telling them to do that.

Speaker 1(1:49:51)

And I know where you're going here, Kevin.

Speaker 3(1:49:52)

And they just went, fuck you, we're gonna do speed metal instead, and it was beautiful. It was just like we're getting we're gonna get harder.

Speaker 1(1:49:59)

And then they did it even more so on the next album. Like they didn't sell out, and that's I that's where I was kind of going before we got into discussion, but I don't know. I the voice is incredible to me, but the fact that they did that exact thing when when they everything was turning like you said, and they said, fuck it, we we're gonna hold our own. And being such a massive KISS fan, to see a band do that, it's like you gotta respect it. Because Kiss just tried to follow suit of everything that was happening. But Skid Row is like, no, we're gonna stick to our guns. No pun intended, because isn't that a song? But anyway, big guns. Yeah, big guns. Thank you. So yeah, so monkey business is my number nine. Number nine. And I'll go 90, you dungo.

Speaker 7(1:50:57)

All right. So I'm gonna dip into a little bit of Kev's genre with the punk stuff. Uh, this is a punk band that kind of dipped into the grunge. The songwriter, Brett Gerwitz, said that Nirvana has proven that as long as the tempo doesn't freak anybody out, you can get on the radio with loud guitars. So the band is bad religion, and the song is infected. It's just a classic song from the from the 19 early 1990s. The song is about a dark, unhealthy romance where one partner is afflicted and the other is addicted. And it's infected. Yeah. Yeah. That's what uh that's what Brett Gurowitz, the guitar player and the writer of the song, said the song is about a dark, unhealthy romance where one partner is afflicted and the other is addicted. Nice. Awesome. Nice cool song. Swag. Awesome. 1994, off the album Stranger Than Fiction.

Speaker 2(1:52:21)

Nice. Great pick. Truth is definitely Stranger Than Fiction, but we won't go down that rabbit hole. Yeah.

Speaker 3(1:52:29)

All right. Kevin, number nine to you. All right. Now, this is a band that I I enjoyed a lot of what they did, and it was different, and it went different places. I never felt the awe that a lot of people felt. I think they became like really popular amongst people that were kind of pretentious. I really enjoyed a lot of what Radiohead did, but I never, like I just said, I never really went, oh my god. I didn't I didn't want to go, you know, praise at Johnny Greenwood's feet. You know, they they came out with the the the big one that everybody knows off Pablo Honey. Um this one honey? Yes. This one's this one is off uh an Australian EP, but I do believe it's on I do believe it's on Pablo Honey as well, but I had an Australian EP that I don't think you can find anymore, um, that had just some great different versions of their songs. And this one's called Anyone Can Play Guitar. And it's a great song, and it speaks to a lot of what we speak about on this show, is that he's saying, you know, if it we'll get to a point where anyone can play guitar and it won't mean anything anymore. Oh, which I think is something that was happening in the 90s. I've never been able to put my finger on what happened with the sound of music in the 90s. I can put my finger on it. Um it and I think it's part of like that guy that I posted the the video, Marvin, that was talking about you know, bagging groceries and how everything just one click at a time got closer to, and I think at one point the production value got to a point where there wasn't anything special about the music. You know, you listen to the earlier Metallica albums, and the recordings are horrible. I mean, it's but that was the that was the love of it. That was you know, it had that tinny sound, it had it had Newstead's bass turned off. It you know, there was all those things happening. I think the solid state amp, and I think there was a little bit of I'm gonna put it on Eddie Van Halen too, because all those kids grew up and they like, I want to sound like him. Yeah, and they did. And so now when you go back and listen to so much, with a few exceptions, you listen to so much of the music that was popular in the 90s, and it's like, could you tell one guitarist from the next? They all kind of like melding together for me, and that's why I have a hard time with a lot of that music. Um, but it also the stuff that stands out is special, and I think there was a lot of really cool stuff that Greenwood did, but I just didn't find him to be a god like other people seem to think he was.

Speaker 1(1:55:49)

Precisely. Right on. Well, with that being said, off to you, brother Mark, to wrap up your album at number 10.

Speaker 2(1:56:01)

Okay, this is well, before I get to that, I just want to say, Kevin, at least they're actually playing the guitar. I'm telling you, in the next 20 to 30 years. Well, maybe. What do you mean?

Speaker 1(1:56:13)

How about the this year, Mark? Right. Yeah, like tomorrow. This year they're not fucking playing them. Yeah.

Speaker 2(1:56:19)

That's my point. Yeah. I know, but maybe all music will be them not playing and just okay, let me show you how to write a song without ever picking up an instrument.

Speaker 7(1:56:29)

There's so many popular songs on TikTok that are AI songs, they're earworm songs that are just created in seconds.

Speaker 1(1:56:36)

You're right, Dongo, but they're banging them out. There's two categories now. They're making them say it's AI generated or AI assisted. So the people aren't getting the fucking credit that they could when like that first dude made like three million off a song that he wrote in eight seconds. Right.

Speaker 3(1:56:59)

But the the end result is going to be just one brown noise hum. Because the AI is an echo chamber, it's going it listens to everything that's out there, and then it makes so at some point there'll be more AI stuff than there's real music, and so it'll just become just a note. Hey, did you hear the new song? Yeah, check it out. Yeah, that's what it's gonna end up as.

Speaker 2(1:57:24)

Just static. So number 10 is Alice and Chains Down in a Hole, and it's from the record called Dirt from 1992. This song, I mean, Harmony's galore, first of all, which is very normal for them. Down in a hole, I mean, that I've been guilty of kicking myself in the teeth. Well, you know, that's that's been me. I mean, I've been my own worst enemy. But watch the video. They're in this little desert freaking trailer. I mean, not even a trailer park, there's a trailer like 30 miles out into the desert. Kids running around with mullets. Watch the video, and then explain Staley. This is when he was relatively healthy. He comes out and he obviously was a massive fan of Freddie Krueger, but I adore this song. Absolutely adore it. This would be on my deserted island list. Nice.

Speaker 5(1:59:02)

Awesome. Very cool.

Speaker 1(1:59:03)

Good song. Were you calling me trailer trash in there?

Speaker 9(1:59:09)

AJ, the guy, the guy had a trailer, probably 20 miles from the lake.

Speaker 2(1:59:14)

I don't know what's going on. I didn't say you live in a mobile home park. That's different.

Speaker 1(1:59:19)

I know, I know. I'm just busting.

Speaker 2(1:59:21)

I don't see Ricky or Bubbles out there.

Speaker 3(1:59:24)

It makes it makes sense, though, that down in a hole would be on the album dirt. Yes.

Speaker 1(1:59:32)

It does.

Speaker 2(1:59:33)

And I I always kind of thought that this song pertained to me because I moved from Manchester, the I want to say the big city, but big enough. And I'm living basically down in a hole because we live down a long driveway going down. Val used to say, oh, let's go down in the hole where we live. Yeah. So nice. Yeah. I'm down in a hole. All right. Losing control.

Speaker 19(2:00:06)

So I'm number 10 to me.

Speaker 1(2:00:11)

Oh boy, brother. We're editing it out.

Speaker 23(2:00:14)

Delete it.

Speaker 1(2:00:15)

Yes, thank you. Jesus. Dory started it. I know, but that was an ear sore. You know they make an earworm.

Speaker 24(2:00:25)

First time it's so we go.

Speaker 18(2:00:34)

Meeting was enchanted. They don't want to do the toys.

Speaker 1(2:00:48)

Okay.

Speaker 6(2:00:49)

So I uh I I I gotta stay in my little tiny little range.

Speaker 2(2:00:56)

I get it.

Speaker 1(2:00:56)

I am struggling here with my number 10 to wrap my album up because Ming. Anyway, I said I would bookend this with some grunge. This song back in the day to me, it was one that stuck out to me. And it's probably another, you know, one it's like a rock and roll all night or you know, Detroit Rock City and a KISS fan base, but I'm sure it's one of their big songs, but it's something that spoke to me when I was a kid, and well, not a kid in the 90s. I was a man, but I loved this fucking riff, and it's outshined by SoundGuard. That's the other one I Off of Bad Motorfinger, Cornell's voice is just undeniable. Um, it's not even one of his greatest vocals, but at all. But this riff just starts out and it's so kick-ass to me. Like I've said, I was never a big grunge guy. I I I couldn't say that so much now because I go back and listen to some of this stuff and I realize what I missed out on. Like there's some really, really incredible stuff. But this is one of the ones that I actually listened to back then. It's an incredible song, and I'll leave it at that. Excellent. Everyone, come on, let's go.

Speaker 2(2:03:09)

That was my I would say that's here today. I got that would be my okay, that would be my second favorite Soundgarden song for sure.

Speaker 19(2:03:19)

Oh shine. Oh, shine.

Speaker 7(2:03:21)

Don't go off to you. Well, that segues nicely into my pick because my number 10 pick, I wanted to conclude my mixtape. I didn't think it would make it this long. And it's a Chris Cornell song, but it's when he was with Temple of the Dog. Oh, I can say say hello to heaven.

Speaker 6(2:03:42)

Ah, say hello to heaven. Heaven heaven.

Speaker 7(2:04:29)

Uh you know, obviously got Eddie Vetter, it's got a lot of the guys from Pearl Jam, Jeff Ament, uh Stone Gossard, Pearl Jam. Uh, you know, a lot of guys. Nice. The super groups. Yeah. You know?

Speaker 1(2:04:43)

That was definitely a grunge super group. Yeah. Grunge supergroup. Yeah. You know, fucking uh, no, I don't want to ruin anyone's pick, but hungry. Yeah, that one, brother. Okay. I was just about to say how god-awful, and this is wrong of me because um, well, does anyone have a Pearl Jam pick coming up?

Speaker 2(2:05:13)

I don't.

Speaker 1(2:05:14)

Well, I mean, I well, I fucking almost had Jeremy, but then I realized how bad Eddie Vetter's voice crunched my ears and made me miserably depressed. And then you just did that movement.

Speaker 2(2:05:36)

They did a version of Ted Nugent's Stranglehold, and all Eddie did is stand, and this is like within the last couple years. Never owned a gun, never owned a gun.

Speaker 4(2:05:47)

Well, guess what, boys? If we want to go get some stuff, we'll go to Eddie Venner's house. You know, because he's not gonna have anything to protect himself from.

Speaker 1(2:05:57)

Anywho.

Speaker 3(2:05:58)

No, he's the type that has security to do that for you. Exactly. He doesn't have to own a gun. You don't have to own a gun if you can hire somebody to follow you around that has guns.

Speaker 1(2:06:09)

Right, but somebody won't gun. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2(2:06:14)

And no, he he's a self-claimed male feminist.

Speaker 1(2:06:18)

No, a cunt warning, warning, danger, danger.

Speaker 3(2:06:22)

I'm saying I didn't hate the early Pearl Jam. And I think we've talked about this before. Singing other people's songs. I mean, he is talk about a front man or a vocalist as opposed to a singer. I mean, he had he had a stylistic approach to saying words into a microphone. I saw him try to sing somebody else's song, and it was like, just stop. It sounded like you're having a stroke or something, dude. Just just don't do it.

Speaker 5(2:06:54)

Knock it off. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3(2:06:56)

Uh, but Temple of the Dog was that was um, and I I just cut Mother Lovebone like at the end, but that's what it was. Andrew Wood um was the lead singer. Mother Lovebone died, and that's when they came together to make that album, I think, to benefit his his family survivors. All right. That's to you, Kev, wrapping it up. Bringing it to a close. So this would be again. I think I've been pretty clear that the 90s was not my favorite era in music. It sticks out because everything after it got progressively worse. Oh, yeah. But there was there was some fun stuff and some promising stuff at that time, and and I believe that the most promising um was Bradley Knoll and Sublime. Yeah, yeah. I thought they would just I you we just talked earlier about what would have happened if he had survived that guy. The fact that there the the 40 ounces to freedom album, he mixed it on a four-track in his living room. It was and it was everything. It was ska, punk, thrash. It was it was all combined, it was so cool, and he made, and it's one of those albums that you listen to it start to finish because every song leads into the next song, whether it's through you know, uh snippets, vocal snippets from movies or whatever. It just it just flows so well, and it's just it's so varied in in the approach. So I had to pick one off it, and it's funny because uh Donnie had just talked about bad religion, and the one I picked off that is uh uh a bad religion cover called We're Only Gonna Die From Our Own Arrogance. Nice, and that's where they went, they went, they literally went from like a scathing right into just in your face thrash metal, and it was just unbelievable. So good. And I just I think we really lost out on on him ODing.

Speaker 2(2:09:51)

Yeah, because he's lost a lot of so much talent.

Speaker 7(2:09:55)

There was some a lot of the performers during this cast died from overdoses. Yeah. Heroin, yeah, mostly heroin for sure.

Speaker 1(2:10:04)

Yeah, but yeah, uh talk going back to what you were saying, Sublime, like that was a feeling. Like those songs, 40 ounce of freedom, like going into that was just a feeling. Like when you heard that, I can't explain it. It just brought me into a part, like kinda actually kind of sounds terrible, but a drug-induced type of part. But that's like it brought you into that zone and just a thought process, and the songs going into the next is a very a good call on that, Kevin. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3(2:10:41)

It's they certainly they certainly created the feeling of like being in California in Southern California and being at a house party and being messed up. Another one crazy was what happened. The one that has the it takes the a few notes from tequila. And he goes, Oh, what happened? And he's talking about how he got in a fight and you know, slept with some chick and and doesn't know who she is or where she came from or what she even looks like or yeah, exactly. What is it? What is what is that something on my head? My god, what is that awful smell? It's all about him waking up from a bender, and it's just like, oh, sadly I can I can relate to that back in that.

Speaker 1(2:11:29)

Well, I gotta tell you I gotta tell you guys a story as soon as we end this show, but I cannot put it online.

Speaker 2(2:11:38)

Okay, well, but I'm gonna start a band called Good Cult.

Speaker 1(2:11:40)

Instead of Bad Religion. Yeah. So um one thing that you said, Kev, before we wrap this up, is you know, we're we're sitting here and we've we've had our opinions on grunge through the nineties and how things change so much. But I think what you just nailed that none of us said throughout this whole show is we're bitching about some of these grunge bands, but then you're like, what happened after 2000? Everything fucking sucks. So we should be praising this stuff, and it just music is in just a different uh ballpark now, and there are some incredible bands out there. It's just too bad that it wasn't so yeah. Oh my god, there's a million of them. It's just that it's so oversaturated that people don't get to hear, you know, they don't it's not like an album came out every Tuesday back in the day. Now it's every fucking day there's 10 million things on YouTube. It's like I just want to go to the record store and see the 18 albums that came out on Tuesday morning. I know that would be and be like, I want this one. What a cool album cover, right? You know, that's been stripped away from us by the internet. Right? Yeah, it's been stripped away from us, and it kind of fucks the bands too, which is very unfortunate. I totally agree.

Speaker 3(2:13:21)

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get back to that, AJ, but I always have hope because if you look at there's always there's always a counterculture, there's always a reaction to the corporatization of of music. That's where punk came from. Right. I mean, as much as I love Pink Floyd, the the whole punk mantra was Pink Floyd must die. Because it was like everything became this massive production, everything was was prog rock, was yes, and Emerson Lake and Palmer, and they had orchestras playing behind them, and and punk was like, fuck you, I'm not even gonna learn how to play this guitar. I'm just gonna get out of here. Beat on it. So I think there will be some kind somewhere there will be a revolution in in the music, and somebody will do something. Um there's bands out there that are doing good stuff, but it's not ever gonna be, you know, yeah, music for you flipping through albums and right, it just needs to be narrowed down.

Speaker 1(2:14:18)

Awesome boys. Well, that was a lot of fun. Always so much fun talking about this stuff. Mark, I thank you very much, my brother.

Speaker 2(2:14:27)

Oh, you're welcome. You're on the clock. Here it's your pick next week.

Speaker 5(2:14:30)

Oh, damn it. That's right.

Speaker 1(2:14:32)

Kevin, thank you. Thanks, bro. Yes, indeed. Icehole, dongo. All right, good times. Yes, indeed. I'm just noticing your maiden shirt at this juncture. Uh but so much fun, and everyone out there, thank you so much for listening. We can't thank you enough for the continued support. So appreciated. Uh, just keep in mind, kiss fans out there, hoping to get a preachers of the night episode out there really quick, and we are out.