A Nostalgic Potpourri: Video Games, Sandwiches & Deadly Kid Stories

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Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of Past Times at 80s High. Got another fun one for you today. We are gonna do a nostalgic potpourri, taking us back to the roots. And of course, as always, I have the boys with me today. Dungo. Hey, what's happening? Hello, you ice hole. Kevin? Hello! Hello, and brother Hare. Hey guys, how's it going, man? Good man. Good. As we always say, we love to get going right out of the gate, but we're gonna throw to Kevin for his shout-outs.

Thank you, AJ. Uh, first, I have a question for you. Can you define the subtle differences between a mishmash, a potpourri, and a hodgepodge?

Yes, I can. Oh, okay. Oh, you can. They're all exactly the same fucking thing.

Oh, okay. All right. We want to say welcome to our new friends out in Sandy, Utah.

Nice.

Oh. We have some folks in Tokyo. We have some new listeners in Key Largo down in Latin Ballet.

Baby, when we go to the Bermuda.

Easy there. Oh, Uncle Jesse. Um and of course, for our big Lebowski fans, Donnie used to love to surf the beaches down at Pismo Beach.

And as a surfer, he explored the beaches of Southern California from Ohio to Leo Carrill and up to Pismo.

Out in California.

Welcome to you folks. Nice. Welcome everyone. Thank you for listening. We love it. Awesome. All right. Well, one thing just before we get going, because I know when I listen to a podcast that I'll normally just hit that skip button through those bumpers and the ads. So I just wanted to get our email address out there one more time, the correct one. And that is pta8h at gmail.com. What was that? Email again? PTA80H at gmail.com. So please reach out to us. Give us your comments. Give us your love, your hatred, what have you. But we love to hear the feedback. It's been awesome. So thank you all so much. And all right. So I'll start, I guess, right out of the gate with category number one, which is your favorite home console video game title. Okay, I want to make that clear because I didn't want someone just to say ColecoVision. You know, it's uh this is the title of a game that you love to play. And if we have some repeats here, folks, we apologize because we yap about a lot of shit when we chat. I'm sure some of this has come up, but I'm going with 1987's Mike Tyson's Punch Out. From the NES Nintendo Entertainment System makes me think a lot of my family, Brad Hair, you, um, our whole family, dad used to love to play this with me. Oh, yeah. And it was we'd compete, and it was just awesome. Uh, you have little Mac, and you just fought all of these awesome fighters like glasses. Great. Yeah, not the jaw. Don't hit the jaw. But yeah, uh, some of the jaw, some of the others, Don Flamenco with the rose in his mouth, uh, bald bull, King Hippo, Soda Popinski. Void Piston? Yep, void no, what was Piston? Honda Piston, Von Kaiser.

I love your hair. That was uh the which one was what was his name? Don Flamenco, right?

Love the hair. Yeah. Uh Mr. Sandman was another. And then, of course, if you could beat Tyson at the end, which I finally figured out, he was fast as F with those uppercuts. But it was just so fun, man. And there was an end game to it, which sometimes is great, which another game I wanted to talk about, but I'm not going to, and I won't say too much about it, but it was nice because there was kind of no end game because it was competition and you could play forever. This one I'd I had playability to it, though. I would play it over and over and over, and the memory of just sitting there on Prescott Hill with my dad sitting beside me on that couch, and he would be when it was his turn, he'd be playing with the remote. And I know you folks can't see me out there, but he would be jockeying, you know, moving. Oh yeah. And what what did little Mac say, and dad would say it all the time too was float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, like Mohabit Ali, man. And just a great, great.

Did he ever beat Tyson?

I I don't know. Dad never could make it that far.

Yeah, I lost to Glass Joe a few times, but after a while I never lost to him.

So oh dear God.

That's not yeah, he didn't have he had that that one victory. He was one in 99. So he was like a jobber in pro wrestling, pretty much.

You know what I mean? You know, it's you know it's funny, AJ, is that you you just said it when my son got a PlayStation. I was thinking, I got him a PlayStation for Christmas years ago, and and I'm thinking, wow, we can sit on the couch together and play a game. No, you can't. You got to get another machine and sit in a different room. I know what the they ruined it. They ruined, I mean, that's why I was excited about it because we could do something together, but no, they don't make games like that. I know, and it's so funny it's sad. And then the the other thing is when the Wii came out, the boxing game became cardio workout, and because you literally had to hold the controllers and throw punches and move around, and it was like I could have used that when I was 12, but 50, it's a little bit more of a challenge.

I was so good at Wii bowling. Oh my god, I bowled perfect games. I had that book going. I was unbelievable, but I can't pick that one. It's uh 21st century shit, you know.

Dad could bowl 300s too. It was awesome. But Kevin, I can see you losing before the end of round one because you can't do it anymore.

Well, I had to set the controller down to light a cigarette, so too funny.

That's awesome. All right, Dongo, I'll send it to you.

All right, so I went with Back to the Old School being the first original uh game on Atari 2600. It was the game that came after all the you know the basic ones that it came with, and it was pitfall. Yeah, which came out in 1982, and at the time that was like good graphics compared to some of the previous games before that that I won't mention, but Atari's games were two gigabyte games or whatever, and you know, pitfall was slightly more than what the console could handle as far as graphics-wise, but I mean, for being a kid in 1982, it was amazing to me, you know. It was like this is awesome. We're playing gig colored video games at home on the TV. You know, that was awesome, and the game was fun, and it was you know, just swinging on ropes and jumping over pits, and you know, I doubt I ever finished the game, but it was just a cool game back in the day for me.

Incredible game, Dongo. Yeah, makes me think of my next door neighbor. I used to play it at the Gamash's house before we could afford an Atari, which we could never afford. My aunt bought it for us, but that's a great, great call, Don. I think it had three or four different colors on it, which was phenomenal back then. Yeah.

Green, white, brown. Yeah, that was it.

It had music behind it, and you know, yeah, the crazy it wasn't a lot of color.

And the ad for music, yeah. The ad for that was the last thing that Jack Black did that didn't annoy me.

So just last night, I was lost in the jungle with pitfall Harry, surrounded by giant scorpions and man-eating crocodiles. Well, Harry and I just grabbed the van, swung through the trees, and over the tarpets, and found the jungle treasure. It was really neat.

Oh, yeah.

I'm a little fatigued with Mr. Black.

Yeah, I yeah. Awesome. All right, Kevin, that sends it to you.

All right, so you kind of touched on this, AJ. We didn't have an Atari, we didn't have a ColecoVision, wasn't in the budget, we didn't have whatever came out next after that. So when I was on my own renting a room, so I didn't have a full rent to pay. Um, I was working full-time, of course, but I finally had a little bit of spending money, and I got myself a Sega Genesis. So we're probably talking about Sega 9091, somewhere somewhere in that era. And my favorite game on that was Road Rash. Because not only could you do the motorcycle race, but you could also pull up next to the other racers and kick and punch them, or whip them with a chain, or a baseball bat. So it was like a racing game plus violence. Yeah. So it was the perfect combination.

Motorcycle Chinese downhill.

Chinese downhill. What the fuck?

Is the Chinese a downhill?

It was, and the graphics were, you know, that was wasn't Genesis the first 16-bit.

Yes.

Yeah. So there was a big jump in graphics. They looked pretty cool.

You go back and look for it on YouTube now, and you're like, that was a big selling point too, Kev, the 16. 16 graphics, man, in the commercial. Awesome. Double. Yep. Oh, great pick. Brother Mark off D.

All right. Okay, I'm gonna take you back to Hensdale when the Patriots were going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, we don't want to talk about that game, but uh, we had an Atari football game. Uh, do you remember that, AJ? I think it was called touchdown football. I mean, I like the game because I I was always coming in off the edge with Garen

Verris and Andre Tippett, and you know, making all these sacks and everything. And I unlike you guys, I was never massively big into video games. I did get into them. I mean, now that I'm last, there's advantages to being last. There was a couple of good ones on uh you know the Nintendo that we had, the fishing game and the Lee Treveno golf game.

Yep, but don't forget we could continue this category down the lines.

Well, that's very true. So, but yeah, this football game was just it was really probably the first game I ever played. And it was Atari. Yeah, I I was great at pass rushing.

What did the players look like? Were they like human looking or were they like squares? Squares.

They had the name attached

to they had the name attached to them. So that I thought that was really cool. It's like, well, they know who's on the team now. And uh, but you know, interestingly, I was listening, uh, I was going to get the mail and whatnot today, and I was listening to 98.5 the sports hub, and big Jim Murray was talking about now you need a degree in Madden to play.

It's ridiculous, he was saying yeah, it is, it's fucking ridiculous. Hockey too. Hockey too. Yep. And that since you mentioned a few titles there, I'm gonna say one too, and I apologize. Sega Genesis, Kevin, uh NHL 94 by EA Spores. Yeah, yeah, 93 and 94. Incredible.

Yeah, it's famous. Yeah, yeah. We talked about that before. It was awesome.

And it's so famous that they literally were were the best. They Lemieux and Jagger. Yeah. Ben always was uh I forget now who Roanick played for. Was it was it Detroit? Blackhawks. Blackhawks, yeah. And Roanick and he always had the fucking wraparound goal on me, and I couldn't beat him because of that one move. But I love that it had the one timers, it was just incredible. Awesome pick, Mark. Being in Hinsdale playing Atari was that was the like I said, the first time we had a home console game. Yeah, and I think you're right. Wow, yeah. Ugh, I'm not gonna say more names. Alrighty, so we're back to me for number two, and this is gonna be your favorite old school classic sandwich. And when I say school, I don't mean school, I just mean old school. And I'm going with liver best, which is what I call it. And everyone out there knows it is liverwurst naturally.

Liverwurst on rye bread with raw onion and brown mustard was the construction worker's sandwich from New York to Milwaukee. German and Eastern European immigrants brought Liverwurst to America in the 1880s, and by the 1920s, it was a deli staple in every city with a sizable immigrant population. The smooth, spreadable liver sausage was piled on dense pumper nickel or rye, while raw onion cut through the richness like a blade.

Yeah, Congo, let me make you one someday. And I gotta bring my dad into this one in a minute, too, because on rye bread with butter, raw onion, and mustard. And there you go, Kev. Something I love mustard on. And the way my dad would explain it was just like that. It was you put the liverwurst down, and he's gonna have raw onion. He made everything sound so fucking good.

Sorry, he would even say he would have to say sliced or dice, not this, this way.

Yes, exactly. But this sandwich to this day, I still make it. I can't remember, it's like Deutschweimer or something, is the best liverwurst out there, or liver best, and it's like a six circle package of it that's by the hot dogs. I've tried every liver best at the deli, everything, and that's still the best to me. But I love the sandwich, it's incredible, and I have one more quick story about it because it cracks me up anyway. But brother Mark and I went to a Patriots game one day that it was about 95 fucking degrees out. I can't remember where we stopped, Mark, if it was in Concord or whatever, but I got a sub and Mark got a liver best sub. And then he put it in the center console for the whole game, and then came. We came back out, gotten that car, and it punched you right in the fucking chin. It smelled so bad, and Mark was gonna eat it. I'm like, no, you can't touch that sandwich, brother. My god, that will kill you if you ate it at that point. Like four hours in fucking 95 degree heat.

Yeah.

But what a lovely sandwich!

Didn't you eat one out of a cooler or something? Like a fishing cooler.

That's the famous herring sandwich.

Yes, that wasn't Liverworth.

No, it was not. It was an Italian sub. Mark pulled, we're fishing on the ocean, and Mark pulls it out of a fucking cooler filled with raw, rotting herring, and the sub is saturated in water. I still remember dad yelling at you about this, and you just dug into that son of a bitch. Oh disgusting, Mark. Marinated Italian sandwich.

Delicacy in sandwich.

You know, it looks like putting sardines in it, too, or something, you know.

Raw, rotten herring, fish bait. Well, good for you, Mark. I'm sure as F that helped your immune system. And I mean that.

Have you guys come across on on the social media the street food people in like India?

Um, I watch a lot of street food, but I don't know about India.

Oh my it is absolutely repulsive. Somebody sent me one the other day. The this is gonna you're gonna have to take this out, but the dude was literally sitting on the side with her always barefoot. And there's you know, thank God for all the years that I spent arguing with the health department about picky you and little things that didn't mean nothing. I am so thankful they exist. This guy was literally like splitting the pieces of of lamb or beef or whatever with his jagged toenail.

Oh yeah, a feet hater like me. Oh yeah, I want to vomit.

Oh my god, that's why I didn't send it to you because I knew you'd throw up on yourself. That's fucking funny. My god, those videos are like, and then people making fun of them are hilarious because they're reaching in with their filthy hands. And I'm just I'm gonna stop because it's just you just look at them and and you're like, wow, how does how does that go on?

And how do people not die from like because their immune system's so powerful from doing the right thing and eating all those germs?

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Well, I don't want an immune system if that's what it takes. I guess if I guess if you're not gonna die in the pyramid that they do that's 800 feet tall in every year and falls over in the parade or fall off a train or a bus because you're sitting on the roof with 8,000 other people, then eating off the sidewalk where people defecate is probably the least risky thing of your day, I guess. Oh I'm not going.

Oh my god.

All right.

Well, now that I uh have no appetite, like talking about food.

There you go.

And off to you, dongo.

Okay, getting appetite back, trying to bring us back, dog. So this was you know, I spent my summers in the Freetown, Massachusetts area, which is very close to New Bedford, which has a very big Portuguese population. And down there they would make the best, best pastrami sandwiches. Oh, so good.

Piled high pastrami sandwiches on rye bread topped with spicy brown mustard is an icon of New York and the Jewish jelly.

Yes, yes, yes, you know, being a young kid, eating one of those. Was like I remember it being like a flavor explosion, like almost too much. But I would like this is good. I know it's good. I gotta choke it down, even though it was so much, you know, so much spice. Like you didn't put anything on it, it was just pastrami and whatever they use for a spice packet on those things. Like, you know, maybe they put mustard on it, but on rye bread or pumper nickel or something like that, right? But just so greasy and just fat is flavor, and those things that were packed with flavor. And I those are a good memory of the I wouldn't eat one now, it's too much. Oh my god, Dongo.

I still love pastram nos. I would eat it right now if I had it in front of me. Oh my god, what is it? Grease. Yeah. Do we get the red or the black? I forget.

Is that the red or the white?

I can never remember that.

I like the red. I I was gonna go into it because I think it's important. I would never say no to the black pastrami, but the red plate pastrami shaved because it has all of the fat. I mean, it's almost almost looks the same as a piece of bacon when you shave it. You know what I mean? It's like 40 to 60 percent fat, and and you know, the other is is so in my memory, it was red.

It was always red and just sopping with grease and yeah, and so pepper and full.

Yeah, muscle. So we used to we used to get it at the drive-in that I worked at, and you'd open up the cryovac package, and it was I think predominantly paprika is what's on the outside of it, but there's other seasonings in there. But I would open that package up and I would I would literally just take the the spices off and and oh even old neighborhood.

I'll buy that sometimes at the store, the old neighborhood.

Yeah, it's not as good as it used to be, but it's yeah, the old the shaved old and it's like ten dollars a pound or more probably now. But I'm telling you, you Donnie, you said with nothing on it but pastrami, Swiss cheese, and yellow mustard, and I'm a happy boy, at least until it hits my lower intestines and I can't breathe because the indigestion is so deadly now.

Yeah, you exp yeah, and you destroy your toilet.

Yeah, no, not that, just a heartburn. I'm gonna chug it down with a bottle of Pepto Bismo and some, you know, it just it's so good, but it it literally hurts.

Yeah, similar to eat them. Awesome pick, Dongo. And Kevin, there's a second one where I love mustard, so you can no longer dig me for that. And it's off to you, man.

Yes, but mustard is the primary, yes, it's not a secondary seasoning, it's it's a primary seasoning. So this is really kind of the same family, but I just absolutely love me some Underwood Deviled Ham.

Underwood Deviled Ham, the oldest trademarked food product in the United States, came in small red cans with that little devil on the label. Mothers spread the spicy, finely ground ham paste on soft white bread, sometimes adding a leaf of Iceberg lettuce or a smear of yellow mustard. The taste was salty, peppery, and unmistakably American. A can cost nine cents in 1945. In the lunch pails of railroad workers, in the school bags of Midwest children, in the picnic baskets at county fairs, deviled ham was everywhere.

Oh, same thing on a piece of bread with some yellow mustard, still gonna give me the same heartburn. I think it might be the mustard, not the ham. But whoever, I don't know how you can take something like ham and just change the flavor of it so much. I have no idea what they season it with. I need to look it up and try to make my own at some point. Oh, but that just I'm instantly, it's a it's a time machine for me to take out a piece of of oh, my mother used to get like the and by the way, I need to shout out because mom turns 80 today. Oh right. Happy birthday to recording.

Happy birthday, happy birthday to you.

So that's cool. But she bought the uh I think it was the Niss Nissan um split top wheat. Split top wheat or split top buttertop wheat and buttertop white. Yes, the buttertop wheat. So that with I mean, now I put a whole can because it's a tiny can. I put a whole can in one sandwich. Oh, you have to, and it's just so good. I mean, you got that layer of of of glistening light on the top, and it's just so good. It's so good. How could how could it be wrong? No, it's it's awesome. And it just like I said, it's a time machine. It takes me right back to to my childhood the second I open that can up, and you're like, if I was blind, I might confuse this with cat food.

Oh, definitely. Yeah, I I I wasn't gonna I didn't want to belittle your sandwich. Like, do you guys remember? I I don't even know if I they still might make the chicken one, they have a chicken version of Deviled Ham.

Oh, that does not sound good, dude.

But they back in you know, in the 70s, 80s or whatever, they had uh a roast beef version of it.

Oh I don't remember that. I haven't seen the chicken one in years, but I do remember that. Just wasn't given the choice of the two, I would always go to the deviled ham. Nice.

I mean, I we used to buy that all the time back when we were.

Oh my god, another SS is I'll call them today. It's another salty sandwich, meaning my dad. Incredible.

All right, Mark, off to you. Okay, well, this is a good segue going from mom to Aunt Sill. This is where I learned to love this sandwich, this makeshift sandwich, on fresh Syrian bread that Aunt Sill made. Or, you know, today if you get it at a good uh Lebanese store or whatever, you can get it fresh, they make it right there. But kiba sandwiches and Syrian bread. Thank you, sir.

This traditional delicacy is especially popular in Lebanese cooking and is a true representation of the region's culinary heritage. Traditionally, kibbinaye is served as an appetizer or as part of a mezzo platter during special occasions and gatherings. Because it is made with raw meat, it is essential to use very fresh.

Which is raw kibba. Kibbi as most people know it, K-I-B-E-E. It's raw diet lean hamburger with these delicious spices. You know, you would put a little uh oil on it, or humsel, which is uh red sauce with onions, or you could just put sliced red onions in with your kibba, and I'm telling you, I started craving it once this category came up.

Oh man.

Oh my god. I mean, Donnie, you've tried kiba, right?

Oh, yeah, I love it.

Did you you grew a taste for it?

Yeah.

Kevin tried it too once at gongo's. Yeah, yeah, it is so good. So you have what'd you think of it, Kevin?

Um, I I I love the flavor and I love the concept. Uh it it just because of my history and food service and my germophobia, knowing that it came from somewhere what an hour and a half away, it was kind of like that deliver best sandwich in the in the glove box.

I put it on ice, you asshole.

I was just I know, but I was just to me to me, and I get it, and I appreciate that you got it, and I love trying it. It makes me want to go to the source and have it like as it's made, and and and I think that would be that we did have it.

We should do that then, Kev. We should go down. There's a great place in Salem. That's a great pick mark, and I'm really upset that it didn't click with me.

Well, I'm glad it didn't, though, because just made me think of just made me think of Eddie Murphy. Hakana. Is that the name of the is that the name of the place, the the deli where you get the sandwich? Hakana.

I don't like that shit. That Arabic that the motherfuckers be speaking in the 7-Eleven. That shit fuck with sound nasty and shit. We're getting all this shit. Hankana hawking the mind.

That's a word in Arabic. That means some shit to them. Maybe walking out to go. Can I have a ham and cheese hero?

Never mind, man. I don't want no hocking on my bread, motherfucker. That's it.

I don't want no hakken on my sandwich.

That doesn't sound appetizing, man.

I should make a correction on mine where I said that, you know, pastrami sandwich is not necessarily a Portuguese sandwich, but it it's actually probably more a Jewish sandwich.

Pastrami actually came from a Romanian dish called pasturma, which was made traditionally from goose. When Jewish immigrants arrived in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, goose was not readily available, but beef was cheap and in abundance. And so goose pasturma morphed into beef pastrami.

It was just very predominant down in that area of New Bedford that had a lot of uh Portuguese uh folks down there that would prepare it in a certain way, but not in itself.

I'm glad you brought that up, Dongo, because I was gonna call you out on that later.

A lot of food's nationalities are have been co-opted. I mean, isn't the history of pasta go back to China? Yeah and the Italians get credited for it. So there's a lot of that where people just, you know, hey, maybe maybe one group made it and another group perfected it.

Yep, yeah, Lebanese and Greece, man, and Greek food. Very a lot of them are similar as well. Mediterranean type. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, would Greece help? That's a Reverend Rick. I've never heard that one. Oh, that was Reverend Ricky? Oh, yeah, he used to throw that one out.

Uh Rickyism. Rick's time. I would have met him, man. Yeah.

Yeah, maybe. Sounds like a hoop. Yeah. For a brief moment, yes. Oh, hey eight hours of drinking. Oh, he could get annoyed. God rest his soul.

That never happened to you or I, Kev.

No, no. No.

Alrighty. So we're to number three. Something a teacher did that they couldn't get away with today. And I don't believe this was a category, but I believe it's something I have spoken about on the cast in the past. How to F could I not use this one? Okay. This goes back to fourth grade to Mr. Fleck. And I was smacked in the mouth by him. And I bled.

The teacher uh was granted early retirement with pension after he was captured on a video, striking a student with enough force to cause actual injury.

He asked for it. That'll do it. He beats up a child and says, Hey guy, you will never be allowed to teach here again. Now get out of here with full benefits.

I had a bloody lip. Okay. I don't remember the exact incident that happened, but that's where I started to get labeled in school and as the punk, which I wasn't trying to be, they just didn't like me for some reason, and I kind of was a pain in the ass. But I told them I was tired of getting treated like shit. And whap, he smacked me in the face. And if that were to happen today, he would lose his effing job so fucking fast, he'd never teach again. But the beauty of this story to me, which I've also spoken of, I believe, is the fact that my mom, and this could pop into a later category, but I can edit that if I need to. But the beauty of this to me, that's so funny now, but probably wasn't so funny then, is the fact that he grabbed my ear basically and brought me down to the principal's office and called my parents. Uh, dad was, of course, running a bread route, so he couldn't be there. So my mom came in and stood up. My mom out there, folks, Mark and I's mom, was about five feet tall. Okay. Yeah. The the she's an angel. Yeah, I'm so gonna wet. Yes. Yeah. And she stood up and got right in this man's face and said the only reason he's not gonna lose his job is that she knew I asked for it. Yeah. And that's just I wish parents were like that today because what the fuck? You know, I mean, I was I probably asked for it. I don't know if I deserved to get hit, but maybe dragged to the office by the ear would have been okay.

That would have been sufficient right there.

Right, yeah, right. But anyway, that's my answer because yeah, if you saw a teacher smack a kid today, what do you think would happen out there, people? I'd love to hear your input.

Yeah, today, AJ, it would it would be the AJ Memorial Elementary School, yeah. Exactly, named after you, and you would have owned the town, yeah, and and and all of that.

And prison for 20 years, right?

Probably if a few more teachers had a backhanded you and I, we'd probably be have gotten further in life.

Yeah, right. Exactly. No shit.

I didn't like it back then, but I'm sure I could have used a little more child abuse. Oh, hell yeah.

And I had plenty. Awesome. Okay, Dongo, what do you got?

Alrighty, so this one I'll keep the teachers' names out of it to protect their identity. Um, but we were on a high school trip. Uh, we went to California on a domestic exchange program. Oh, wow. And uh actually the teachers were really cool, and they what they did was they took us to Tijuana and then let us go, like unsupervised.

When people hear the name Tijuana, the reactions are usually extreme. Some imagine a wild party city just across the U.S. border, famous for nightlife, cheap drinks, and quick weekend getaways. Others picture a dangerous place filled with cartel violence and crime stories from the news.

So, what do high school kids do when they're in Tijuana and they're unsupervised? We go to a bar and we drink, and you know what I mean? So the teachers that were supposed to be chapering at us were probably in another bar drinking, um, which I'm surprised we didn't run into them, but but yeah, they just let us go. They just you know, which was you would never see that nowadays, you know. And what I want to kind of bring up is that the reason why they can't do that today is there's no we didn't have cell phones back then, so all it would have taken is one of us with a cell phone to take a picture of this high school underage kids drinking in a bar in Tijuana, yeah, yeah, and it would have been all over it, and then the principal would have said, Hey, why are these kids drinking in a bar in Tijuana? The teachers would have got in trouble, we would have got in trouble, you know what I mean? But because all of us were without phones, we were able to do that kind of stuff, you know.

You can't do that nowadays, but put the internet into that conversation, dongo, with the phones, and now they're really doomed because now you're all over social media.

Uh high school group uh doing you know shots on a mule's ass in Tijuana.

So uh to find you said you said you guys obviously went to the bar first. I'm thinking with all the other stories about Tijuana, why didn't you go to the donkey show first and then maybe pick up a lady?

Oh my god. There's a reason why. When I was in the Navy stationed in San Diego area, they would make it so that you could drink on base, not being 21, because they wanted to prevent the young 18-year-old military guys from going to Tijuana. Right. Wow, they'd always have like a prisoner exchange. Basically, they'd drive a bus over with all the sailors coming out, you know, that were in the tank for the night, you know, like you and David getting in Cancun or whatever, you know. Yeah, almost getting arrested. They didn't have money to bribe them off, but you know, you know, guys going down getting you know, girls and debauchery.

Yeah, debauchery. Not only did they let you go, they let you go in Tijuana, Mexico.

It's probably one of the worser.

Please don't draw me no diaphragms, yeah.

Worser. It's probably one of it's not a nice place for people that who have never visited.

Well, I must say this, Dongo, and if I must add it, I shall. But a little side cast we did in the past, you have mentioned these teachers. So you inadvertently threw them under the bus. But guess what? They're all retired and fine now, right? Right, and they were awesome. I mean, they were great, incredible.

Love did you prep up by watching Losin' it?

Dave's been itching for it. Woody can't stand it.

If I can wait, why can't you wait?

And Spider will do anything for it.

Spider!

Stop him! There comes a time when nothing seems more important than losing it.

We're gonna be as crude as we want, as guilty as we want, and as gross as we want.

I was reminiscing very similar. We didn't we didn't get quite as crazy as they did, but you know, certainly could have went that way. Yeah.

Nice one, dungo.

All right, Kev. So uh this is funny because it it's about how things got kind of overlooked back then for one gender, and now they're overlooked for another gender. Uh-oh. Because I remember distinctly there was a teacher in my high school that had gotten a student pregnant and married her. And it was pretty much common knowledge. Every everybody knew it, and nobody like said anything out loud.

Am I sorry he's the father of my children and that we're married and this is the man of my life? No, I'm not.

Uh, today, if a man were to do that, and I'm not condoning any of it, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Um, if a man were to do that, he would be tarred and feathered in the town square. Oh, great. Never teach again and wouldn't be allowed near children, and probably rightfully so. However, and you see this so much, and the 16-year-old me is quite jealous. Oh, yeah, but the father in me is like, it's still wrong. There's a rash of I know where you're going, ma'am. Attractive, yeah.

It's almost like a syndrome of some kind.

You see the pictures of them, and these young female teachers, it's not for lack of being able to hook up anywhere else, right? It's got to be some kind of power trip or which makes it kind of nastier, right? It's but female teachers preying on young boys, right? I say as a father, yeah.

Yeah, for right.

As a 16-year-old, there was a couple of them where why? Why won't why won't you?

Oh, right.

But yeah, just a huge difference that that back then it was kind of swept under the rug when when a man did that. And at least in my world, it didn't happen with the female teachers. Although thinking back, there was only one or two of them where I would have accepted that.

I think there was only maybe two in our school.

You didn't want to you didn't want to bang the 82-year-old librarian Bertha with the big hairy mole on the side of her face.

No, no, not so much. But yeah, just curious how it just kind of, and again, that's the that's the dichotomy of male-female, and and and all of that. It's like, can you imagine if somebody like ratted out a attractive female teacher as a high school senior being like, yeah, she took took advantage of me. We'd have beat the shit out of her.

What the hell is wrong with you? Shut up. Can I go next? Yeah, right. You can ruin the chances for the rest of us. Yeah, it's cool. Awesome. I in middle school, I would have done anything for the guidance counselor, the female guidance counselor, I should add.

That's the one that I think I would have. Oh I will not say anything, but I always had a hunch that she was banging the vice principal. No, I thought she maybe. Some of our friends maybe might have had a go with her. Oh, I hope so for no proof of that. You remember that just sheer hunch.

They never told me if they did, but I I can't remember if I I mentioned that the two science teachers that I think ended up getting married, they they rented a house down at the end of my buddy's street, and we used to go out late night and just you know, fun loving criminals. But there was a picture window in the living room of this house that they rented, and they lived together, and we were walking by at like one, two o'clock in the morning, and the light was on, and we wandered right up to the big picture window and looked in, and there were the two teachers and the assistant principal, and they were passing a bong around. So I looked at my buddy and he looked at me. We knocked on the window, went, hi. We didn't get in a lot of trouble after that.

Yeah, well, not only that, but did they not invite you in?

They did not invite us in. No, I think they were probably we probably killed their buzz. We harshed their mellow, thinking, shit, who are those kids gonna tell? But again, it worked for us because any time that we were about to get in trouble, we'd just look at them and they'd be like, never mind. Yeah, we had hand.

You had the upper hand. That's okay.

Yeah, you're gonna need it, the girl said.

I remember that part. Exactly. Yeah, you're gonna be using it too.

Where are you going? I am breaking up with you.

You can't break up with me.

I've got hand, and you're gonna need it.

Awesome. They're real and they're magnificent. Spectacular. Spectacular, thank you.

All right, Mark, to you. All right, well, this one, you know, most people don't remember their first grade. And uh I'm not I don't even remember if it was a substitute teacher or the regular teacher. I don't even know what I did. I again, first grade. So what does she do to embarrass me and to punish me? She makes me stand underneath her skirt. Covered. The skirt was totally covered, and I'm standing under her skirt. Could she see it? If I would, you know, with 17 or something, but she's could you see it or not?

Did she have underwear? I was in first freaking grade.

I was humiliated. I was absolutely humiliated, and I think that that has stayed with me all these years. And uh you know, maybe you couldn't get away with it now. Maybe that's normal behavior now.

But that's definitely odd.

Yeah, but the first grade was 1970 something for you, right, Mark?

71. Yeah, this is 71.

So if you had looked up, you would have thought she had Dr. J in her underwear anyway. So yeah, probably.

He had a real ample. I mean, he could be combing his hand, you didn't know what he was gonna pull out of it, man.

I don't I don't know what I did or what whatever, but you know, I had to say, I mean That's a great one. That's it.

If they did that today, it is shocking.

Yeah, well, are you traumatized by it, brother? What what age? I said are you traumatized by it? I was for a while, yes.

I mean he tuna for weeks too funny, yeah. That's pretty fucked up, Mark. That she did that pretty weird. Today would be a wonderful thing, but I mean, you know, we've been trying to get somebody to do it ever since. Yeah. All right, number four, and what we're doing is our biggest fear from when we were kids. And mine is uh pretty obvious from an 80s kid, I guess. But I'm going with nuclear war and the cold war. Uh I lived a few years of my life, and I'm not being sarcastic when I say this, utterly horrified every day about the end of the world.

Thinking down the future, not only for ourselves and our lifetime, but for other generations, that the great nations of the world will sit here uh like people facing themselves across a table, each with a cocked gun, and no one knowing whether someone might tighten their finger on the on the trigger.

Was that the name of the movie at one point? Pretty much. What was that movie, everyone that day after?

There was a great earthquake. The sun became black as sackcloth, and a third of the earth was burnt up.

That was horrifying. And there was one, there was like a after-school special, or one of those where a boat like came into you know Washington Harbor kind of thing and blew up a nuke.

Yeah, just there was a lot of those back then, it was brutal, and the threat of it was so real that people were building fucking bomb shelters in their yards if they could afford it. And I of course I have reptilian brain, I'm a I'm a horrified of everything anyway. And I just I did. I I would wake up in the morning, and that was a fear for a very long time for me. And I'm sure that anyone who grew up in the 80s had a similar fear about it, whether it was acute as mine or not. It was quite valid fear, yeah. Yeah, it was scary as fuck, you know. And then you had Reagan's Star Wars plan and all that, right?

Yeah, you know, it all laughed at it, but here we are.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, see what Elon's gonna pull off with that stuff, but yeah, so I'll just leave it at that. I won't go into too much depth about it, and I'll go to you, Dongo. Cool, all right.

So, my biggest fear is kind of local, but I think I could broaden it to everyone out there because I, you know, it's but in 1981, when I was in Massachusetts, in the um Brockton area, there was this like weird scare about the clowns. They were clowns. And there was like an it was almost like an urban legend, but the as a kid in elementary middle school, the the rumor was that these clowns were in a van, black van, and they were kidnapping people. And this was like everywhere down there. We were freaked out about it.

What if a van stopped beside you and a clown inside whispered, Come closer? In 1981, that nightmare became a reality for children in Boston. Reports flooded in of clowns in vans stalking schoolyards, waving candy and toys, and begging kids to get inside. Terrified children ran home and told their parents everything. Panic spread fast across the city. Police swarmed the neighborhoods, but every time they arrived, the clowns vanished without a trace. Sightings then spread to nearby towns. Teachers warned their students to never walk alone. Yet no clown was ever caught. Some said it was mass hysteria. Others swore it was real. The Phantom Clown Panic gripped Boston and left parents watching their children's shadows by the roadside. So I ask you, if a clown van pulled up beside you, would you run?

But it was, uh I think it was in the Brookline area of Massachusetts where they actually had like people calling in, but they never could prove it. They never caught anybody, they never could prove it. It was probably just some urban legend. But back in 2016, there was some clown stuff going around the country or whatever. So it's just clowns are freaky, and weird psychopathic clowns were a uh were definitely uh a scary, you know, scary for me back then as a kid and getting kidnapped, stranger danger, all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, and it was definitely nationwide at one point.

Was there ever a time, uh not in my life, but I'm wondering, was there ever a time that clowns were joyous and and you know not frightening as hell? I mean, pre-John Wayne Gacy.

I mean, yeah, I'm gonna mention him, yeah.

Right, everything from pennywise on back. I can't think of I'm just as a little kid watching somebody made up, I just I never found clowns funny. No, I found them frightening, creepy, yeah.

Bozo, you had well, Ronald McDonald's.

Clarabelle. You can talk. Oh my golly, I I don't believe you can talk. Well, Claribel, this is your last chance now. Claribel, if you can talk, prove it. Let's let's hear you say something.

Exactly. Nice don't go. Creepy as F.

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All right, Kevin.

All right, I'm gonna go even more local because honestly, I I just I didn't have a lot of fears because I lived with my dad and there was such fear there. Um there was no room for nuclear war, probably would have been your biggest fear, AJ, but I probably would have welcomed it because it wouldn't meant I didn't have to deal with him anymore. Um, but outside of that, and I'm not gonna use any first names, but the name just kind of it still resonates with me. The Cutters was a family. The gentleman in in question here was well known in the area for having a short temper, chased a guy with a chainsaw, uh, just one of those guys that you just don't know how much of the reputation was, but he was he was a sturdy young man. And they were, I think Cutter went back, I think they were woodsmen all through their family. Um, but somebody broke into his sister's car and stole her class ring. It was not me. I had no way to get there. It was two towns over. This is before I had my license. I had no way to get there. It wasn't me. I have a pretty good idea who did it, and that person was probably the same person that gave them my name. But the word went out that they were after me. Oh and I honestly thought, you know, you're 15 years old, and the crazy family that chases people with chainsaws has now got you in in their sights. Horrifying. It's a horrifying feeling. Uh yeah. Fortunately, my best friend at the time was a sizable dude. Um, so I had some protection with him and some of my other friends, uh, but it was his dad that actually showed up. I remember we used to do the the Rochester 500, which was a circuit around town, and there was a parking lot where we'd all meet up, and we ended up at that parking lot, and the ultimate fear happened. They they all showed up, jumped out of the cars, came after me. Well, my buddy's dad showed up at that exact moment, and I did not die. Oh man. But that was probably the most fear that I ever felt. Oh, it's like this this dude's gonna fucking kill me, and I didn't do anything, right?

And it's not just one dude either.

Yeah, exactly. Well, he was he was he he had the legend was around him, but yes, the other family members were also batching crazy and dangerous as well, backing them up. So that was that was my that was the most fear I ever felt.

Oh, and I don't blame you. I gotta ask you this though, Kev. Yeah, was it because of the chainsaw, or was their real name cutter?

Well, that was that was the family name, right? Well, just how they got the name. Well, like I said, I think they're they like historically were woodspeople, so probably somewhere along the line, his great-great-great-grandfather was a woodsman and they named him Cutter.

Right.

He was damn good with that chainsaw, or maybe they just took the name literally and decided they'd, you know, they rolled it.

And I bet his brother really made some good head cheese.

Hedge. They they take the head and they boil it, except for the tongue. It's really good.

I wasn't talking genealogy with them at the time. I was trying to backpedal and save my fucking life because some piece of shit turned me into save his own ass.

I don't think they got the name of Ellis Island. Probably not. Nice.

Showed him to Ellis Island with a chainsaw. 50 years before they were invented.

Uh horrifying, man. Nice pick. Okay, Mark, off to you.

Well, I mean, I thought of others while I was doing this, but I mean, my biggest fear um is a little personal, so I'm not going to get into that one, but uh, the one fear that was very strong in me was that do you guys remember a Hal Lindsay? He had a book called The Late Great Planet Earth.

Man is faced by unprecedented perils that threaten to send him crashing into the dark abyss of silence known as extinction.

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And this fit right into it, you know, revelations and uh he he was predicting that the 80s, our wonderful decade that we speak of so fondly was gonna be the end of the world, you know, with the rapture in 1981 and the Antichrist and everything, and mom and dad were really big into you know, born-again Christians and tell you I was just petrified that I wasn't gonna have any chance to be anybody, and it was over.

And the end of the world was coming.

Yes, and you know, anyone who if they're giving you a timeline, it's just right now it's wasn't it 2012 another one too?

And well, I mean AOC told us we only have 12 years left, and that was, I don't know, eight years ago or something, but millennials and people and you know, Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we're like the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don't address climate change. And your biggest issue is your your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?

We've talked about this before. Like AJ, you were talking about nuclear war. Mark, you're talking about the end of the world. I remember Africanized bees.

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What I was probably years old. They were gonna come and they were gonna kill us. There's been a boogeyman for our entire lives and probably our parents' lives as well. There's Y2K. Oh, satellites were gonna fall out of the sky and crush us. 2012, the apocalypse was gonna come because some calendar ran out in the calendar ran out. Yeah, mine that didn't that didn't work either. And then, you know, there's there's they feed us something to fear constantly.

It's every couple of years.

Yeah, something to terrorism covet, and as a you know, an adolescent boy, it was very yeah, it was scary. I didn't know what to make of it, you know.

I'm not gonna go into COVID, but what about now? What about like the whole world trying to make biological death for everyone?

It's yeah, so the threat of nuclear war hasn't gone, AJ. Sorry, just the cold war ended. It's just a different fear, like Kevin said.

I know when I was going over this, a book that came to my mind. It's I'll throw a title out there, The Psychology of Totalitarianism by uh Matthias Desmond is an amazing book about um he calls it mass formation, but another term mass formation psychosis, yeah. Right, and mass psychosis or whatever, and how people can be, you know, you can use fear, fear of the masses can, you know, allow for totalitarianism to creep in, you know, it's always a power grab of some kind using fear against the masses, of course.

Precisely, but that's also like with the the the monkeys that where they put the not not not Peter Tork and D show. That's what I was gonna say. Oh wow, they want to start saying put the monkeys in the cage, and every time they went up the ladder to grab the banana, they hit him with a hose, and then they started trading the monkeys out until there weren't any monkeys left that had ever seen them hit with a hose, but they refused to go up the ladder to go after the banana because as the progression went, all the other monkeys beat the shit out of the monkey that tried to go up there, and so you just you they instill fear, and people make decisions based on that fear. Yep, and this would be a great place for whoever edits this part to put in Roosevelt.

So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Never spoken.

He was on to something. Wow, yeah, effing crazy, I tell ya. Alright, so that's number five to me. And we're good, we're gonna do a reason you were suspended or given detention. I have to go with this one again. I may have spoken about it in the past, but I I was in school in Guilford in the stairwell. I I'm not proud of this, mind you. I punched a kid in the face. Because as Mark said earlier, our parents were very Bible bullet Christians at this point, and he kept saying, Bah, I'm the devil. And I punched a kid in the stairwell in high school, and then when the teacher was gonna bring me to the office, I threatened to rip her eyebrows off. Which I found comical at the time because I forget what uh WWF wrestler said it.

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I was suspended. And this is the beauty I was not a great student. Another thing I'm not proud about. So let's punish this kid by giving him five days off. So they suspended me for five days out of school suspension. And on the notice that came home to my parents, it said AJ is suspended for threatening, you know, the punching thing too, but as he threatened to rip the eyebrows off a teacher.

I'm gonna rip off your eye brows.

What grade was this again? Uh that was sixth or seventh. I think seventh, because I just before I moved. And one more quick thing, and I'll leave it at that. But uh ISS was way worse. You know, when you got in school suspension, it was boring as fuck. And a shout out to DeGee again, Mark, because I was in ISS with him one day, and just a comical thing that came to my mind when I was thinking about this category. The the ISS room at this point, anyway, was right off the office. I was in there before, yeah. He Mrs. Bruns. Yep. She went for lunch or something, and De Guy came out, grabbed the the uh intercom from the oh, you know, in the office, and called Mike Hunt to the office.

Deffies. Hello. I'm looking for a friend of mine who's supposed to be there. Uh, what's his name? His name's Michael Hunt Mike, Mike, yes, Mike.

Just hang on a minute.

It's my cut in the parking lot.

And that's a real thing. I'm hoping that's not a Mandela effect, Chris. But I swear I fucking remember it. And that's hilarious to me. Off to you, Dongo.

Good segue, because I I was I'm gonna use an in-school suspension, which is the worst because you're not home and it's not an hour after school detention, it's all day just sitting in that room with Mrs. Burns.

She was nice, though. I thought it was.

She was a nice lady. Yeah, she was great, but you were fucking bored to death. It was boring. Oh man, was it just boring all day long, eight hours staring at the clock. Anywho, I got caught dead to rights for smoking in the boys' room.

Smoking in the boys' room.

Up with the rule. Everybody knows they're smoking out.

Dick Doumas caught me dead to rights. Um, you know how we there was the bathroom right by the gyms. You go in, you knock, you say cool as you walk in, so no one's doing them. And I can't remember if he he just caught me after the fact or if he actually caught me with smoke in hand. I can't remember. But uh Dick Doomas caught me, and he was a good guy, he was a good teacher. I liked him. Awesome. And I'm like, you got me. You know, he's like, Yep, I got you. And it was like, Yep, you know, you're in trouble. Yep, I got it. You know, did my crime, served the time, you know, all that kind of stuff. But uh it was it was fun, yeah.

Awesome. Good call, Dongo. And I just want to say this that uh Mr. Dumaze, I know you listen once in a while. Doumaze, yeah.

That's what I said. I said Dumas, it just I mixed his name up. Sorry. Mr.

Dumaze is a listener of the show, I believe. And yeah, yeah, I just would like you to know out there that Donald no longer smokes, so you're you did a good job.

It was New Year's Eve 2000. I was in uh Sigonella, Sicily in the Navy, and I said, I'm done smoking. All right, thank you, Mr. Dumais.

Nice one, Dongo.

All right, Kev. I think I'm gonna fit in well here at Dumbass and Dumbass. And Dumaze and Dumbass. I'm sorry, Mr. Dumaze. I'm sure you've never heard that one, but uh, so it's funny, you guys were talking about in-school suspension, and standard operating procedure for us was I'm gonna give you three days in school suspension. Fuck you. That's it. Three days out of school suspension. Thank you. I mean, right? I'm going fishing, playing hockey sack, drinking beers versus sitting in that room. I think I only got jammed up once. I had to hold my tongue because I wasn't gonna pass if I missed any more days. Uh because if you got out of school, it counted against days that you were present. So I had to yeah, I had to do the in-school suspension. I had a hard time, not not for lack of times, I was suspended, but I had a hard time remembering the reasons. I know we talked one about you know the scraping your pass and and on our way to the office stopping by to smoke a butt and then getting suspended from that. This was junior high, and I don't remember. Same kid, same buddy of mine, and we both got sent to the office. I have no recollection of what for.

I do not recall that. I I do not recall that. Doesn't ring a bell. Sorry, I have no recommendation of that. No, no, no idea.

I don't recall that transaction. You guys have any mouth recall any of that. No, I don't recall that at all. Excuse me. I have to ask, is is that your real hair?

But this was the pre God, Deaf Leopard days where where uh Joe Elliott had the rip jeans. Uh we we were doing that at that time. It was it was just becoming a thing, right? And so I just remember sitting in the office with my buddy, and the assistant principal walks in. This is previous to seeing him smoking a bong. Uh we didn't we didn't have our we didn't have our get out of jail free car yet. And he looks at both of us with our ripped jeans and he goes, You two think it's cool walking around here with your hammers hanging out?

Oh, so you were you were bringing those rips up north there, huh?

You were oh yeah, it was it was all the it was all the way.

Excuse me.

Your balls are showing, Bumblebee tuna.

Oh, I I don't even remember how we got there in the beginning, but then there was a complaint about the clothing, and I don't even know what happened after that. I just remembered just that was the first time that a that a school administrator spoke to me that frankly. Right, you know what I mean? It was just like, oh wow, okay, we're on a different level here, right? Um, but I do remember him sending us home, kicking us out of school, and on the way out, we realized that neither of us had transportation. And I don't know if you remember the combination bike locks that came with like a clear colored plastic, yep, with the with the cylinder, yeah, right? Yeah, four numbers. Yeah, I don't know if you guys know this. Um, those things were pretty fucking useless.

Oh, very wire covered.

Whatever the bicycle was chained to, he just yanked on it and that thing snapped in half. It was absolutely useless.

Yeah, so it was a metal or something. Yeah, yeah.

We did not steal bicycles. We knew whose bikes they were. They were friends of ours. We borrowed them and returned them afterwards. Oh, that was a nice idea anyway. But we yeah, so we just walked out the back door of the school, snapped a couple of bike locks, and then drove to his house, and I'm guessing probably got pretty high.

I was gonna go to class before I got high. Come on, y'all. Check it out. I could have cheated and I could have passed, but I got high. I'm taking it next semester, and I know who I highlight because I got high, because I got high, because I got high. Go to the next, go to the next, go to the next one.

So I don't know exactly what we did before and after. I just remember that there was a bit of a clothing issue. So, as a matter of fact, I think he might have sent us home to change, and we just never bothered going back.

Ah, boy. Too funny.

So that was that was and I'm sure I got suspended several other times, and I still don't remember what exactly for.

Oh man.

Maybe I got that block. They blur together. Yeah.

Too fucking funny.

Okay, Mark. All right. Well, it was back in the autumn of 76. There's a reason I remember it well. Okay. This was a I mean. I say kicked there.

Gotta tie it to kiss.

I've been suspended many a time. Detention was like a second home to me. But this is more of a group effort. And it wasn't really, I mean, it's really kind of shades of gray because this is in uh I was in junior high, I was in seventh grade, Robin was in eighth grade, and there was a bomb scare. And um Littleton being a very walkable community, very walkable for the most part. And we're like, they sent us down to Remick Park, and we're like, fuck this, we're not going back there. There's a bomb threat! I'm not going back there today. So about a third of us went home. So we just went home. I don't I don't recall what's day was. And uh, well, we all got administer we all got administrative detention for that. Yeah, I remember Robin screaming at some one of the teachers in the cafeteria. It's not fair. I mean, it was controversial, I'm telling you.

That's not fair, Mark. You're the only one of the four of us there that's in the fucking right, right? I wouldn't have gone back either, right?

Right. Yeah, I so I went home.

I'm like, you know, they didn't give you clear instructions. That's what they would say today. They didn't give you to the letter instructions of where you were supposed to muster and when you were supposed to return.

Right. Yeah. Or is there still a bomb there?

Right. Yes, I would also like to have some kind of written explanation as to why it's safe for me to go back in the building and speak with the fire chief and the police chief and a guarantee that my little ass isn't getting blown up.

I haven't seen any press conference of any kind. Yes.

People out there with their blazers. I wasn't really afraid, I just wanted to go home anyway, to be honest with you.

I mean, this is not the happens up there.

It was worth an extra hour, Mark. That's the complacency. The one time you go back in, then the thing's gonna touch off. So yeah.

Yeah, Marcus failed to mention that he was the one that called in the bomb threat.

All right. But did they ever catch the person that called it in, Mark?

Yeah, so yeah. I don't know. What's that?

Did they ever catch the person that called the bomb threat in?

I I don't think so. I don't think so. All right.

All right. That would be that would be a funny thing to listen to is if they have like back then they didn't have the technology, but now they do to play the recording of you know, someone like, hey, uh, there's a bomb in the you know, it's an emergency.

Please hang up and dial 911. If you know your party's extension, please dial it now. Press two to speak with a dispatcher or request an officer. Hold on.

Hello. Um delivered a message for me.

Hello?

Oh, man.

Exactly. And nowadays, fucking the school would be closed for a week. Right. You know?

Do you have Prince Albert in a can? Is your refrigerator run? Yeah.

You better let him out, Kevin.

You better catch it.

Yeah. All right. Nice, Mark. Number six to me, I believe. And this is a line that your parents used, you would never hear a parent use today. And I'm sure this is thousands and thousands because this PC fucking world. But this is one that's personal to me that won't make sense without the visual, because it's my mom or my dad yelling to me, you're gonna get one of these, and her snapping the belt like she's gonna whip me. Oh, yeah. But nowadays, if that happened, you know, if she did that to me, you know, when I'm at the park or whatever, it would a parent would call it in like how dare you discipline your child. Like back then, and I'm sorry, because I'm in complete agreement with Bill Burr here.

What do you think of parents now? How do you compare them to parents in the 70s?

Oh, it's just completely the kids have so much power, it's like ridiculous. Like half of these kids, I'm like, I look and I just have what happened to me, and I'm like looking at a kid and be like, this kid's about me to get punted across the grocery store, and it just never happens. They just they just don't get hit. And I think it's hurting your memory. Your momentum.

You're mad that children are not being uh this should be the threat of it.

Half of it was just look, it was just your dad was acting like he was gonna do it. He never did it, but your mother did. And because she was dumb, because she was a woman, it was like okay, because it's like, hey, you know, you let a girl beat you up, you know, you kind of felt emasculated. We had a rule, like I actually, a lot of the stuff that I look at from when I was a kid that actually kind of made sense in a way is now would now be considered like abuse, I guess.

And anyone out there, you know the email address, pta80H at gmail.com. Go ahead and email me. I still think that you should be able to discipline your child, although I'm a hypocrite because I certainly didn't do it with mine, but I wish you still could do that. Like it put a little fear in you and made you not do something again. And boy, believe me, when they hit you with a belt, no biggie, it's just a spanking. Like, go back to the frigging some of the old 60s shows and 50s shows and watch them. It's like you're gonna get a spanking, and that's all it is to me. Uh the cops would be called nowadays, and that's all I can think about it, right?

Health and human services pussy world, digging your house apart, but there is a direct result of why we have the shitty society that we have today, yeah. Because these kids were never, you know, and and I'm and again, like you said, it it's there's a line between discipline and abuse. Exactly. Right? But these kids don't have uh they don't kids look for boundaries, that's their job, and you don't give them any, and you end up with the shit that we've got now. Yeah, that's the yeah may maybe a spanking wasn't the best uh discipline that you could give, but letting the kid get away with fucking everything is not the answer either because there's no accountability. Again, how about a flick on that? But I probably could have used a couple more upside the head and I'd be in a better place than I am today.

Exactly. Well, I mean, like uh Gregory Trask from uh the 1800s on Dark Shadows would say, Your children need discipline, spare the road to come to Worthington Hall, exactly who was the running back for like Minnesota or something that was like pick a switch, Adrian uh Peterson.

Adrian Pearson, yeah.

I bet you the kid asked for it.

Yeah, but they crucified him.

Oh, yeah, he took a beating.

That's my fucking point. Yeah, yeah. Moss I go watch the Beverly Hillbillies. You know, Jethro or friggin' Ellie May did something wrong. Granny's getting the switch and he's taking him back to the shed.

God, I love Granny. Ray Ray Lewis kills people and he's a hero. You're gonna get to stack. Oh my god, get him out of here.

Yeah, yeah. No, a great running back, but I mean, yeah, kind of as running backs will do, they kind of fall off the cliff after a while, but oh dear God.

Unbelievable, brother.

Okay, dongo. All right, so my mother classically used to say, she used to say a lot of things, and some of them were quite racist, actually, which she was not a racist at all, but I'll I I digress from that. Anyways, uh, she used to say, I'll take you out back and shoot ya was her biggest thing, you know. Yeah, if you don't cut that out, I'll take you out back and shoot ya. But you know, the racist thing that my mother used to say was get your cotton picking hands off that. And I don't think she meant it in any racist way at all.

I wouldn't have taken it like that at all.

I was to do years old when I even thought that that was a fucking racist thing. Right, right, right. But that was probably a pretty common phrase for people in that era.

It still is. Look, watch the cartoons, Dongo.

Yeah, yeah.

Get your cotton picking it. Yeah, and no one thought about it like that. It just meant your stupid hands or whatever, any other word you could throw in there. It angers me. Great, right? It's an industry, yeah.

Take me out back and shoot you.

Yeah, that doesn't fly nowadays, no matter who you are. Right. Oh my dear Jesus.

Okay, Kev. For me, I mean, I could I I think you know, my old man in Salty might have kind of been similar in a lot of ways. And so he had he had many. Um the one that always sticks in my mind, it was four hours to my grandmother's house, and my dad did not like to stop the car. Once he was on the road, that was it. We're going until we get there. And being like three, four years old, I would often need to go to the bathroom.

Naturally.

And when I told him so, his reply was, I hope you have a rubber pocket.

All right.

So I have amazing bladder control today because at three, four years old, right? I learned how to hold it for four hours.

Right. Oh man.

But it was either that or, and I hope I don't walk on you, Mark, but it was also I'll give you something to cry about. Yes. Yes.

I I had that one too. Definitely. Unbelievable. Well, you're what now? Uh 55, Kev. 56? Well, you better have a rubber rubber pocket because that prostate's not going to last forever. Well, I can't do four hours anymore. I can barely do 40 minutes. Too funny.

And I don't have a rubber pocket.

Nice pick, Kev. All right, Brad Hairmark.

Well, before I get to my pick, I'd like to say, Kevin, I wish I could hold it for four hours because remember that famous play in the Ravens Patriots playoff game where and uh friggin'.

We're not gonna remember it, but go on.

Well, Brady threw it to Edelman, and Edelman hit Amendola for a touchdown.

Edelman in motion. Edelman takes the swing pass. Edelman's gonna throw. He didn't believe it open. Amendola comes down.

I couldn't get down to the bathroom at halftime. It was just too packed. And just before the play, I says, I I mean, I ran down and I mean I piddled probably for two minutes straight. It was so bad. Then the crowd erupted. Anyway, so this is I mean, I used to get threatened to be sent to reform school all the time. I'm gonna send you to reform school. Or I mean Tim Buck 2 or Japanchet or the funny farm. It was all basically you're getting out of here. You're driving me insane, you know?

And if you sell you to the gypsies.

So yeah, kind of the same thing. And uh and just on that note, I'm not gonna talk long about this, but uh Larry Fine graduated from reform school.

Boy, what does this room remind you of? The reform school. What a beautiful place.

Reminds me of the reformatory. Yeah, quite a shock. This makes me join. Yeah, it reminds me of the reform school.

You know, this is our first entree into society, and we find it very delightful. So different first party at the reform school.

In one of his episodes. And they don't call them reform schools anymore. I actually looked up best reform schools in New Hampshire. They don't call them that. It's something more PC, but uh yeah, I'll you know, being I I was terrified of reform school.

What did they do to us there? You know?

Tim, how about Tim Buck 2?

You you are going to Tim Buck 2 if it's the last thing I do.

You were afraid of the Buck 2, yeah. That's a place, so is Chipachet. It's a town in Rhode Island, I think. Yes, I look it up years later.

It's like, wow. So I don't know. I oh Tim Buck 2. Mum used that every other day. I know, but reform school's a little different, okay?

Yeah, that one would have scared me a little.

Yeah, reform school. I mean, they don't even call them that anymore.

It's the juvenile home.

Yeah. Yeah.

You're going to jail, basically. Juvie Hall. Juvie Hall, yeah, right? Orphanage. Yeah. Yeah. Nice one, brother. No one wants to hear that. That kid just got out of juvie. We're the number seven, correct? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 17 Brontosaurus.

Say, you ought to do something about that speech impediment.

Burger chop applesauce. What was that that Flintstone always ordered? That big rack of ribs, man. That looked good, huh?

They never said it was Brono ribs, I think.

But well, he had the Bronosaurus burger, but I don't know.

So he's they're cooking Dino. They're cooking their pets, I guess. All right. To number seven. This is something you did as a kid that was probably deadly. Well, I had to take this one because of how stupid I fucking realize it was. Back in the day, we you could go to Kmart. This isn't a joke either. Like nowadays it couldn't happen. But you could go to Kmart and buy a bow and arrow, right? And then they'd have a box of arrows, and some of them you could even buy with the very sharp tips. You'd get home, you'd string the bow, and you could shoot arrows at anything you wanted. And then a game we used to play on the Gamash Hillmark. That's our neighbors on Farmer Drive.

I didn't realize they had an actual edge. I mean, uh what what do you call it? The blade at the end there.

The tip. Perhaps play a little game called Just the Tip. Just for a second, just to see how it feels.

Yes. I mean, I'm sorry. Yes. They had sharp points. Just uh, but anyway, um, we would go stand on the hill. There'd be like four to six of us, however many people were there. But you all remember the circle saucer sleds, right? With the two handles you'd like sit Indian style on or crisscross applesauce. Sorry, everyone. Yeah, so sorry about that one. But you'd sit like, you know, crisscross applesauce, Indian style on it, and go down the hill, right? Yeah. So we would all have those, and this is mid-summer, and everyone would have one. One of us would take the bow and arrow and we'd pull it back. And shoot the arrow straight up into the sky as far as we could. And they weren't fucking wimpy bows. Like that thing went, you know, hundreds and hundreds of yards into the air. And then we would all just stand still and hold one of those saucer sleds over our head and to see if it would hit one of us. Mo, thank Jesus, they all landed in the the grass beside one of us. It never hit one of the the sleds. Would it go through it? If that would have hit probably sled. Not not only would have hit gone through it, it would have gone halfway through your fucking skull, through your brain, possibly into your esophagus, and killed you dead. Right. And we did it like it was just nothing, and no parents around, just like always, because we just were turnkey kids, you know. You just did your thing. You went out and played, you friggin' learned from your mistakes, but that would have been a real bad mistake if it hit any of us. Oh, yeah. Oh man, but think of that. And like I said, yes, brother, they had metal tips on them, and the weak ones were just like a rounded tip, but the other ones were you could have hunted with them, you could have killed a deer.

Well, that's what I was gonna ask you. Yeah.

I mean, they weren't the razor tips they have now, but they were still pretty fucking sharp. Yeah. Oh, imagine that shit.

Makes me wonder about the videos you see of the Middle Eastern wetterings where they where they fire the AK-47 straight up into the air. I know, right? Those bullets have to come down at a pretty good point, yeah, speed as well. I mean, does it does the lead just bounce off your head and burn you a little bit?

Or so I it you know, wind resistance, terminal velocity, all that stuff comes into play. Yeah, right. Well, what about the just normal guns? You know, um is a which I'm sure.

Which I'm sure the people doing it have thought through and done the math for.

But yes, the company.

Yeah. Many countries like to celebrate with airbound gunfire. So is that actually dangerous? Well, the best case scenario is that the person fires 90 degrees straight up. This way the bullet is slowed by gravity and air resistance, causing it to stop mid-air and fall back down to earth. But it doesn't fall point first. Instead, it constantly tumbles or falls on its side, reaching a terminal velocity of around 100 miles an hour. Now, this isn't really fast enough to penetrate your skin, let alone your skull. So does that mean it's safe? Well, no, because it's almost impossible to fire straight upwards, and even if you're a few degrees off, the bullet won't come to a stop before falling. Instead, it will continue on its normal parabola, keep spinning, and can reach speeds of well over 500 miles an hour. Now, this absolutely will kill you. In fact, it's more likely to. Because if it's falling from the sky, its most likely target is your head.

Yeah, the next count over.

How about that? But here you are. Once again, here you are still, but somehow, by the grace of God, as I say.

Okay, man. Unreal, stupid shit. Dungo off to you.

All right. So, as in many casts before, I have talked about how we like to play war. Yes, and we played war multiple times, and in the course of playing war, we always tried to increase the reality of it. We used uh fireworks a lot. I remember sometimes using, you know, like uh attacking a base with like they used to call I can't remember, they were called like Saturn missiles or something. It was a box of like 24 whistlers. Oh it's like you like that, and it was like the whistler, yeah, rocketing into a camp, and you know, and then throwing like M80s, like their grenades. You win wars, guts! I think AJ, I don't know if it was you. Somebody shot me with a Roman candle, yes, yeah at my house. I was wearing like a football jacket, you know, and like the school football jacket for the like nylon, and the Roman candle like got into the nylon and it was started on fire.

Oh, that wasn't me.

I shot you in our neighborhood with a bottle rocket, yes. I mean, we we would just do shit like that, like attack each other with fireworks and stuff. You and I like used BB guns at each other, yeah, point blank range and stuff. So yeah, just playing war with fireworks was was deadly, and I just want to an interesting like historical thing that I was thinking when I was uh going over this. I was like, man, what what kind of saved us was that you know paintball came into you know, like instead of using more and more shit that we were kind of trying to invent to play war with, they actually made a thing that you could shoot bang you dead kind of thing with a with a paintball gun. It was 1981 that paintball was invented. Wow, so it's right around 1981, and it was invented in Henneker, New Hampshire, which is pretty yeah, that's where that park is, Mark.

Probably that same park. It's right next to the cemetery.

I I mow which is interesting, and it was because of they used the Nell Spot 007 paint marker, which was originally used for marking trees and livestock, and then they started using like, hey, let's shoot each other with this.

Paintball did not start as a sport, it started as a tool for marking trees and cattle from a distance. In the 1960s and 70s, paintball markers were built for foresters and ranchers, not weekend warriors. They were practical, messy, and made for work. Then a strange question changed everything. Could a city person survive in the woods against someone raised outdoors? In 1981, Hayes Noel, Charles Gaines, and Bob Guernsey helped turn that debate into the first real paintball game in Henneker, New Hampshire. Players used marking pistols in a huge capture the flag match, and a work tool became a sport. From there, paintball spread fast. Woods ball, teams, tournaments, and speedball turned it into a full competitive scene. And that is why paintball still matters today. It turned a ranching and forestry tool into one of the most intense strategy games in the world.

So they were shooting cows. So that I think is what kind of you know, that like, hey, let's play paintball, which eventually got away from using shit like BB guns and fireworks and bows and arrows and things like that that we were gonna hurt each other with. No shit.

Now don't device you being tortured, you know, on uh you know, but Dongo, why did it take almost 10 years, right? If they came out in 81, why did it take 10 years before paintball got big, right? Like right they came out with that, they should have published it out on the news more. So hey, shooting each other with BBs and fucking fireworks.

Yeah, I had a buddy of mine that almost died from a BB gun wound. Yeah, you said that in my previous.

Up at the field in Littleton. Remember the field, AJ?

Of course I remember up near Jerky Field. I know exactly. Yeah, yep. But uh, Dongo, you're lucky that Roman Candle didn't just set you on fire.

Yeah, yeah, that's fucking insane. I should have kept the coat because it was pretty cool. Had like a burn, it was like a like a Guilford soccer coat or something with a big burn mark in the back.

Oh, yeah.

Mark would like that one.

I would, I would love that coat. Yeah, damn point. We're not gonna get into that today. This is a happy show. That's right.

Happy, happy joy, joy, happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, happy joy, joy, happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, happy joy, joy, happy, happy joy, joy, happy joy, happy, happy joy, joy.

Happy, happy, sorry, sorry.

All right, Kevin, that's off to you, man. Stimpy, you idiot.

Um, Donald, I just wanted to clarify that when you speak of Henneker, you don't have to say New Hampshire because there aren't any other ones on the planet.

I do not like Henneker either. That's crazy.

I like Henneker. Yeah, I like Henneker. It's just a nice little business there.

I worked in Henneker. It just wasn't low-pay, it just wasn't a good place.

You don't have to indict the whole town.

Exactly. It's not a bad town.

I know nice people.

My nephew Joey lives there.

See? See something good.

Yes, finally something good there.

But uh so you guys got some younger stuff. I think I already covered uh the younger deadly thing that I did, and that was um climbing on the side of the four-story building that had like a quarter inch of offset bricks and and climbing up the scaling the side of that like I was fucking Spider-Man at like three years old.

Hey, I am really surprised you're here.

Yeah, exactly. So I think I think we covered that one. So I'm gonna take a little different route here for the deadly experience. Um I one of my good buddies had a brother. His brother started hanging around with a guy that we did not like. I don't remember what escalated this situation, but I do remember that we were chasing them at high speeds down a double lane road in Portsmouth at about two o'clock in the morning. I knew full well that the individual had a handgun in his truck. This was known to us. Um yet I still sat up on the door frame of the open window of this Camaro at probably about 90 miles an hour and started beating on the passenger window of this truck, knowing that there was a loaded gun inside. I have no idea. I can't remember what started all of this. I just I can close my eyes and remember the streetlights going by and just like I don't know, they had wronged us. They our tribe had been threatened by whatever this guy did, and we were going to exact revenge whether it killed us. And it was probably the stupidest thing that I've ever done because obviously we got over whatever the insult was or or or whatever, but it it was it was kind of I look that's all the stupid shit I did. I look back at that and go, what the actual fuck was I thinking? What was I trying to prove? Um little side note that same Camaro, um, I was sitting in the passenger seat and we were all leaving a buddy's house in different vehicles to go somewhere. I was sitting in the passenger seat, I got out to do something and got in with somebody else. The Camaro took off up the hill, and at the top of the hill there was a T type intersection. Um by the time we caught up to said Camaro, um, the whole passenger side of the car was gone from the telephone pole. Somebody was coming from that intersection, the driver swerved, wiped out the passenger side of the Camaro. I mean, it literally happened like that. Got out of the car. 30 seconds later, we're at the top of the hill. He's fine. If I'd been sitting in that passenger seat, I would have been mud shaved.

Yeah, wow.

So yeah, and that was that would have been the third time that I almost died in that car.

Unbelievable.

We launched it over a brick wall, over a stone wall in between two trees once as well.

Jesus.

Yeah. So I was glad to see that car go.

Now when I was young boy at the A def. The greatest man alive.

I gotta send this before I send this to you, Mark. I gotta say two things to Kevin. First of all, um, does this have anything to do with your road rage problem? Could be.

I didn't know he had a problem.

Very well could be. I think we found the route. Unbelievable. All right, brother Mark, to you to wrap it up for number one. Or number seven, I'm sorry. Yes.

No, I mean, I I already used the us trying to jump human bodies on our bicycles, and that could have been pretty deadly. Um if you hit them to the right, you know, you swerve a little bit and land on the head. But I'm going with something that was uh only dangerous to oneself. And I learned to do this with the Aptworp gang up in Littleton. And uh we would sit there and huff friggin' not glue, but gasoline fumes. And we would sniff and sniff and sniff until we felt we had you know just the the right amount of brain cells killed, and then you'd get this incredible high for about, I don't know, twelve seconds and then end up with a migraine. But uh on on occasion, but I mean it just was the weirdest thing, and you can't tell me that wasn't possibly deadly to somebody.

That's stupid. Yeah, it's very stupid, and I will tell you that it didn't end in Littleton, so I think you might have had a little addiction to it for a while. I know because you continued that in Guilford.

In the garage long-term effects. I just I this is what happened one time. I sniffed it or huffed it, inhaled it, whatever you want to call it, and I walked away and I just blurted the cloudy day of number nine.

I mean, what the hell is that?

Mark, people do huff huffing became huge, like yeah at once.

I understand that, but I Huffe.

How come the whipped cream canisters are locked up?

That was a real problem in the restaurant industry.

Absolutely. I remember working at Beat Made Denny's. I don't know what year that closed, but yeah, but uh yeah, everyone would freaking go up to the nitrate or the whipped cream can.

You know, as a restaurant manager, it's like just get a nitrous for the for the employees, you know.

Let them you know, let them because you go you go back to top of dessert and the thing goes because all the nitrous is gone. And I think I told the story about the the time that I was going to buy, they made one where you could put cream in and it had a canister, it had it like like in your pellet guns, it had a yeah, cracker tank, and and I go to buy one for my aunt, and they're carting me at like fucking some kitchen store. I'm like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, You need to see my I ID to buy a whipped cream maker, which is oh, kids huff it. And I was like, Oh. Thank you for the ID. I'm giving you two of these now and another package of the but Mark, that reminds me of it. Have you guys watched The Wraith? The Wraith.

I did watch some of it. Oh, I love that movie.

There were two characters, Skank and Gutter Boy, in that, and they are constantly like drinking transmission fluid and huffing things. And it's worth the movie's, it's a great movie from that era, but it's worth it just to watch those two idiots huffing anything they can get their hands on.

Oh my god.

Isn't Brace character on uh sniffing glue?

Outer Outer Banks, isn't that the guy's name, the Wraith, the murderer there?

Well, Wraith is a term that's like a ghost or something like that.

That was his nickname or whatever. I don't know.

But uh yeah, so yeah, I I just don't think sniffing gas was probably a smart idea, but I'm sure according to NIDA, the National Institute of Drug Abuse, up to 200 Americans die each year due to inhalant abuse.

I mean, I'd one other thing. We used to on the Aminousic River back in the 70s, it was a footbridge going across, and I don't think it had been maintained in probably 88 years, and uh, we would walk across it, and uh, you know, you go down, yeah, it's probably not gonna be a good ending for you. It wasn't exactly a deep part of the river. So, but but you made it this is the great part of being the last person, although yeah, I I didn't think AJ or Donnie was gonna come up using a footbridge going across the Aminotic River, so it's probably safe.

Yeah, I think you're safe there, brother. I was also thinking of fear and loathing after you brought that up, Kevin, about the ether-soaked uh floor maps.

Oh, yeah. I I love that scenery they're just listing off everything that they had in the car.

We had two bags of grass, 75 pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered bladder acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers, also a quarter tequila, quarter rum, a case of beer, pint of raw ether, two dozen amounts. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

The salt shaker blow and oh, unbelievable. It had the makings for a good weekend. Awesome, boys. Well, I think that wraps it up, doesn't it?

Indeed it does, and uh what a fun episode, man.

I love just going back to the roots. That was you know, the shit we terrific, you know, just nostalgia, baby. That's what it's about, right? I mean, come on. Dongo, I thank you for being here with us. Good times, man. Good times. Kevin, thank you, Brother Mark.

Yeah, uh, that was a lot of fun. I mean, that I thought this was a fantastic idea for a topic, and it hit the nose, I think, or hit the nail in the head.

Fucking great episode, boys. And everyone out there, we thank you so much for listening. I'm gonna say it again and again, and I don't care. But please email us at pta80H at gmail.com. I was waiting for Kevin to say say it again. That's PTA.

Wait, where's that email address, AJ?

PTA80H at gmail.com. And everyone, thank you so much for listening. All the feedback. We love it. This is so much fucking fun. Thank you all.

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